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0.0.31 Oregon red spotted garters all have been born now!

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Hello everyone. I have 31 cb babies available. Three completely unrelated clutched. 0.0.4 from my youngest female were born first and are already starting to show some amazing coloration feeding on nightcrawler pieces and slices of garter friendly fish in a plate, I will be offering sented pink parts to them today. Yesterday I had 0.0.7 from my creamsicle female and it looks like at least 2 will have her beautiful light cream orange coloration. And 0.0.20 from my huge female alpha. Once all the new ones start feeding and show some of their true coloration I will sort out the potential males from females and have unrelated pairs available. I would like to establish a contact list of all interested parties so in about 2-3 weeks they will be ready to ship. I will also be parting with a young adult male. My creamsicle adult female and my huge wild caught LTC female I call alpha. She is over 50" and possibly a record breaker in size. Once they are all established I will post individual pictures. Standard quality babies will be $200 plus shipping high reds will be $250 and any that show the cream coloration will be priced at $400.
 

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here is a few more pics.

The picture of the group is of the 20 just born from my alpha female, along with the 4 that were born to my young adult female a couple weeks back, you can see in just a couple weeks how dramatic the color starts to develop compared to the newborns who have yet to show there true colors. There is a comparison of my creamsicle next to my alpha female. Alpha is just a standard coloration and you can see the dramatic difference in the lightness on creamsicle, also please note the picture it taken through plastic and they are both due to she's soon. The last pic is of 1 of the 7 from creamsicle not the best picture and her color hasn't even begun to show but I can tell she will have the creamy orange coloration of mom. Please feel free to ask any questions. I'll respond as soon as I can.

Thanks!
 

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They’re all beautiful! What color are the dorsal stripes of the adults? White? I know they can be yellow or blue too.


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A little better picture of alpha with creamsicle still pre shed.

A little better picture of alpha with creamsicle still pre shed.
 

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Care to show a straight comparison from what you're calling a creamsicle to a normal in your eyes? I'm actually curious as I have 2 blue phase and several females similar to your creamsicle as far as I can tell. I only have a few really hard red males. They seem to be more rare in my collection. I'm genuinely curious.
 
I will take a good picture as soon as she sheds next to several shades of red. Creamsicle is her name. Her clutch produces various reds oranges and also her color a light creamy orange. My other females produce the various reds oranges but not the light orange that creamsicle has. I don't know the specifics of how her gene is expressed only that she will produce the light orange with a red/normal male. She is very pretty my favorite personally.
 
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There is no such thing as a "creamsicle" morph in Oregon Red Spotted. It's simply polymorphism. Marketing it as anything else is misleading
 
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^. I was curious also as to the inference of a “creamsicle” red spotted (t.s. concinnus) as well. I know about the blue phase red spotted however I agree that this is mere polymorphism and polyphasic and dimorphism at work. Not to mention the possibility of intergrade differences affecting coloration and the lack thereof. In any case, congrats on the huge litter! There does in ball pythons exist what’s known as a “dreamsicle”. The combination of a lavender albino X piebald.
 
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I only averaged 13 babies a litter on my end. Seems to be about where I stand.

I honestly don't even know if my blue phase females are genetic yet. They were wild caught by me after weeks in Oregon. I bred them to a standard Male and I'll be holding back offspring to see if it's truly genetic or just a fluke that happens. I'll try to get some good pictures. One has literally no red to be seen and the other has almost a faint whitish pink to a few side spots. Both heads are blue with no red. They are my prized Oregon's. I was actually sad I didn't have any with the striking red heads I see in some pictures. I love that look.
 
Like I said I know nothing of the genetics. only that her clutches and only hers produce some offspring that are dramaticly lighter in coloration "creamsicle" is just the name I gave her. I never called it a morph only stated that only she will produce babies that are her coloration. And personally I find her coloration the most attractive out of hundreds seen in person as well as photos of others collections including the blues. I am curious as to how the babies would appear if bred with a blue and her. Then select the creamy orange offspring to back cross. Maybe for some light baby blues.
 
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