450 Million Hollow Points Ordered

[Docglock]

And to add....357 Sig is EXPENSIVE. Several agencies use it though (for whatever reason). Oklahoma Highway Patrol uses it. Several agencies use .40 cal, others use 9mm.

 

[Metachrosis]

You will soon enough .........

 

[Docglock]

You will soon enough .........

That's what I'm afraid of!

 

[Focal]

It's a good thing I work for DHS

BTW, SSA has Special Agents that are armed, appx 300 I think.

Honestly, 90% of the time, when I went to the range, I used hollow points.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Lucilles food comment is a serious consideration. People who CAN grow food for themselves, should, people who have the time for even a small amount of self sustainability should get on the ball.

Big companies like Monsanto are NOT the answer to our worldly food issues and many countries have flat out denied their product. Its disgusting that this stuff is even acceptable as food.

 

[WebSlave]

If anyone thinks that growing your own food is going to be easy, and you are merely stocking up the supplies to do so when you NEED it, you are likely in for a seriously rude awakening when you find out that it's not nearly as easy to farm as you might hope.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

If anyone thinks that growing your own food is going to be easy, and you are merely stocking up the supplies to do so when you NEED it, you are likely in for a seriously rude awakening when you find out that it's not nearly as easy to farm as you might hope.

Really? Because we are doing it currently... Its very enjoyable work!

 

[WebSlave]

It's a good thing I work for DHS

BTW, SSA has Special Agents that are armed, appx 300 I think.

Honestly, 90% of the time, when I went to the range, I used hollow points.

Well the question I have in mind is WHY in the world SSA would have any NEED to have armed special agents?

And I agree, I tended to practice with the ammunition I would be shooting. But I'm not buying 450 million of them where the price difference would become a substantial amount of money.

 

[Lucille]

Really? Because we are doing it currently... Its very enjoyable work!

I moved to my little home last year and am going to put in a square foot gardening type garden, only about 15 feet by 5 feet, and in another garden I have blackberries growing already, planted when I first moved in.
I have to admit that my larger garden at my old house was becoming more than I could handle, but what I am planning now would be a perfect way to supplement (but not be self sufficient).
I think I'm going to do more food storage, things like corn are cheap when purchased dried, and growing corn and other grains takes more space than what I have.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

I moved to my little home last year and am going to put in a square foot gardening type garden, only about 15 feet by 5 feet, and in another garden I have blackberries growing already, planted when I first moved in.
I have to admit that my larger garden at my old house was becoming more than I could handle, but what I am planning now would be a perfect way to supplement (but not be self sufficient).
I think I'm going to do more food storage, things like corn are cheap when purchased dried, and growing corn and other grains takes more space than what I have.

I should note, im not talking about being 100% SELF sustaining, but environmentally sustainable. They are different things entirely. I could not do a 100% self sustainable farming job, as that would be a mighty intense amount of work that would also require some major equipment. Just living more or less OFF dependancy of a global food market, and work in a much more local market. Supporting eachother. Like we are building up now, in my area Im making lots of great farming friends, which is wonderful!!

But! Lucille, Im glad, thats pretty cool!! We barter and trade. Currently we have a flock of about 33 chickens, and a small garden that supports up to six people during these summer months, thus far. The chickens are giving us anywhere from a dozen or more eggs a day, which we sell to make up for feed, and give to family/friends. I traded eggs lately, too for home grown garlic that should last us several months. We started this venture this year and has always been a big dream of mine. This is the kind of work I personally thrive in! When we buy our own home in the near future Im also going to raise goats, and plant food crops for the birds to remove my need to buy grain entirely.

I will not be growing corn, its an intense crop that needs a LOT of ground work in place if you really want it to be successful!, mainly foods i can sell and barter with to other farmers who choose not to work with the animals I do. Our birds are for meat and eggs, and we will actually be buying some broilers to raise up as well. I wanted to do turkeys this year, but decided to wait for next spring.

 

[Docglock]

And I agree, I tended to practice with the ammunition I would be shooting. But I'm not buying 450 million of them where the price difference would become a substantial amount of money.

It's the government cost doesn't matter. It's your money that is buying their ammo!

 

[Focal]

This sounds like a Use it or Lose it deal. Every part of the government that receives funding during a fiscal year, will approach their deadline and will face a position of spending every bit of leftovers or they will lose it the following year. If there is $500k left in funds, they will buy anything to spend that amount or they may not receive that $500k leftover next year. I've seen this a lot and have even been told to spend it. Whether its new laptops, electronics, supplies or even ammunition?

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Wow Nick... No wonder our taxes never go down. Lots of towns do this too, its kind of lame.

 

[Metachrosis]

Add another 200 Million rounds to the tab

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-200-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

 

[Focal]

Wow Nick... No wonder our taxes never go down. Lots of towns do this too, its kind of lame.

Yup. I think it's called "spend down."

 

[Metachrosis]

add another 200,000 rounds to the list

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-200000-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

 

[Focal]

add another 200,000 rounds to the list

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-buys-200000-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

No offense, but that article reeks of ignorance. I actually work with the MLEA for the USCG. There is no "stock piling" going on at this facility. Many, many LEO's are trained at this facility annually and yes, they go through a large amount of rounds. If we are to be protected by LEO's, should they not be properly trained with firearms? Lets say 400 cadets graduated this year, that would 500 rounds per person, not counting any of the instructors or their need to practice. These guys must qualify to carry a firearm and how else can they do this without going to the range?

 

[Focal]

The bullets are to be delivered to a training site in North Charleston, South Carolina, which “specializes in Maritime Law Enforcement and Port Security Training. Basic and advanced training programs are conducted in concert with the U.S. Coast Guard Maritime Law Enforcement Academy, the U.S. Courts Probation and Pretrial Services Training Academy, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Training Academy, the Customs and Border Protection Field Operations Academy, and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.”

Honestly, does this sound like a facility that would benefit from "stockpiling" a measily 200K? They keep mentioning training. What do you think they are training on? Call of Duty?

I can understand certain questions being asked, but this one makes no sense. The article continues to repeat that the governement is stockpiling, but each branch is funded seperately and all orders are routed through a supply department. I bet you a million dollars the president isn't whispering in the ears of the bottom feeders that pull the numbers required to supply the field.

Take a minute to do the math, 200000 rounds for $45000, right? That's about 4.5 rounds PER DOLLAR. There are several firearm owners right in this thread. Can any of you get rounds this cheap? The governement usually pays more than the public on everything they buy. Should they just start buying rounds by the box? I'm sure that would stretch our tax dollars.

 

[Focal]

Well the question I have in mind is WHY in the world SSA would have any NEED to have armed special agents?

And I agree, I tended to practice with the ammunition I would be shooting. But I'm not buying 450 million of them where the price difference would become a substantial amount of money.

Sorry, I missed this question.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-does-social-security-174-000-bullets-070710918.html

Edit: Never mind, just realized it was answered above. But yes, they carry out search warrants, arrests, and investigations.

 

[Metachrosis]

Five for You and Five for Me

http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/02/07/homeland-security-owns-5-bullets-per-american/