Jessee Fricker AKA tail shaker (BAD?)

Ok my first buying experience on here has not gone well. I paid him $88.00 plus the cost of Western Union (because I wanted to hurry and either put a deposit on the female he had or just pay for her outright which I did). This was on January 27th. I kept getting emails saying the weather was too bad and he would ship her in a day or so. I said that's ok as long as she is safe. Well I started looking elsewhere and found a couple of Cresteds where I work that I like and bought them and told him to just go ahead and refund my money, and if she was still available when the weather was better that I would still take her. He assured me that he would ship her for Saturday delivery last week. I get up Saturday morning and wait and wait. No Crested arrived. I called him and no answer and emailed him. I had to go to work that afternoon and was afraid she would be delivered and sit on the porch in the cold. She still didn't arrive. So I emailed him and told him I would like my refund the next day or I would leave negative feedback on the boards for him. He replied there was no need for that kind of talk and that I would be "more than compensated by the next evening". Well I still haven't been refunded nor have I heard anything else from him. Last night was the night I was supossed to be "compensated". Now I'm not a "hard core" breeder or anything. I was given a male Crested and started learning about them and think they are fun little critters to have and pretty easy to take care of. I do want to start breeding them. But now I am leary of buying on here because I don't personally know anyone I can trust. If anyone knows Jesse will you call him and tell him this is no way to treat people. I think I have been very understanding and patient, but now I just want my money back and be done with this whole ordeal. I have all the emails and PM's on this whole deal.

Jerry Foster

This was on January 27th. I kept getting emails saying the weather was too bad and he would ship her in a day or so. I said that's ok as long as she is safe. Well I started looking elsewhere and found a couple of Cresteds where I work that I like and bought them and told him to just go ahead and refund my money,

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I don't get it. The seller can't ship because of weather so you look and purchase elsewhere and now you want a refund? Evidently it wasn't okay with you or you would have waited. Seems to me you're owed a crested when the weather breaks, not a refund

I'd be interested in Jesse's explanation.

He kept telling me he was going to ship and it would be ok. I got tired of waiting and said I would take a refund, and that is now what I want. I work 7 days a week and have cancelled a class so I would be home or at work to get this Crested. Now I just want a refund and will buy later when the weather is warmer or buy locally. What's to understand? I told him if she is still available when the weather is better I will buy her.
It has been since January 27th since I paid for her. If the weather is that bad where he is then let me have my money back. It was not a deposit it was the full amount, and I don't want to wait months on it. He said he would ship last week and I have had no reason why he didn't. I don't feel good about this transaction and want to end it now.

Jerry

Jerry,

I am quite sure you would prefer to receive an animal that was alive and healthy, so I can understand the shipper waiting for a break in the weather. However, if he then informed you that he would ship on a certain day, and failed to do that you have grounds for a complaint. Good luck!


Bill

That is exactly what happened. And I had to go to work that day without knowing if she would arrive after I left or not. I called Jesse and also emailed him to let him know I was concerned about the shipment. Then I emailed him a couple of days ago asking about my refund and told him I didn't want to leave negative feedback on the board about him and he said there was no need for that and I would be more than compensated last night. Well I never heard from him or got compensated. He has my email and cell phone number. Now I just want to end the whole transaction.

Jerry

Jerry

Look, I'm not saying Jesse hasn't done anything wrong but in your original post it seemed you agreed to wait until the weather was better but still looked for another supplier, and purchased from another supplier. It appeared Jesse didn't give you a shipping date until after you asked for a refund. That's the part of this that I have a problem with.

As far as Jesse missing a Saturday delivery, and your skipping class as a result, that is wrong also.

No I didn't ask for a refund until after this past Saturday when she wasn't delivered. That's when I decided to try him again when the weather was better. He has offered to give me a discount and also to refund the cost of Western Union. I told him don't worry about the discount and if he would Western Union my refund we could call it even. It cost me 19.00 to WU and he said he could do it cheaper, and that's fine with me. I talked to him on the phone in the begining and he seems like a nice guy. I just don't understand why it has taken so long to ship her. I know there has been a good day to ship since the payment was made. It's been excuse after excuse: someone called out at work so he couldn't leave early, he was out of heat pack, the weather was bad, then he said he was shipping her last Friday for Sat delivery. And the only time I have heard from him is when I said I didn't want to leave bad feedback for him on the board. He then told me "there was no reason for that kind of talk" and I would be "more than compensated by the next evening". That was last night and I haven't heard anything from him since. It was only $88.00 but I work 7 days a week to have what I have and still have trouble making it from time to time. I just want to be treated fairly and hope I do the same for all the people I deal with.

