In the thread started by Stardust (http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73508) that got pretty much out of hand in a hurry, she (Rozann Bruyn) took it upon herself to post something that Wes Pollock sent to her that was an email that came from me sometime in the past. When I saw that Rozann had posted this "pass through message" from Wes, I immediately deleted it without bothering to read it. I felt it was not proper for Wes to further interface with this site after being banned, and that any such correspondence, without prior approval, should not be allowed to take place.
Later, in the HELL forum of all places, I heard that apparently that email that Wes took the liberty of making public, was being passed around the web and some said they felt it was damaging to me. With that in mind, I asked someone to please send it to me so I could see what I was up against. The following is what was sent to me:
To be honest, when I read it I actually laughed out loud, thinking "this is IT!?" That is all Wes Pollock could come up with to try to damage me from all of the correspondence we have had over the years? THIS is the best he can do? He was willing to sacrifice his reputation of being someone you can trust, rely on, and confide in, JUST to do THIS? Yeah, I laughed quite hard about that one.
And of course, please notice that Wes did NOT include the statements and questions he obviously had posted that I was responding to. In replies like this, I normally place my replies between the questions and statements posed to me, and they are glaringly absent in this public rendering. I probably have that email somewhere around here, but honestly haven't made a "do or die" effort to find it. But from what I can remember, at least part of it was a whine-o-gram about getting more warning points from unacceptable actions on this site, and most likely those warning points came from Dr. Jay Owens. But if I find it later on, and if anyone feels it is necessary, I may post it here as a "rest of the story", since Wes has apparently laid down the ground rules as to what he feels is acceptable behavior to do with private correspondence.
Now just recently I was discussing this with someone who pointed out that the one paragraph about Dr. Jay Owens could very well sound very unflattering concerning my opinion of Jay. Well to be honest, when I read it myself, I KNEW what context it was stated in, and it didn't sound bad at all to me. I knew what I meant by it when I said it. But yes, I can see where someone not seeing it from the perspective of what I intended it to mean, in reply to Wes Pollock's query, could possibly see it in a whole different light.
From what I can recall, Wes was complaining about Dr. Jay Owens involvement in this site outside of being a moderator. In other words, Jay was not participating at all in the discussion forums and putting in any effort to further support the site with his postings. Now I can't recall exactly when this email took place, but I suspect it was during one of my periods being kind of miffed about the discussion forums not really making any headway, no matter what I have tried with them. And I do recall seeing Jay being involved with doing admin work on another startup website and posting some messages there apparently trying to help get it off of the ground. So yeah, I guess I did have a bit of disappointment about Jay not helping out in the discussion forums here, and confided that fact to Wes in that email. But if you will read further in that paragraph, you will also note that I completely understood (although wishing it were otherwise) why that was the case. I knew I had no right whatsoever to demand anything from my moderators concerning their involvement here, so no, I never made such disappointment public at all, to anyone. And I never mentioned it to my moderaters at all, either. It is ONLY in a private email, made in confidence to someone pretending to be my friend that I admitted these feelings. And you can certainly see how that sort of trust and confidence was treated by Mr. Wes Pollock in how he entrusted such correspondence from me.
The rest of the message, in my opinion, is so harmless I can't imagine why Wes even bothered to include it. For your info, the "Dan" mentioned in the top paragraph is "Dan Wedeking". I was pretty disappointed with the way Dan had reacted when I went to paid memberships, and good old buddy boy Wes Pollock offered to be a go between and try to smooth things out between Dan and myself. With the benefit of hindsight I now have into Wes Pollock, lord only knows what he may have said to Dan, saying it came from my fingertips on the keyboard.
Certainly Wes's actions have been an eye opener. I always thought of Wes as a basically honest guy, someone you could count on to do the right thing, although maybe rough on the edges a bit. Well I guess my naivety is showing again.....
So anyway, I felt I needed to clear the air about this thing. I needed to point out the context of the message that was apparently left wanting when Wes decided to make it public and use it, in my opinion, to attempt to damage me and apparently drive a wedge between myself and one of my valued moderators.
Later, in the HELL forum of all places, I heard that apparently that email that Wes took the liberty of making public, was being passed around the web and some said they felt it was damaging to me. With that in mind, I asked someone to please send it to me so I could see what I was up against. The following is what was sent to me:
To be honest, when I read it I actually laughed out loud, thinking "this is IT!?" That is all Wes Pollock could come up with to try to damage me from all of the correspondence we have had over the years? THIS is the best he can do? He was willing to sacrifice his reputation of being someone you can trust, rely on, and confide in, JUST to do THIS? Yeah, I laughed quite hard about that one.
And of course, please notice that Wes did NOT include the statements and questions he obviously had posted that I was responding to. In replies like this, I normally place my replies between the questions and statements posed to me, and they are glaringly absent in this public rendering. I probably have that email somewhere around here, but honestly haven't made a "do or die" effort to find it. But from what I can remember, at least part of it was a whine-o-gram about getting more warning points from unacceptable actions on this site, and most likely those warning points came from Dr. Jay Owens. But if I find it later on, and if anyone feels it is necessary, I may post it here as a "rest of the story", since Wes has apparently laid down the ground rules as to what he feels is acceptable behavior to do with private correspondence.
Now just recently I was discussing this with someone who pointed out that the one paragraph about Dr. Jay Owens could very well sound very unflattering concerning my opinion of Jay. Well to be honest, when I read it myself, I KNEW what context it was stated in, and it didn't sound bad at all to me. I knew what I meant by it when I said it. But yes, I can see where someone not seeing it from the perspective of what I intended it to mean, in reply to Wes Pollock's query, could possibly see it in a whole different light.
From what I can recall, Wes was complaining about Dr. Jay Owens involvement in this site outside of being a moderator. In other words, Jay was not participating at all in the discussion forums and putting in any effort to further support the site with his postings. Now I can't recall exactly when this email took place, but I suspect it was during one of my periods being kind of miffed about the discussion forums not really making any headway, no matter what I have tried with them. And I do recall seeing Jay being involved with doing admin work on another startup website and posting some messages there apparently trying to help get it off of the ground. So yeah, I guess I did have a bit of disappointment about Jay not helping out in the discussion forums here, and confided that fact to Wes in that email. But if you will read further in that paragraph, you will also note that I completely understood (although wishing it were otherwise) why that was the case. I knew I had no right whatsoever to demand anything from my moderators concerning their involvement here, so no, I never made such disappointment public at all, to anyone. And I never mentioned it to my moderaters at all, either. It is ONLY in a private email, made in confidence to someone pretending to be my friend that I admitted these feelings. And you can certainly see how that sort of trust and confidence was treated by Mr. Wes Pollock in how he entrusted such correspondence from me.
The rest of the message, in my opinion, is so harmless I can't imagine why Wes even bothered to include it. For your info, the "Dan" mentioned in the top paragraph is "Dan Wedeking". I was pretty disappointed with the way Dan had reacted when I went to paid memberships, and good old buddy boy Wes Pollock offered to be a go between and try to smooth things out between Dan and myself. With the benefit of hindsight I now have into Wes Pollock, lord only knows what he may have said to Dan, saying it came from my fingertips on the keyboard.
Certainly Wes's actions have been an eye opener. I always thought of Wes as a basically honest guy, someone you could count on to do the right thing, although maybe rough on the edges a bit. Well I guess my naivety is showing again.....
So anyway, I felt I needed to clear the air about this thing. I needed to point out the context of the message that was apparently left wanting when Wes decided to make it public and use it, in my opinion, to attempt to damage me and apparently drive a wedge between myself and one of my valued moderators.
