Clive line, two groups of 1.3. 500 each group plus shipping. Pick up in Dixon illinois or will ship. All but one female are het for Snow (aka caramel pink). All have laid multiple times and are about 6 years old, bought by me as hatchlings. Male pictured first is 7". Females are bigger, some a lot! All should be 8-9" at least. They are in the pond and I dont want to fish them out if i dont have to. Pond pic included. Make your own albinos, snows, and caramel pinks. Each female usually lays around 2-3 clutches per year, 9-11 eggs per clutch. Feeding on Mazuri aquatic turtle pellet and a little croc chow, and some of the pond fish probably LOL.