For Sale 1.1 Eastern Herman Tortoises

[SouthernDragons]

I have for sale a 1.1 pair of Eastern Herman Tortoises. (T. h. boettgeri). I hand picked this pair from a large group.
They are feeding on spring mix and romaine lettuce.
Active, heavy, and alert.
I'm asking $400 plus shipping.
I accept: Paypal/money orders
Shipping is Fedex Priority Overnight. I guarantee live arrival.
Please email me if you have any questions: [email protected]

Pictures are of the actual available.

 

[AnimalMan1981]

Pm me about shipping info please

 

[chongorojo]

Too late my friend, they are already running around me farm lol

 

[AnimalMan1981]

Lol how funny......people should update their ads when sold

 

[TylerStewart]

Which one do we 'think' is the female?

 

[chongorojo]

I'm not really sure but I think it's the one that's on the bottom of the pile, at least that's how I think tortoises breed?

 

[TylerStewart]

Well the larger one is definitely male, and I'd put the smaller one at about 90% male, but if you are both confident that it's a pair, more power to you. Sounds like the transaction is done already, anyways.

A tortoise mounting another tortoise is obviously not a way to determine sex. Males mount males all the time, females mount males, females mount females, etc.

 

[Shaun Roberson]

Which one do we 'think' is the female?

In plastron pic, you can see the one on the left's tail is curled around to the right and is certainly male; it's hard to make out the one on the right, but I think you can see its (short) tail tip on the left side(?)

...smaller one...

Where do you think the tail tip is?

 

[TylerStewart]

Correct, but that's not that short of a tail, and it's only about a 5" animal. Hermanns commonly look like females until they are about 3.5-4" length. I have a dozen here that I'm undecided on their sex at 4" size, but that one in the pic would definitely be sold as a male if it was in my hands.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've got about 60 adult hermanns here. I'd bet good money that that animal looks a lot more "male" in a year. Not my deal, doesn't affect me.

 

[Shaun Roberson]

Just to clarify, these are what we are seeing as the tail lengths?

You're probably right - the base thickness makes it seem much longer than the other by comparison than it really is.

 

[TylerStewart]

Correct. In a mature 7-8-9" hermanns female, the tail will rarely extend beyond the plastron (bottom shell) at all from an angle like this. If it is extending past it at this (still relatively small) size, it's almost certainly male, with much more tail growth to come in the next year.

 

[chongorojo]

I was trying to be funny... I guess I missed the mark. Yes its possible its a male, however I really doubt it considering they both xpressed for me under the hose. But as with all, time will tell.

 

[Shaun Roberson]

I was trying to be funny... I guess I missed the mark. Yes its possible its a male, however I really doubt it considering they both xpressed for me under the hose. But as with all, time will tell.

That would be impressive if you got them to mate while holding both of them.