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Old 07-19-2005, 11:45 PM   #1
Tang
definition of hybino

whats the definition of a hybino? ive seen hybinos that look like htbct and ive even seen some that look like bright albinos. so what traits make them hybinos?
 
Old 07-19-2005, 11:54 PM   #2
groovygeckos
Hybino is a Super Hypo Albino ! A Super Hypo Carrottail (Dominant/Co-Dom) & Albino (recessive) combination . could be a Tremper , Rainwater, or a Bell Albino
 
Old 07-20-2005, 01:40 AM   #3
DeVackHerps
are tangerine tremper albinos, hybinos? such as these..
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:04 AM   #4
Tang
si if i bred my hypo tangerine to my tremper, the hatchlings r hybinos?
 
Old 07-20-2005, 02:30 AM   #5
MONITORMIKE1
not unless your super hypo is het for albino. with the pairing you have, you will produce super hypos het for albino.Then you breed the babies back 2 gether and than you have a 1 in 4 chance of produceing hybinos.
 
Old 07-20-2005, 02:40 AM   #6
Herpcam
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVackHerps
are tangerine tremper albinos, hybinos? such as these..
Kyle,

Not quite. These geckos would have to be lacking their white portions, which on a normal (non-albino) gecko, would have been black. That would make them Hypo(melanistic) or Super Hypo(melanistic). Since you're stripping all the melanin away to make them albino, the black turns to white in albinos. In Hypos, the black also fades away, which would equate to the white bands in your albinos fading away gradually. So, for a gecko to be Hybino, it would have to have been a Hypo or Super Hypo if it were not albino.

To make these, you need to cross Albino with Hypo or Super Hypos that are het albino. So, starting with a plain albino and a plain Hypo or Super Hypo, you cross them the first year and you'll get offspring exhibiting various degrees of the hypomelanistic trait, since it is dominant(or co-dominant...still can't get it straight). These offspring will all be het for albino. The next year, you can breed these hypo/superhypo het albinos to another of the same or an albino and produce some hybinos. In at least some cases, you won't be positive you have them at first, because the white portions will slowly fade away as the black does with most hypos/superhypos.

This is an example of a hypo on the bottom (less than 10 body spots), and two super hypos, with zero body spots.


And, this is an example of a Hybino, taken from KelliH's gallery here on Fauna


You can see how there were some white body bands, but they have been overcome with orange. Also, there is no black on the tail, which you usually see on a Hypo/Superhypo. You'll also see Hybinos marketed as Sunglows (like from the Urban Gecko).
 
Old 07-20-2005, 09:06 AM   #7
Xavier
I'd just like ad that Hybinos are from Ray Hine's CT line line bred SHT isn't a co-dom/dom line. Some Hybino's as already stated take some time to have the white fade, please take the one below as an example of what you thought was a typical albino.
Its very easy to see its yellow orangish bands taking over its white as in other hypo/super hypos. Also take note in the Bald head which is common to CTs yet not in normal albinos which have patterned heads. You can also see the CT coming in although in this ones its not strong but this animal is only 2 months old.

The male below was produced byt he same father as the one above
 
Old 07-20-2005, 09:09 AM   #8
Xavier
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeVackHerps
are tangerine tremper albinos, hybinos? such as these..
Tang albinos aren't Hybinos, they tangs are only a line bred trait while Hybinos are Ray Hine SHCT Albinos.
 
Old 07-20-2005, 09:23 AM   #9
Gregg M
Here is the real definition of a hybino....
 

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