Adobe Photoshop pic tester website!!!

[Johnenewt1]

For any of you who would like to know who some of the dishonest breeders are out there (and yes, there are plenty of them), you can now find out for yourself who they are. If you go to: http://regex.info/exif.cgi, you have the option to input any pic, and it will tell you if the program Adobe Photoshop has been used on the pic!

In the first option, you can paste in the web address of the pic... you can get this by right-clicking on any image from an internet page, click on Properties, highlight the URL Address, copy it, paste it into the "Image URL" box on the above website, and then click on "View Image at URL". It will tell you everything about the pic.

Or, in the second option, if the pic is on your computer, first click on the "Browse" button next to "Local Image File" on the above website, find and select the pic that's on your computer, and then click on "View Image from File". It will tell you everything about the pic.


Maybe this will cut back on a lot of the dishonesty that's going on out there, where breeders are misleading the public by using Adobe Photoshop to increase their dragon's color saturation, more than what their dragons really have. Let's try to learn a little more about morality, folks.



John

 

[Ameivaboy]

A lot of people myself included use photoshop on their images- not too "fool" people but to crop and size images etc. I'll use it to open up a dark image as well. People should be asking for multiple photos of animals in different lighting and angles to get the best perception of what they are purchasing.

 

[Johnenewt1]

Well then you're someone I would never purchase from. Tainting is tainting, regardless of whether you're increasing the pic's color or cropping its pic. Noone can tell exactly what you're doing in Photoshop. Free programs like Instacropper can crop your images without worrying about any other types of modification. If everyone took their pics in natural lighting, and not under their tank's heat bulb which increases the color in photographs, most times there wouldn't be any question on how the animal looks that they're purchasing.

 

[Ameivaboy]

That's some opinion....

Say you're selling something.. you take a picture of it and there's a big turd in the background- other than that the picture is perfect, I would crop the turd out.
A big turd never makes for an appealing ad, but animals will do what they do.

Though if the animal had say a kink on it's tail and you crop that out and dont list that defect in your ad then you are being deceitful.

also, sometimes dim lighting makes it so you can't really make the animal out.

Opening up the image so you can see it better is not a crime (I do this if i take pictures with my iphone 3g as they picture quality is not good)

Big difference between these methods and altering the photo to increase color/hue
as a deceitful tactic.

If you're that concerned with how the animal looks then one should ask for multiple photos. I do this and when I do I take them at varying angles and under different lighting.

 

[Ameivaboy]

Also- Everyones moniters are different and will display colors differently- it's not all the same across the board.

 

[Ameivaboy]

I'm bored so here's some images I just did....

This is deceitful photoshopping

here's another Image

from left to right

original picture, opened up picture and "color manipulated"

Funny thing with this image is the color manipulated one is the one that most looks like the actual snake when in hand.

Not that I would ever go to that much trouble for an ad but it would take some manipulation to show what the animal truly looks like from this photo.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

I will point out, that not everyone can take natural light photos.. I live in Minnesota.. it is currently 50 degrees out.. I am certainly not going to take my baby snakes outside because someone wants new photos..

Editing colour I do not agree with.. just get better lights.. but cropping or resizing almost always needs to be done.. my camera takes photos at 48 inches wide.. I assume no one wants to have to scroll to see a photo..

I can't afford photoshop.. but I do use PSP and resize every photo I have so that I can actually post it..

 

[Ameivaboy]

It's all about the integrity of the person doing the photoshopping.

Do I have the ability to alter photos to make the animals look more desirable than they actually are? Sure I do. I can cover up scares, brighten or completely change colors.

Do I actively use this skill to deceive people into buying my animals- absolutely not.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

I think that is the point of his post though.. how are most people going to know ones "integrity"..

Again though, it is a broad field.. not everyone using photoshop is editing.. they may have just cropped etc..

 

[Ameivaboy]

How do you really know the integrity of anyone you buy off of online?

Even known "good guys" have gone bad.

 

[Clay Davenport]

Well then you're someone I would never purchase from. Tainting is tainting, regardless of whether you're increasing the pic's color or cropping its pic. Noone can tell exactly what you're doing in Photoshop. Free programs like Instacropper can crop your images without worrying about any other types of modification. If everyone took their pics in natural lighting, and not under their tank's heat bulb which increases the color in photographs, most times there wouldn't be any question on how the animal looks that they're purchasing.

I guess you would never purchase from me either if this is your opinion.
Every photo in an ad I post, and as far as I know every photo on my website would show that photoshop has been used.
The thing is it doesn't tell you what photoshop was used for.

I keep my camera set on the maximum resolution. I use photoshop to crop, then resize every image I take. For ads I usually add a text layer that has the ID number and often the weight of the snake. The ID number is so I can easily reference the exact snake someone is inquiring about.

I never alter color or anything else like that, but the photoshop tags will be on the picture anyway.
I would bet the same could be said of a large number of people selling online. To refuse to buy from anyone for this reason alone will significantly decrease the number of people you can potentially buy from, and in many cases write them off for no reason at all.

 

[Johnenewt1]

I will point out, that not everyone can take natural light photos.. I live in Minnesota.. it is currently 50 degrees out.. I am certainly not going to take my baby snakes outside because someone wants new photos..

You don't have to go outside. You can take your pics near a window, or under fluorescent light bulbs.

 

[Johnenewt1]

I guess you would never purchase from me either if this is your opinion.
Every photo in an ad I post, and as far as I know every photo on my website would show that photoshop has been used.
The thing is it doesn't tell you what photoshop was used for.

