heres your reply Mike
Mike,
read your replies you're contradicting yourself.........
when you-emailed me over the weekend.....didnt I answer your e-mail and told you that I was out of state on my way back ?
Everyone that knows me will tell you that I answer e-mails alot quicker then phone calls because I almost always check my messages later in the evening whereas I check my e-mails throughout the day.
why did I tell you not to send back any bodies ??? because you told me right off the bat when I asked you about the bodies that they were either decomposing outside your window or in the garbage or in a hole you dug for them and you would only send some of them back and not all of them....which implys that you didnt have them all. So didnt I ask you how many you thought you lost because I would replace that amount even though I didnt have any bodies ???
As for the "copout".....everytime I've ever sent you an e-mail or talked to you on the phone, I've always tried to be professional and courteous. What did you do the last time I spoke with you on the phone ??? didnt you start using profanity and were ranting and raving with f**K this and f**k that??? what about the e-mails you've been sending me ??? you know the ones that go something like if you dont do this or if you dont do that then I'll ( threats ). I dont need to be talked to or e-mailed in that fashion, especially not after I've tried to work this thing out with you from the get go. If you CAN'T work things out in a professional and courteous manner......then why should I ???
didnt we originally agree to the fact that you would send the babies you didnt want back today (6/16/2003) for delivery tomorrow(6/17/2003), and when I received them I would then go ahead and convert them to cash for you ? did you ship out the babies today (6/16/2003) ? or did you leave me a message on my answering machine with more profanity about how you wanted me to send you cash before you were willing to send me the babies back ??? let me see you want me to send you cash for babies that I havent received yet, even though you said you would send them back today so I can see them and THEN give you equal cash value for them.
as for the replacements I sent you, you say that you opened the box immediately upon arrival and you even had roommates that saw you do it, did the babies arrive in the morning or afternoon ? remember I've got the tracking number so dont lie. the reason I ask is because you told me that your ROOMMATE opened the box immediately upon arrival in the morning and called you to tell you that more of the babies I sent you were dead, explain to me how YOU opened up this shipment in the morning in front of your roommates and didnt bother to e-mail til 5:15 sometime to let me know that there were dead ones in the shipment ???
Honestly Mike, when I was standing over you and watching you look through the 800 babies I originally delivered to you....did you once say to me that there was a dead one or that there was a few with mouth rot ??? I watched you sift through those babies and not once did you pull out a dead one or pulled out a few and said to me that they had mouthrot or anything else of that matter. You didnt even get the Axanthic male out of your "reptile room" I traded you all those babies for til you were finished looking through the babies I brought you and were satisfied that we were going to proceed with the deal. Had you noticed a dead one or a few with mouthrot, you know damn well that you would've looked right over at me and told me so........but you didnt because you know damn well that they were all alive and healthy when I left your house. As for you saying that I did know about it.......check your old e-mails, I flat out said in one of my e-mails dated 6/9/2003 at 8:55PM that I drove all of these babies, hand delivered them to you and DIDNT LOOSE A SINGLE ONE. If you really would've told me that you found a dead one when I was still at your house.......why didnt you correct me when you received my e-mail or when I talked to you on the phone and kept saying to you that I couldnt figure out what happened because I DIDNT LOOSE A SINGLE ONE when I delivered them to you and you agreed.
Even when I was at your home,your friend who's name I wont mention was very polite and courteous......you were very cocky, arrogant and rude. I should've known better from the get go and should've just not done the deal. I am out alot of time, money, and animals all in order to please you....and all you've ever done is yell, scream, rant and rave over the phone or send me b.s. e-mails. You keep saying that you're professional and a true businessman.....you could've fooled me.
Why didnt you ever tell me that you were medicating them ??? Not once did you ever tell me that you were treating them either through our conversations or via e-mail. I didnt even know you had been medicating them til the earlier thread.
In the earlier thread you stated that you had them "soaking" in a cocktail of panacure, flagyl, etc....then you post that it wasnt all of those different meds and that it was just flagyl. Then you post that you actually have a vet that was doing it for you......why didnt you ever tell me that you had a vet treating them ????? I know for a fact that when I spoke with you a couple of days ago....you stated that I was F******G nuts if I thought you would take them to the vet.
Anyone interested in the e-mail correspondence from beginning to end...please e-mail me or call me. Anyone interested in hearing the messages he left on my answering machine please call or e-mail me.
This below e-mail correspondence was also in the thread Mike started earlier from 2/16/2003
In a message dated 06/16/2003 9:12:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
>From:
[email protected]
>To:
[email protected]
>Subject: Re: Message about: Adult male morphs for trade for large
>quantities ch balls or
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:59:20 EDT
>
>Hey Mike,
>You just lost any chance of getting this rectified with the comment in your
>last e-mail. Here I was getting ready to once AGAIN bend over backwards to
>rectify this without any proof whatsoever that you have had any of these
>babies
>die on you.