Jerry

Why don't you email the seller and inform him of this thread, so he can reply.

Bill Phelps

I just sent him the link

Jerry

jfoster38122 said:

Post # 1
This was on January 27th. I kept getting emails saying the weather was too bad and he would ship her in a day or so. I said that's ok as long as she is safe. Well I started looking elsewhere and found a couple of Cresteds where I work that I like and bought them and told him to just go ahead and refund my money, and if she was still available when the weather was better that I would still take her. He assured me that he would ship her for Saturday delivery last week. I get up Saturday morning and wait and wait. No Crested arrived.

Post # 7
No I didn't ask for a refund until after this past Saturday when she wasn't delivered. That's when I decided to try him again when the weather was better.

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Your story is a little inconsistent.. It is very cold across the United States at the moment.. I've got an adult het albino female boa that is paid in full but I am not demanding that she be shipped immediately.. Buying live animals during the winter comes with an inconvenience, there are small gaps (if any at all) of time that animals can be shipped safely. You made your payment on the 27th which was a Saturday, within the following few days you purchased elsewhere.. I don't know why you agreed to wait for weather when you had no intentions on giving it a shot. In your first post you mentioned that you found something else and would like a refund, it was then that he promised to ship the animal for Saturday delivery, the first Saturday after you made the payment. You seem a little quick on the gun, rushed payment, didn't wait for weather like agreed and bought different animals. If the guy responded to you, give him some time to make good.. I've promised animals on a shipment date and missed it in the past, things happen.. Give him some time to explain before you try to hang him.

Posting the emails between the two of you would be a good thing as well..

No need for that sort of talk, Jerry. You will be more then compensated by tomorrow evening.


