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Alex Hue and TNS reptiles

I'm playing with fire? I'll tell you what Mike, I will put my reputation, my experinece, my knowledge, my animals and my statements on this board up against yours anytime.

And again you have avoided answering any questions and keep making more friends by calling everyone a joke. Then don't post here. You are a joke to think that if you keep talking smack people will not realize that you are changing and distorting the truth and your own statements. You have been called out and you are acting like an immature child. How about sticking with answers for questions and backing up your statements with some facts? How about it?
 
Wow Mike, you were worried about me and at the same time you managed to turn everyone against you with your horrible attitude, name calling and lies. Good going. This thread was really a great idea. Don't sweat it though. You can get your family and friends to pretend that they are customers that are happy with purchases and post on the BOI and I'm sure you will bounce back.

By the way, how are you going to send us frozen ball pythons for Xmas when you detailed for us how you don't have room in your freezer next to your food? Remember? So I guess you will have to kill some more later in the year and send us those.
 
IVE TOLD YOU THAT I WOULD GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS TOMORROW BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU PUSHES FOR THEM NOW AND CALLS ME A LIAR. WHY WOULD I CONTINUE TO BOTHER WITH ANY OF YOU WHEN IM NOT GIVEN A CHANCE TO PRODUCE ANYTHING AT ALL. I'M CALLED A SCUMBAG BECAUSE I HAVE TO PRODUCE SOMETHING TOMORROW. IM LOSING FREINDS? YOU ARE FAR FROM A FREIND PAL, YOU PEOPLE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES IF YOU THINK THAT IM IN THE WRONG HERE. IF THIS IS THE COMMUNITY THAT I HAVE TO BELONG TO THEN ILL CUT MY LOSSES AND NOT HAVE FRIENDS THAT WILL NOT LET ANYONE PRODUCE ANYTHING. I SAID TIME AFTER TIME I WOULD PRODUCE WHAT YOU ALL NEEDED SOBADLY TOMORROW BUT NOW IM A SCUMBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'LL ABOUT THAT
 
EVAN,
HONESTLY YOU ARE PROBABLY PLAYING WITH FIRE THERE BUDDY. FIRST OF ALL MY BEST BUDDY WHICH IS WHO? ARE WE BRINGING IN OTHER PEOPLE INTO THIS FOR WHAT REASON, BECAUSE I MAYBE BOUGHT THINGS OFF OF PEOPLE AND POSTED THAT THEY HAD GOOD ANIMALS? HAHA THIS IS A JOKE

MIKE
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Can someone translate the quote for me? Because english is my second language and it makes no sense to me.

Is he saying he bought animals off of people. Then he posted good things. And it was not really good and he was just joking?
 
EVAN DONT WORRY IM GONNA SEND YOU AND ALEX SOME BALLS WITH THE VET BILL DIRECTLY TO YOUR HOUSES THEN YOU CAN TAKE PICS FOR EVERYONE HOW ABOUT THAT OK? WITH THE EXACT AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT WERE TREATED OK. THEN WELL CONTNINUE THIS NONSENSE

MIKE
 
Evan,,,
he can't stick with the facts,,,, he has told so many versions of "the facts" he can't even keep up with all the versions.....


I think we all see now whose
"ARGUMENTS ARE WEAK AT BEST"

Yep Mike i felt sympathetic for ya man,,, but after all the lies,,,
damn ,,, you really need a good long look in the mirror,,,
And we are the"clowns"

you are just pissed because we have called you on your lies,,,

Hope you are good at your other Job,,, cause anyone reading this thread will never buy from you,,,

Including me...

and to think he said we are the fools!

you just figured out a really quick way to lose what respect anyone in the reptile world had for ya,,,
( i don't think this thread will disapear like the last one,,,)
 
Now this has gotten me interested. I have just contacted my programmer to see if there is any way at all to recover that original thread. Even bits or pieces of it would be helpful. If need be, I will load up the backup database onto my test site and recover that original thread myself.
 
This is all I can say about Alex

I personally bought a small batch(25) of Balls from Alex.

all of them are eatting and doing great.

Looked alittle thin when I first recieved them. But in the last 3 weeks have more then doubled in size and are now eatting 25 gram Rat pups.

Sorry for your loss Mike, But just from the few things I have read. This just don,t seem to add up.

Maybe I missed someting?????
 
Mike, you have now had nearly a day and a half to answer the same questions, I have asked some on the original post that still have not been answered. Wes was on the original thread minuates after me with some very sensible questions too, and none have been answered.

I also thought you took care of all your animals yourself, Now I see you are taking all of these balls to your vet so THEY can give the cocktail???? And after they tossed the animals into this "cocktail" they never told you how they were treating these animals???
 
That would be a wonderful way to help clear this up R.Z. as I cant help but wonder if I cant read right.

I thought I read that origanal lost thread about 4-5 times in a matter of minuates, but it keeps changing.
 
Indeed, I hope you can pull it up Webslave. He did in fact say he used a cocktail of different meds, I read that too and the fact that HE soaked them in it. Mike, you did say that. There is no twisting on that.
Right now I would just like to know how the snakes really died, and if those snakes are rotting before their time how can that be?
If you have the receipt, Mike, put it up now, it need not wait until tomorrow, and we all know that a Vet will give a receipt.
I can not really tell how much one person is lying vs. how much people can twist words. More proof would be needed Mike. And right now only you can provide that.
 
Alex Hue Reptiles

I received a group of ball pythons from Alex Hue on 6/4/2003 and they are all doing fine. Not a single one has died or given me any trouble whatsoever.

Just wanted to add my two cents for what its worth... YMMV.
 

