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100% het to 66% possible het

Jason Thurber said:
What I'm asking is what chance (percentage) would the offspring of the said parents have of being hets.
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50% (if one of the parents is a 100% het)
 
Well if the 66% proved out to be a het indeed, you would have 1/4 visual morph, 1/2 hets, and 1/4 normals which would make all the hets or normal appearing snakes to be 66% het again.
If the 66% het didn't prove out, you would get all 50% possible het babies or 1/2 being het and 1/2 not
 
Jason,

I dont think you understand. 66% possible het just means the animal has a chance of being a het. That snake is either a normal or a het. There is no way of knowing for sure until you breed it out.

If the 66% het animal proves to be a normal then breeding it to a het would result in all of the babies being possible hets. Statistical probabilities say each egg would have a 50% chance of being het and a 50% chance of being a normal. And again, there is no way to tell which babies are het and which are normals until you breed them out.

Now if the 66% het animal proves to be a het then statistical probability says breeding it to another het would result in the of each egg having a 25% chance of being the morph the snakes are het for, a 50% chance of being het and a 25% chance of being normals. Again, you will not be able to tell which are hets and which are normals until you breed them out.
 
On a personal note, the whole 50% and 66% thing has always been nothing but a load of crap to me because we are not talking absolutes. We are talking statistical possibilities.

A snake is either a het or it is a possible het. Throw the 50% and 66% out the window. It is garbage in my opinion.
 
Ok Jake, I got three possible het male Pieds for sale right now. $50 plus shipping for all three.
 
Animal exhibiting the trait x normal = 100 het

Animal exhibiting the trait x 100% het = 2 exhibiting the trait and 2 100% hets

100% het x 100% het = 1 exhibiting the trait and 3 with a 66% possibility of carrying the trait (and a 66% chance is better than a 50%, so it does matter)

I could go on and on. I am and have been familiar with the basics of genetics since the albino burm craze that started all the hoopla.
My question is being misunderstood.

When an animal that is a 100% het for whatever is bred to another animal that is has a 66% chance of being a het (if it was proven out, it wouldn't be a 66% possible het and I wouldn't refer to it as one) and only normal looking offspring are produced, what is the chance (or percentage of the possibility) of those offspring being hets. It would be at least a 50%, due to the fact that one of the parents is a 100% het.
 
Are you saying basically if you breed 2 100% hets together and get no morphs, only normals? That would be saying the Ball gods are not looking kindly on you lol
 
Jason Thurber said:
Animal exhibiting the trait x normal = 100 het

Animal exhibiting the trait x 100% het = 2 exhibiting the trait and 2 100% hets

100% het x 100% het = 1 exhibiting the trait and 3 with a 66% possibility of carrying the trait (and a 66% chance is better than a 50%, so it does matter)

I could go on and on. I am and have been familiar with the basics of genetics since the albino burm craze that started all the hoopla.
My question is being misunderstood.

When an animal that is a 100% het for whatever is bred to another animal that is has a 66% chance of being a het (if it was proven out, it wouldn't be a 66% possible het and I wouldn't refer to it as one) and only normal looking offspring are produced, what is the chance (or percentage of the possibility) of those offspring being hets. It would be at least a 50%, due to the fact that one of the parents is a 100% het.
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50% POSSIBLE hets.
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
The others said it earlier in the thread though. :) not me by any means!

Sammy Specifically! *edit* wait... and jake... if i forgot anyone else... sorry! LOL
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Yes, I know....Pretty much everyone but shrap, who dispelled the myth of possible hets having better or worse odds of being hets, said 50.
I was being facetious. I'm sorry about that. I do appreciate everybody's effort.
 
Jason Thurber said:
Yes, I know....Pretty much everyone but shrap, who dispelled the myth of possible hets having better or worse odds of being hets, said 50.
I was being facetious. I'm sorry about that. I do appreciate everybody's effort.
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I suggest you re-read my post. I did say they had a 50% chance of being a hets if you breed a het to a normal. Allow me to quote myself.

If the 66% het animal proves to be a normal then breeding it to a het would result in all of the babies being possible hets. Statistical probabilities say each egg would have a 50% chance of being het and a 50% chance of being a normal.
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What a way to treat people that are just trying to help you....
 
To put it in what to me is simpler terms, it depends on what the clutch actually produces.

If there is no visual produced by the breeding then all the offspring will be 50% hets because you cannot assume the 66% het parent to be carrying the gene. It would be treated as a het x normal breeding.

If there is a visual produced in the clutch then the 66% het parent is proven to be het, therefore all normal appearing offspring will be 66% hets because it was actually a het x het breeding.
 
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