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Alan Hall (Good Guy)

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Just thought I would post my recent positive experience with Alan Hall from Jungle Habitats Plastics. I am a college student and thus spent hours researching cages online to find the best deal, and when it came to a custom cage with heat and lighting I found Alan’s to work best for me. I also needed something lightweight as I move around a lot (the cage is very lightweight for its size!). When the cage arrived I opened it and noticed a few things: there were vent holes drilled in the side I didn’t ask for and one of the vent covers was missing, and there wasn’t a lock on it as I had requested. *HOWever, when I contacted Alan about this he insisted on sending me another cage built to the specifications I wanted. A few weeks later I receive an e-mail from him saying that the new cage will soon be sent AND for the time it took he would rather me put to use the previously sent cage than hassle with trying to ship it back to him and risk it being damaged on the way back (sweet deal!). In addition, he didn’t forget about that missing vent cover and is sending it with the new cage! Throughout the ordeal he has been easy to contact and provided great customer service and the cages are wonderful. Thanks Alan,
Robert King
(PS...new to the forum...new snake owner 0.1 Cay Caulker...hello all!)
 
Good guy??? Are you serious?

This is the guy who tried to shake down Jeffie in order to take a spiteful jab at the owner of this site. In my opinion.

There is another thread about this somewhere around here. Be certain to take a look at it before sending this guy your money.
 
DAND said:
Robert,

Welcome to the forum. You may want to do a search here prior to dealing with someone in the future. It could save you a lot of time, money and stress.
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Alan sent him here to post.



RKing611
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds?:
Alan Hall at Jungle Habitats Plastics
 
Alan did not send me here!!!

For those of you that care to do a search, you will see that I did a "good guy" post on Alan way before the issue came up about Alan, Rich, and Jeff.
I had purchased some cages from him and posted about my "good" experience. I'm not saying that Alan builds the best cages on the market. He does have the best cage for certain situations, AP for other situations, and Vision for others, etc., etc. This site or anyone on this site does not have the power to kill Alan's cage business. The party that started this thread was simply stating his experience with Alan. Why are some of you unwilling to acccept that?

To the party that stated that Alan had sent his customer here, please provide your proof of that statement!!! Unless you have a copy of a phone call recording, email, fax, or other proof, then from my point of view, you owe Alan an apology. I don't see where whatever "may" have went down between Alan, Rich, and Jeff has anything to do with his cage building ability.

Just my point of view

Thank you.

David Rivers
 
In My Defense

Posting my experience with Alan is something I did on my own out of gratitude for the services he provided me. Aside from conflicts that i can now see he has obviously had here with you all, he *in my opinion* provided a great product and great customer service (afterall, isnt the purpose of this to post such experiences??). I realize that what he did here upset you all and with good reason, however this doesn't mean that he isn't running a legitimate business and it doesnt mean he is going to rip you off if you send him money for a cage (i've already got one and the other is on its way and i'm very happy with it). Sorry to stir up controversy...was just posting my own experience with him...hopefully I'M not now automatically associated with the feelings you all have towards him simply as a result of my dealing with him. I'm glad I found this site as a new Boa owner i'm sure i'll have plenty of questions.
Robert King
 
David R. said:
For those of you that care to do a search, you will see that I did a "good guy" post on Alan way before the issue came up about Alan, Rich, and Jeff.
I had purchased some cages from him and posted about my "good" experience. I'm not saying that Alan builds the best cages on the market. He does have the best cage for certain situations, AP for other situations, and Vision for others, etc., etc. This site or anyone on this site does not have the power to kill Alan's cage business. The party that started this thread was simply stating his experience with Alan. Why are some of you unwilling to acccept that?

To the party that stated that Alan had sent his customer here, please provide your proof of that statement!!! Unless you have a copy of a phone call recording, email, fax, or other proof, then from my point of view, you owe Alan an apology. I don't see where whatever "may" have went down between Alan, Rich, and Jeff has anything to do with his cage building ability.

Just my point of view

Thank you.

David Rivers
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Ummm He said it himself.

RKing611
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds?:
Alan Hall at Jungle Habitats Plastics
 
David R. said:
To the party that stated that Alan had sent his customer here, please provide your proof of that statement!!! Unless you have a copy of a phone call recording, email, fax, or other proof, then from my point of view, you owe Alan an apology. I don't see where whatever "may" have went down between Alan, Rich, and Jeff has anything to do with his cage building ability.

Just my point of view

Thank you.

David Rivers
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I believe he did provide proof. I enlarged what he posted just in case you missed it the first time.

Dennis Hultman said:
Alan sent him here to post.

RKing611
Where did you hear about FaunaClassifieds?:
Alan Hall at Jungle Habitats Plastics
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Do you really think Alen is sending people to Fauna for any other reason but for his own benifit?
 
RKing611 said:
I realize that what he did here upset you all and with good reason, however this doesn't mean that he isn't running a legitimate business
Robert King
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Correction, what he did demonstrates that he is not running a legitimate business. He could have the best product in the world (which he does not, although I have given him credit for his innovations time and again) but it would not excuse his behavior.