I keep my camera set on the maximum resolution. I use photoshop to crop, then resize every image I take. For ads I usually add a text layer that has the ID number and often the weight of the snake. The ID number is so I can easily reference the exact snake someone is inquiring about.

I never alter color or anything else like that, but the photoshop tags will be on the picture anyway.
I would bet the same could be said of a large number of people selling online. To refuse to buy from anyone for this reason alone will significantly decrease the number of people you can potentially buy from, and in many cases write them off for no reason at all.

That's correct, I wouldn't. Once again you can use other programs like Instacropper to crop your images without causing customers to worry if the color has been modified, because the program does not have the ability to do so. I'm just informing the public of the use of the pic testing website. Whatever conclusions you come to is up to you. I'm sticking with the non-modification program breeders... I'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Southern Wolf]

Well then you're someone I would never purchase from. Tainting is tainting, regardless of whether you're increasing the pic's color or cropping its pic. Noone can tell exactly what you're doing in Photoshop. Free programs like Instacropper can crop your images without worrying about any other types of modification. If everyone took their pics in natural lighting, and not under their tank's heat bulb which increases the color in photographs, most times there wouldn't be any question on how the animal looks that they're purchasing.

I guess you wont be buying from me either.... cause my logo dont just magically appear on all of the images inside of the camera. I also shoot my images in RAW format.... and you'll never hear folks say... he makes his images look better than the animal. If anything... I make them look a little duller so your pleasently surprised when the animal arrives.

As a photographer I know how to shoot the best side of something.... but here recently I lost a sale because of my honestly. I showed the animal as it was... not choosing an angle that would hide it being a little thin.

So in the end.... if you dont want to do business with me because the photograper side of me chooses to process my digital negatives in photoshop.... I can live with that.

 

[Southern Wolf]

That's correct, I wouldn't. Once again you can use other programs like Instacropper to crop your images without causing customers to worry if the color has been modified, because the program does not have the ability to do so. I'm just informing the public of the use of the pic testing website. Whatever conclusions you come to is up to you. I'm sticking with the non-modification program breeders... I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Why would I want to use an inferrior program?

I spent alot of time and money into my photography.... and I use the best software out there to process my RAW data.

And once again... that program wont put my black border or my logo on each and every image I show online.

Do you realize that those of us that take decent images get our images stolen. Thus the reason for the logo. Case in point... I just had to out someone on the BOI for doing just that. He stole my image and used it in his CL ad.

Just because we processes our photos does NOT mean we are bad guys trying to scam the reptile community.

 

[Southern Wolf]

John... basically your trying to say that anyone that uses Photoshop is a bad guy. That would be like me saying... anyone from NY is a bad guy because there are proven bad guys from NY.

Thats just stooopid.

 

[Ameivaboy]

John... basically your trying to say that anyone that uses Photoshop is a bad guy.

That's what got under my skin about this.

 

[Southern Wolf]

Well then you're someone I would never purchase from. Tainting is tainting, regardless of whether you're increasing the pic's color or cropping its pic. Noone can tell exactly what you're doing in Photoshop. Free programs like Instacropper can crop your images without worrying about any other types of modification. If everyone took their pics in natural lighting, and not under their tank's heat bulb which increases the color in photographs, most times there wouldn't be any question on how the animal looks that they're purchasing.

Well according to you.... even if you crop the image using a free program like Instacropper.... that photo is still tainted. Maybe you shouldn't buy from you either.

Just sayin.....

 

[WebSlave]

You don't have to go outside. You can take your pics near a window, or under fluorescent light bulbs.

You can't be serious..... Fluorescent lights will skew the color balance something awful in a photo. Almost as bad as incandescent lights but in a different direction.

Heck, for that matter, depending on what time of day you take a photo, that can dramatically influence the color balance on the subject as well. So does the background you use for the photograph, no matter what the light source, and ANY colored reflective surfaces nearby.

Heck, the last digital still camera I bought takes photos that are 4,256 x 2,848 pixels in size. You HAVE to either crop them or resize them to realistically use them on the web. And generally it is a real good idea to watermark them as well to keep them from being used elsewhere.

Frankly, I would be surprised if there is any professional (or even semi-professional) photographer who DOESN'T use Photoshop or something functionally equivalent on every photo they publish.

Now if the program would tell WHAT filters were applied to the photograph via Photoshop, then it might be worth using.

So you choose to bypass sellers who use Photoshop and then wind up buying an animal that was soaked in CoolAid instead. Personally, I think there are better rules of thumb to utilize in choosing who to buy from.

 

[Miss Tuniwha]

You can't be serious..... Fluorescent lights will skew the color balance something awful in a photo. Almost as bad as incandescent lights but in a different direction.

Heck, for that matter, depending on what time of day you take a photo, that can dramatically influence the color balance on the subject as well. So does the background you use for the photograph, no matter what the light source, and ANY colored reflective surfaces nearby.

Heck, the last digital still camera I bought takes photos that are 4,256 x 2,848 pixels in size. You HAVE to either crop them or resize them to realistically use them on the web. And generally it is a real good idea to watermark them as well to keep them from being used elsewhere.

Frankly, I would be surprised if there is any professional (or even semi-professional) photographer who DOESN'T use Photoshop or something functionally equivalent on every photo they publish.

Now if the program would tell WHAT filters were applied to the photograph via Photoshop, then it might be worth using.

So you choose to bypass sellers who use Photoshop and then wind up buying an animal that was soaked in CoolAid instead. Personally, I think there are better rules of thumb to utilize in choosing who to buy from.

Thanks, you just saved me some typing