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My experience with alex.
The truth. The whole truth even if it hurts.

30 ball pythons bought from him arrived May 30
1 escaped but I found tonight.
1 died of an unexplainable death. And it had already eaten twice and was looking healthy when it died.
1 won't eat.

So out of 30
1 is dead
and
1 won't eat.

I like em odds
 
exactly twisting words when i said i soaked them in a cocktail does that mean i myself did. this is what you people say i lie about. i soaked means they were soaked by me or my vet simple. You'll get your vet bill, this is becoming funny how you poeple twist every single word. frankly im getting tired of it
 
Whether you soaked them or the vet soaked them in a cocktail of meds doesn't really matter. The fact that it was done is the problem.
I believe in the original post I asked... How could you tell how much meds they were recieiving if they were being soaked in them?
I never saw the answer.
My vet gives reciepts for all the meds my animals get if they are the ones administering it.
I hope Rich can come up with the Original
Rob
 
Actually, I seem to remember you saying the vet told YOU to make sure they drank it. That would clearly indicate that YOU were the one doing the medcating. Man I hope Rich can pull up that thread, either way, I told you to come clean 5 pages back. If you'd have done it then and there you might have gotten out of here with just a bruise. Now, the lumps are just gonna keep coming.....
 
come up with all the originals you want, when i get this bill scanned then you can say whatever you want ok. end of discussion when that comes in then you can gossip all you want
 
Mike

I'm going to ask you one more time......

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT EVER TELL ME THAT YOU WERE MEDICATING THE BABIES ?????

Why is it you never ever brought up the fact that you were medicating these babies yourself or even that your vet was doing it ?????

In all of the e-mails you sent me and all of the conversations we had.......NOT ONCE DID YOU TELL ME THEY WERE BEING MEDICATED.

You had me thinking this entire time that "they were just dieing".......then you said to me that you figured it out and they were dieing of mouth rot.

I'm still trying to figure out why the heck you would treat and medicate babies with panacur, flagyl or any other dewormer if they were dieing of mouth rot.

I can tell you right now that if I had known you were treating them or soaking them with any de-wormer after you told me that they were dieing of mouth rot......I would not have sent you the 75 HEALTHY replacements.

You killed those snakes and I paid for your mistakes.



Subj: Re: Message about: Adult male morphs for trade for large quantities ch balls or
Date: 06/09/2003 6:52:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)



Alex i've figured out what is wrong with most of them and why they are
dying-mouthrot. More then half of these animals have mouthrot. I spent my
whole day cleaning out mouths so these animals wont die. I look forward for
an e-mail from you-thanks


>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Message about: Adult male morphs for trade for large
>quantities ch balls or
>Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 18:49:54 EDT
>
>Mike,
>Keep me posted.
>
>Thanks,
>Alex
>
>Alex Hue Reptiles
>616-8351308

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OK, I have copied the backup database done at 2:08am on 6/17/03 and copied it to my test site. I don't really know how to copy an entire thread over to here, nor if it is even possible to do. But I found the post that seems to be most in question that TNS Reptiles posted on 6/17/03 at 12:17am. I have cut and pasted it, in it's entirety, COMPLETELY unedited here:

Al it's a full time job.

Lisa Marie, i never expected to have 100% healthy animals i know the story with imports is so nothing is ever guaranteed i know that. BUT just like i would of replaced the snake for Alex and Alex did replace them for me (not all that died) but then those died before i even opened the box.

Wes to answer some of your questions. 1-my full name is Mike Brooks 2-Take my hearsay for what its worth im not asking anyone to take that as proof which i realize its not. If you read the whole post that is not what im basing anything at all. 3-My personal vet gave me a cocktail of different things to soak them in to make sure they drank it. Thats what you do with 100's of ball pythons that are CH. Flagyl, panacur etc ....i believe but ill get you more on that. 4-I have 10 to a bin. Anyone who keeps large #'s of balls with certainly tell you that 10 to a bin is more then adequate. The bins are 25"L x 15"w x 4" H. The hot spot in every bin is 88 and my snake room doesn't go below 77 and the ambeint difference is just about that. 5-Yes i do have other reptiles. Many other Boas and Pythons including some high end balls and such.6-im the only one that has access to my reptiles because i keep my snake collection off limits to anyone because of the dangers involved with some of my animals. So i think i can rule out anyone trying to sabotage my collection.

Before anyone asks anymore questions about how i was taking care of them let me assure you that i know how to take care of a ball python. Another thing is that this is not something thats been going on for weeks. It's been one week and ive lost numerous probably around the 200+ mark already. And the first night i lost a majority of them not to mention all the dead ones that were shipped to me. As far as Alex im sure he is a great guy and im sure he's done great business with many people but with me he didnt simple. And just like i would replace the axanthic if he was knocking on my door i would expect the same which he did you but all those were dead. YOU"VE got to be kidding me with that. I'm very serious about what i do and very serious about this business. I have a lot of time and money invested in what i do and im not trying to bad mouth anybody who doesnt deserve it. I've lost 200+ aniamls already within a week. I'll be posting 34 snakes I just pulled out of cages that were rotting. Something is wrong when that many snakes die in week. Something is VERY wrong.-Simple

Mike Brooks
TNS Reptiles
Long Island, N.Y.
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If someone wants to take a look at that thread in it's entirety from the backup database:

Thread initiated by TNS Reptiles

I believe you will be able to read it, but I think I set that site to READ ONLY. In any event, anything posted over there will get lost. BTW, it ain't pretty over on that site because I don't have the actual program code of this site running there. But it will serve the purpose of allowing you all to read the thread up till the time I did the backup.
 
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