Unless you want to explain how asking for a kickback for giving information leading to a lawsuit victory is a legitimate practice for a business to undertake?
 
RKing611 said:
Aside from conflicts that i can now see he has obviously had here with you all, he *in my opinion* provided a great product and great customer service (afterall, isnt the purpose of this to post such experiences??). I realize that what he did here upset you all and with good reason, however this doesn't mean that he isn't running a legitimate business and it doesnt mean he is going to rip you off if you send him money for a cage Robert King
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This leads me to believe you already knew the situation before you posted.
Are you saying you went and read the threads after you posted your good guy post?

Thanks, DAND
I forgot post to post for the visual impaired

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To E2MacPets: Correction, legitimate in the business sense of the term in which I implied simply means that he provides the product that he says he will at the agreed upon price, which was my experience. So yes, as far as I am concerned the business is legitimate. You mention his behavior....now in a behavioral sense of the term legitimate I can see where there is an issue and that is a whole other topic that has nothing to do with me. This, however, does not mean he runs an illegitimate business.

To DAND: How are you led to believe I already knew the situation before I posted? I will use the same quote of mine that you did: “Aside from conflicts that I can now see he has obviously had here with you all...”. The “can now see” implies that I did my research and read about the conflict after receiving these replies to my “good guy” post, which is the case. Happy to clear that up for you.

Listen, I didn’t come here to stir up controversy. I feel you all would agree that this is perhaps the most prominent Herp-related forum on the internet and I agree that it’s a wonderful resource. I simply did what is meant to be done here by posting my own positive personal experience with someone in the business. I didn’t realize it would cause such a stir, but I still don’t regret doing it, because I DID have a positive experience with his business despite what many of you have against him on a personal level. As I said before, it would be a shame for you all to associate me with the feelings you have for him simply because I posted my good experience with a man who is involved with a touchy subject here. Thanks,
Robert King
 
RKing611 said:
To DAND: How are you led to believe I already knew the situation before I posted? I will use the same quote of mine that you did: “Aside from conflicts that I can now see he has obviously had here with you all...”. The “can now see” implies that I did my research and read about the conflict after receiving these replies to my “good guy” post, which is the case. Happy to clear that up for you.
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You are barking up the wrong tree by addressing me.

Dennis Hultman said:
This leads me to believe you already knew the situation before you posted.
Are you saying you went and read the threads after you posted your good guy post?

Thanks, DAND
I forgot post to post for the visual impaired

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Dennis was just thanking me for enlarging an area so that it was there for the visually challenged, which seems to be catching as of late. :D
 
RKing611 said:
To E2MacPets: Correction, legitimate in the business sense of the term in which I implied simply means that he provides the product that he says he will at the agreed upon price, which was my experience. So yes, as far as I am concerned the business is legitimate. You mention his behavior....now in a behavioral sense of the term legitimate I can see where there is an issue and that is a whole other topic that has nothing to do with me. This, however, does not mean he runs an illegitimate business.

Robert King
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An interesting line of discussion, I hope you don't mind if I continue it.

If you define legitimacy in terms of being able to deliver a product as represented, then would that translate to your support of street vendors selling products "off the back of the truck?" Do you feel that the vendors who make money selling bootlegged movies and records are legitimate businesses?

So does the legitimacy of a business in terms of ethics and legalities determine if you would do business with them? You have clearly indicated that this would not effect your decision.

I am saddened by this, but not surprised given the trends in society that support a similar mindset.
 
DAND said:
You are barking up the wrong tree by addressing me.




Dennis was just thanking me for enlarging an area so that it was there for the visually challenged, which seems to be catching as of late. :D
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Sorry DAND, you're right. I was reading it as if he was signing it DAND. That statement is then directed to Dennis, not you.
 
I don't mind the continuation there at all. You make a good point and I would have to say that I agree that the legitimacy of a business in terms of ethics and legalities DOES determine if i would do business with them, despite you assuming otherwise of me based on my previous statement. However, the example you present of whether or not i feel that the vendors who make money selling bootlegged movies and records are legitimate businesses has no application to the current situation. These people are doing something ILLEGAL. In terms of my business with Alan, the products he provides for me are his own that he makes and he advertises in a legal fashion. I don't know too much about the situation that went down that led to your quarrell with Alex, but i ask: did he do anything illegal? You may find fault with his PERSONAL ethics and thus not be willing to do business with him, but in this case his ethics are rather unrelated to the legitimacy of his business.
Robert King
 
If you read the thread about Alan Hall, you will discover that what he did which was, in my opinion, purely motivated by his business ambitions.
 
In addition, even if what Alan did was personal, and not business related, would you continue to do business with a neo-nazi if he sold a really good product? Sorry for the harsh comparison, but that example actually happened within the last month.
 
No, although a very extreme example, I must be honest and say I would be more than reluctant to do business with a neo-nazi...
 
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