Bad Guy Alex Hutchison tease bronzino88 seller's regret

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

Ojibwe Anishinaabe is my first language,
not this Anglish/English/England stuff

 

[JCCS]

Ok, was just wondering as some of your thoughts were not expressed very effectively for whatever reason.

Now, my next question. Would you have been fine if you had received frozen geckos if he had relinquished and shipped them?

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

yeah
That is what waiving the live arrival guarantee expectation means.
That's the risk, everytime.
Though I'd be surprised to get frozen geckos
since I bought only one.
People give me extra animals in shipments sometimes,
nice gifts....
I be surprised if my gecko was not alright in shipment.
Maybe I got more confidence in American Aero-space industry.
If people already getting ready to launch for Mars
I'd risk sending some time functioning biosphere units there first.
I'd rather lizard splat infecting Mars over Human splat.

 

[Ed Clark]

Maybe I got more confidence in American Aero-space industry.
If people already getting ready to launch for Mars
I'd risk sending some time functioning biosphere units there first.
I'd rather lizard splat infecting Mars over Human splat.

How does this pertain to this thread?

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

How does rocketing
a biosphere full of living animals
to Mars relate?

Cause it is actually on the drawing board of viable ideas
and it makes flying a gecko seem fairly safe.

I'm kind to my animals and they thrive and reproduce.
Most my animals are for non-invasive research.
I've got my biology degree and professional certs.
I'm not cruel.

Over 40 boxes of similar animals gave been jetted here
through the upper atmosphere and in winter conditions,
CAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY FARTHER OUT IN SPACE,
this little corner of the planet now...

never a real problem
never a death

like I don't know what conditions are safe

A blue green tokay could sell for $400 to $600
and this guy wouldn't follow through
with the good deal he floated out there
$100 shipped for such a nice animal...
I'd second guess myself for that near give away too

and a bunch of these loose lip commentators,
who talk when they don't know,
sound like sheltered inner-children
who eat meat
though can't kill an animal
for it themselves

 

[JCCS]

Have you ever sought mental health treatment? If not, maybe it's not a bad idea. The potential seller dodged a major bullet on this one. Good job recognizing a headache and walking away before it got ugly.

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

JCCS
you are an Asshole

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

I will try to leave it at this:
amateur and unprofessional
wishy-washy shippers
can do all the business you want together.
I don't like that style
and
you don't like my jet rocketing
animals in risky conditions style....
cause life always involves some risk

I don't like doing business
that last minute falls through,
with very little explanation given.

You all do that together and be happy

We know who each other are now.

 

[LauraB]

I will try to leave it at this:
amateur and unprofessional
wishy-washy shippers
can do all the business you want together.
I don't like that style
and
you don't like my jet rocketing
animals in risky conditions style....
cause life always involves some risk ....

That was not the entire quote, but enough to
Jo Nathan, sorry you did not get the animals you wanted, however you DID get a refund, so you were not robbed nor scammed.

And no, your "jet rocketing animals in risky conditions style", even when life involves a bit of risk is not justification for your bad attitude toward the seller and this Bad Guy thread. You are not jet rocketing anything anywhere.

Yes, life does involve risk, you are correct. The key is to NOT take any risks that are questionable and could be regretted later. Every single person has to gauge their actions and the possible consequences of those actions.

Alex Hutchison weighed the risk and possible consequences and he chose not to risk the well-being of his animals, despite your alleged waiving of a live-arrival guarantee. Hell, your waiving a live-arrival guarantee speaks volumes in and of itself about you and how you care about your animals. Duh.

You got a full refund, he should have a clean conscience. End of discussion

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Alex Hutchinson did that gecko and himself a huge favor. Alex, to me personally, this is effectively no different than a "Good Guy" thread for you. Especially after seeing it play out.

Jo Nathan Kingfisher did the entire viewing audience a Saturn-V-sized favor, although not with intention.

 

[Lucille]

Most my animals are for non-invasive research.

Given your attitude about risk and death, if your claim about 'research' is true, it is a disturbing thought.

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

Yeah, the matter is definitely done
and well worked over.
Opinions are clear

Underground Reptile just shipped
me a few good Tokays
in good shape
in similar weather
and they could get me some more
in worse conditions.

 

[Mike Schultz]

Beware Of Buyer thread

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

It is over!
I'm over it.
I'm sure he is over it.

I hope that specific Bluegreen tokay
has raised in value.

I hope Tokays in general are raising in value.

I was frustrated at loosing such a nice deal,
it was fun and entertaining
to hash it out with some creative pondering
about some internal inconsistencies
with the pet trade.

You can buy $5 "feeder" geckos
shipped anywhere to be chewed up and swallowed
by your favorite pet or your friend's favorite pet.
You all don't blink twice at that.

You can buy a Tokay for $7

If you breed nice colors you can sell yours for $700

You can clone your favorite pet for $100,000
from the Koreans.

You hire FedEx or SpaceX to "unethically"
risk and endanger your animals
anytime you got the money.

The value of the life
and biology of the animal is the same.

I think the real prick here is the insecurity
that any social business obligation
or limit or boundry
might infringe on individual seller freedom.

people get really angry
when you suggest they should
be limited in personal freedom
in any way.

I'm more ethical because I do not risk my animals
in shipping them out.

Am I a hypocrite because I do ship them here
in adverse conditions? I'll think about that.

I guess it was selfish to risk a tokay
that I felt was worth $400 - $600
because I was getting him for $100 shipped.

Makes sense the seller did want to let him go.

The only people I rail against here
is the angry mob full of personal insults.

It was a business complaint
and then I'm accused
of "stabbing with a knife"
and "mistreating my animals"
and everything in between

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE

If you self-interested sellers were not so slanderous
and malicious in your own minds
it all would be a lot more creative and funny.

I ain't even going to bring in genetic engineering...

thanks for watching
nothing more to see here
move along
sorry a can't help you
It is over!

 

[Liveforthis]

This is weird...

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

Sorry I can't help you

 

[Chris Kennard]

I'd like to see some one post any and all correspondence with regard to the deal. I'm shocked nobody asked for that yet! Or did I miss something. Any texts? Emails? Was the money refunded at the same time the deal was ended? Money was taken by the seller. If he wasn't comfortable shipping because of the weather, why not just delay until a more suitable day?

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

Done and over with

 

[Insomniac101]

We know who each other are now.

Well, we know who you are, and I think this community is relieved to find that out now.

And should anyone forget, BOI threads are permanent, and searchable.

Kathy

 

[Jo Nathan Kingfisher]

and the snark attack drags on....

It's just a last word contest now,
just a visual written open mic night.

I'm done with it.
It has become trite.

You can say your opinion
and you know what they say opinions are like.