> From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
> To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: yellow Crested
> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:10:27 -0600
>
> jesse fricker wrote:
>> Sorry Jerry,
>> You are right, this is apparently not the best time of year to be shipping herps. I can't apologize enough. I have never had an order go wrong like this before. I will refund your money to you immediately. Just so you know, I never intended to screw you. I don't except excuses from my employees or anyone else for that matter so it is hard for me to give them, but on top of everything else that has happened this week, we had a bad ice storm and it knocked the power out here unitl about an hour ago. I don't expect you to accept that, I certainly wouldn't, but that is truely what happened. I will be giving you a full refund, including western union charges (please let me know what that cost you) immediately. How would you like that. I can send a money order, cashiers check, western union or direct wire transfer, its up to you. Just give me an amount, and I will make good. Again, I apologize.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Jesse
>>
>>
>>> From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>> To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:27:53 -0600
>>>
>>> jesse fricker wrote:
>>>> hey Jerry,
>>>> I called and left a message for you at around2:00 pm today. I hope it was the right number. When I called I got an answering machine for a guy named John. Anyway, I called because apparently with our recenct cold snap ( its been like spring up here until last week) all the stores up here are out of the hot packs that I use for shipping. All that they have for me are the 7 hour packs and I usually use the 12 hour packs. I have a special order in for the 12 hour packs but they wont be in until tomorrow morning. I get off at around 4:00 today and I will try a few other suppliers but if I can't find them, will you be able to receive shipment on Saturday morning and, if so, where? Again, I apologize and I will be including a $10 partial refund with the shipment if I can't find the right packs and get this gecko out to you today.
>>>>
>>>> Jesse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:03:14 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jesse,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like we may get some ice tonight. Please give me a call when you can
>>>>> and touch base with me. I can call you if you have to pay for long
>>>>> distance <I have unlimited>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>> Original Message:
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> From: jesse fricker [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:31:13 -0500
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jerry,
>>>>> I fortunately, I won't be shippinig the gecko today. I left work early
>>>>> so I could get her out by six but I don't feel comfortable shipping her in
>>>>> this weather. We got a pretty bad snow storm right now and the last time I
>>>>> shipped in weather like this, my animals spent the night in a hanger in
>>>>> Allentown for a day and a half. I put your number in my phone and I will
>>>>> give you a call tomorrow. Once again, I apologize and I will make every
>>>>> effort I can to get her out tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jesse
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> >Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>> >To: [email protected]
>>>>> >Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:29:17 -0500
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Hi Jesse,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Do you think she will ship today? I cancelled my class for tomorrow so I
>>>>> >will be here to receive her.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Jerry
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Original Message:
>>>>> >-----------------
>>>>> >From: jesse fricker [email protected]
>>>>> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:57:20 -0500
>>>>> >To: [email protected]
>>>>> >Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Hey Jerry, It doesn't look like I'll be able to make it to the shipper
>>>>> >before 6:00 today. One of my guys called out so it looks like its going to
>>>>> >be a long day. There is a possibility of her shipping today but if not,
>>>>> >definately tomorrow. I'll let you know either way.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Jesse
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:22:03 -0600
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>thats alright. I can't imagine trying to wait until I got off of work to
>>>>> > >>open a package that had a new herp in it. Plus, you want to make sure
>>>>> >she
>>>>> > >>is doing ok as soon as she gets there. She will be in transit for no
>>>>> >more
>>>>> > >>then 18 hours so Im sure she'll be fine but its still best to check. Ill
>>>>> > >>let you know as soon as she ships.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>Jesse
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:08:51 -0600
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>Ok. I got the money and I removed the ad. There was a little confusion
>>>>> > >>>>at Western Union. I thought you were only sending me a $20 deposit.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>I will e-mail you the tracking number as soon as she ships.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>I am going to ship her in a clear container inside of the box so if
>>>>> >you
>>>>> > >>>>want to take a look at her at work that shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>I'll talk to you soon.
>>>>> > >>>>Jesse
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>>>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:40:06 -0600
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>Yes I have had quite a bit of experience shipping cresties and quite
>>>>> >a
>>>>> > >>>>>>bit of experience receiving them also. She will be shipped overnight
>>>>> > >>>>>>with a warm pack. I don't drop off any animals until the daily
>>>>> > >>>>>>deadline for overnight shipping so they don't spend any more time in
>>>>> > >>>>>>transit then necessary.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>Quaranting is up to you, but I assure you that she is clean and
>>>>> > >>>>>>healthy. She has lived by herself since I received her as a
>>>>> >hatchling.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>You will definately want to watch how the male responds to her when
>>>>> > >>>>>>you introduce her. Its best to have a secondary tank handy in case
>>>>> >its
>>>>> > >>>>>>not love at first sight. I usually introduce the male into the
>>>>> >females
>>>>> > >>>>>>cage. I find that the males are less likely to be aggressive and
>>>>> >more
>>>>> > >>>>>>likely to accept her presence that way.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>Once I get that confirmation number I will mark her as sold and
>>>>> >remove
>>>>> > >>>>>>the ad from the classifieds.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>> > >>>>>>Jesse
>>>>> > >>>>>>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:43:28 -0600
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>For Pay Pal you only need my email address, which, obviously you
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>have. For western union you will need my name and address:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Jesse J. Fricker
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>6142 Furlong Ct
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Slatington PA 18080
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>If you go with the western union, the money will be here within an
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>hour and I can mark her as sold right away. Just email the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>confirmation number that they give you.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Jesse
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Ps. - You wont be dissappointed. She is truely one of the
>>>>> >prettiest
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>cresteds I have ever had.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:03:20 -0600
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>paypal is fine. Western Union would be better (quicker) but
>>>>> >either
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>way works.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>To: jesse fricker <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 06:02:38 -0600
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>jesse fricker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>$20 deposit will hold her for a week.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Jerry Foster <[email protected]>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: yellow Crested
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:27:51 -0600
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey man I want her. How much would it take to hold her for a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>week?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Foster
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >

>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>How do I pay you via Paypal?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Jerry
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Hi Jesse,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>What information do I need to either Paypal or Western Union you
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>the deposit? I have never done Western Union before.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Thanx
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Jerry
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>_________________________________________________________________
>>>>>