>
To rebuttle to this comment as well. Alex i talked to you on friday? YES
you told me that someone was buying the axanthic and you would take the
money in animals that had died on me out of the 5k you were getting for the
axanthic>? YES, then all weekend i tried getting in touch with you but you
had vanished like BATMAN in the night. So i send you a ncie little e-mail
that says "you better have my axanthhic in good shape, cause your #### sucks
real bad" and because of that comment you change your mind? YES you do,
that is the biggest copout ive ever heard-SIMPLE and you still wont return
my calls so it took a comment like that to piss you off bad enough in order
to get some sort of reply from you, and after that you change your mind.
And you think that is grounds for not fixing this mess of dead animals. If
you think im going to sit around while 800 ball pythons rot in my snake room
you're insane. We both now that you've told a few people that you were
losing big amounts of balls from the imports you were bringing in because i
spoke to someone persoanlly about it. I will not reveal who it is because i
promised them i wouldnt and its not because im making it up but they have
some type of relationship with you as well so i dont want to screw things up
for them which i promised i wouldnt do. You, know you're wrong and you know
those snakes are droppiong like flies like the deal we had for me to ship
every snake back to you and me get the remaining balance i bet half of them
woudlnt make the trip back because they're dying so quick. REAL business
people take care of their screwups, Now ALEX PLEASE tell the rest of the
world that if something had happend to that axanthic you wouldnt be back on
my stoop begging for another one????????????????????????????????????? YOU
WOULD and you'd get it i expect the same treatment but then again i am
HONEST and a REAL businessman something which you know nothing about
apparently
>Did you send me all of the dead babie's bodies as proof ??? NO
Absolutely correct Alex i offered
to send you some and you said no need to. When you said the ones that had
died would have to come out of the money that you would refund me once you
sold the axanthic and i would get the remaining balance after you took the
money out for the snakes which had died for me. So there should be a need
for a dead body anyways being that im PAYING for the dead ones anway, but i
offerd and on good faith you sent me some more i will absolutley 100% admit
that. Next
>
>Did you e-mail me pics of all these dead babies ??? NO
Once again you are absolutley correct again. YOU never asked for any and i
offered once more. But now ill put the pics up so everyone can see. Next
>
>Did I send you 75 replacements ASAP even though I didnt have proof that any
>babies were dead ??? YES
You're getting good at this, yes you did send me 75 more and when i opend
the box with my roomates directly in front of me i pulled out a little less
then half of that dead in the containers still, which i will be posting a
pic of some of them tonight as well.
>
>Did you look over the 800 babies when I drove over 750 miles and 20hrs. to
>hand deliver them to you ??? Yes
Yes you did Alex, you drove very far to bring them their thats why one of
the reasons when i found 1 and only 1 dead snake in the batch and a few did
have some mouth rot i wouldnt make you turn around because of what a nice
guy you had been at the time. Next
>
>Were they ALL ALIVE when you looked over them in my presence ??? YES
>No-SEE prior question (1 dead snake and a few with mouthrot right away BUT
>you have to expect to have a few with some problems out of 800 and i
>understand that BECAUSE i am a professional and realize its a percentage
>game. Fine next
>
>Were there problems with any single one of them when I was still at your
>home
>??? NO
YES there was and if you try to lie and say there wasnt then ill really know
what kind of snake YOU are (once again one dead one, some with mouth rot and
dont lie because you know the guy there with me had seen them as well.
>
>Instead of calling me ASAP to notify me that you were having problems,
>which
>any person with that many babies "dieing off within hours" of me leaving
>your
>home would've done ASAP....you waited til 6:00AM the following morning to
>send
>me an e-mail ??? get real, I dont buy the crap you fed me about not having
>long distance and breaking your cell phone. Because prior to having this
>"problem" you called me at least 3 times from your home or cell phone which
>ever one
>it was.
Here is the # to my cell phone store ANW wireless 631-929-5050, call them
and ask them why they are getting me a new phone. Do that im begging you,
and ill also send you my home #'s company and you can call one of them to
talk to a representitive of them to find out of i REALLY have long distance.
I DONT because i live with two other people and we use our cell phones for
that.
>
>Then to top things off, you want to tell me that the replacements I sent
>you
>also arrived DOA ??? who are you kidding ???
No im not kidding about these animals dying. If THEY were healthy then i
would want to keep them and sell them to make some $$$$$$$$$. BUT they're
not. Do you see me selling any on kingsnake? -NO i tried putting up an ad
a while ago and its probably still on there but i havent sold any to anyone
because i cant. I dont sell poeple animals that are going to die. I'm not
that kind of businessman.
>
>Even though we got into a rather heated argument about this problem, fact
>of
>the matter is......even after hand delivering you 800 ALIVE and HEALTHY
>baby
>balls which you ACCEPTED delivery of.....and even after replacing 75 of
>them
>that you claim died with no proof whatsoever.........and even after you try
>to
>tell me that the replacements I sent also arrived DOA..........I was still
>going to work it out with you.
>
>But, I've now come to the conclusion that all of my obligations have been
>met
>and this matter is closed.
>
>Alex
>
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>In a message dated 6/16/2003 1:40:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>
[email protected] writes:
>
>>you better have my axanthhic in good shape, cause your **** sucks real
>bad
>>