>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Hey Jesse,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>I'm going to go do a Western Union and will be back in just a
>>>>> >little
>>>>> > >>>>>>>bit and I'll email you the confirmation number. Please don't be
>>>>> > >>>>>>>offended, but I have to ask if you have had much experience
>>>>> >shipping
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Cresties. I just want to make sure she is safe. My plan is to have
>>>>> > >>>>>>>her shipped to my work and then I will bring her home that
>>>>> >afternoon.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Can I put her with the male I have when I bring her home or do I
>>>>> >need
>>>>> > >>>>>>>to quarentine her for a month? Should I watch for fighting and
>>>>> >remove
>>>>> > >>>>>>>her if it happens? Sorry for so many questions. Any way I don't
>>>>> > >>>>>>>remember if I gave you the shipping address but here it is:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Memphis World Production Center
>>>>> > >>>>>>>c/o Jerry Foster
>>>>> > >>>>>>>3041 Millbranch
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Memphis, TN 38116
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>One more thing, should I open the box when I get it at work to
>>>>> >check
>>>>> > >>>>>>>on her or just wait until I get home?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Thanx so much
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>Jerry Foster
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>_________________________________________________________________

>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>Hey man here is the confirmation number:
>>>>> > >>>>>926-324-4057
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>If you want you can call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>Thanx man
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>Jerry
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>

>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>Sorry bout that. Guess I'm impatient LOL I will let you know how she
>>>>> > >>>arrived and is doing later in the week.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>Jerry
>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >I took the picture to work yesterday <I work 7 days a week> and showed
>>>>> >them
>>>>> > >Mr Ballzack's "mail order bride". I work at FedEx M-F and at Petco on the
>>>>> > >weekends. Mr. Ballzack was given to me by a girl at work at Petco last
>>>>> > >Sunday.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Jerry
>>>>> >

>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hey Jesse,
>>>
>>> I haven't heard from you with a tracking number. I called FedEx this morning also and they don't have a record of a packing shipping to me. How was she shipped? If she hasn't shipped yet I think I would like to get my money back and just go buy 3 juvies at Petco where I work. Maybe this is not the best time of the year to be shipping. It's not fault of yours just bad timing. Please call me before 2 pm today and let me know how I will get my refund. I am going to buy 3 juvies at work today when I go in and will not have room for the female you have when I do so. My number is xxx-xxx-xxxx
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>>
>>> Jerry Foster
>>

>>
Hi Jesse,

Please refund me by this afternoon. I don't want to leave you negative feedback on any forums, but it's been 4 days now since the last email.

Jerry Foster

Anyone else have a hard time putting that in chronological order? From Jesse's responses, I'm sure you won't have a problem getting your refund.. It's been 2 days since the last email, give Jesse some time to respond. IMO you are lucky you are getting a full refund including western union fees since the animal was paid for and there was no negligence on Jesse's part. IMO it is bad form to do business this way, to commit to a buy and then back out because you found something elsewhere..

Maybe you are right Joseph. I have never bought an animal in this manner. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I just got scared that I may be getting ripped off. Like I said I don't know anyone on here. I'm not out to get Jesse. I found one thread about him in a sale and it was positive. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I know people get their friends to post on here giving them positive reviews so they look good and then take people's money. I don't care if Jesse refunds the money for using Western Union. I decided to do that since it was the fastest way to get him the money. All I'm asking for is the $88.00 I paid for the Crested.

Jerry

Jerry, you need to understand that the low temps has temporarily halted shipping reptiles safely. the safety of that crested gecko is more important than you wanting that lizard delivered on a certain day. be patient and wait until it warms up alittle. backing out of a deal like that does not look good.

I agree with the others. There's no point in shipping in the current temps. The safety of the animal is more important, as Ed said, than your getting it on a certain date.

Ok Dennis, I will do that.

Jerry

Jerry, in what part of the country is Jesse located? Your local temps seem to be borderline acceptable according to weather .com - but that doesn't mean anything about his. I have told customers that I am unwilling to ship do to MY local temps, and I know that conditions in many other areas are not favorable. For the record, shipping for a Saturday delivery during the winter is foolhardy and just asking for problems...the slightest delay, and you have to wait 2 extra days to get your animal.

Slatington PA 18080