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Allen Belcher / Big Daddy's Wholesale ... WARNING

HiddenHollowHerp said:
How on earth do you know how old I am? (Probably a stupid question, I'm just curious).

I've got money in the bank which I recently inherited from someone very, very important to me. I was told to spend it carefully, so I decided against the condo in Hawaii (although I will admit, it's not THAT much money).

You're probably right about people trying to help me, but if you haven't noticed, I have some sort of freakish barrier in my head which prevents me from thinking that anyone other than me is correct.. About everything.

What is this thread about again? Oh yeah.
SO HOW ABOUT THAT ALLEGED HULLABALOO WITH ED & JOHN?

Scandalous~
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April17,1988
 
Quote JasBalls:
I love how you just worked there and did nothing.. I would have Punched the Fucker in the nuts and called the cops on his ass.. But, You stayed with him how long? What a tard!
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You ain't Clint Eastwood, and this ain't Dirty Harry.
Allen has had the authorities at his facility and was not charged with any crime.
If Bryon had punched him in the nuts and called the cops like you suggest he would have been arrested for Battery.

He could have punched him in the nuts and quit, hoping that Allen would not call the police himself. Then again he could have handled it many different ways. I guess he handled it the way he felt was right.

As long as we are saying how we would have handled it, here goes. I would have let Allen know what was bothering me, and that it needed to be addressed or else...(I was going to quit, had taken pics and would do an expose on the BOI, was going to punch him in the nuts, or whatever I was really considering handling the situation.) I would have offered to work extra hours to make sure the enclosures were cleaned since Allen was understaffed. If he were not willing or able to pay the extra cash for the hours I would have suggested that any extra hours could be paid with animals, breeder loans, rats, etc.
 
RJK890 said:
You ain't Clint Eastwood, and this ain't Dirty Harry.
Allen has had the authorities at his facility and was not charged with any crime.
If Bryon had punched him in the nuts and called the cops like you suggest he would have been arrested for Battery.

He could have punched him in the nuts and quit, hoping that Allen would not call the police himself. Then again he could have handled it many different ways. I guess he handled it the way he felt was right.

As long as we are saying how we would have handled it, here goes. I would have let Allen know what was bothering me, and that it needed to be addressed or else...(I was going to quit, had taken pics and would do an expose on the BOI, was going to punch him in the nuts, or whatever I was really considering handling the situation.) I would have offered to work extra hours to make sure the enclosures were cleaned since Allen was understaffed. If he were not willing or able to pay the extra cash for the hours I would have suggested that any extra hours could be paid with animals, breeder loans, rats, etc.
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So R Kelly would take animals from Allen and breed them to sell to others? Another not buying from guy.. Thanks for the info foo!
 
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So R Kelly would take animals from Allen and breed them to sell to others? Another not buying from guy.. Thanks for the info foo!
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If you read the thread you would have known that I have gotten animals from Allen. I had three positive trade deals with Allen and do plan on breeding the animals that I have received from him.
I will be selling/trading any animals that I produce and do not keep for myself. I do not hide or lie about the origin of my animals, and if someone does not want my animals because I have snakes from Allen in my collection that is fine. Someone else will.

It has just come out that Allen and John Martino are partners on several breeding projects and buy, sell, and trade from/with each other.
Ed Clark, and many other's have been flipping animals for Allen and John for years.
How many collections does that mean have some kind of connection to Allen's? Maybe even yours...
 
While I have said and will continue to back up the stance I have in regards to not doing business with Allen directly, I am not a fool. I understand that this business while large in some eyes is actually a very small trade and for me to think that it would be impossible not to get animals that were somehow tied to Allen is unreasonable. He does produce a lot of animals, and I'm sure has a lot of happy customers. He has however taken the Morph King route by selling his inventory at less than average prices. One thing though, Wess would have never let his cages get as nasty or let his animals get in that kind of shape.
 
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Atlas511 said:
sooo what is Allen like today? any changes or recent transations/trades/visits?
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Same ole Allen who thinks everyone is just picking on him :rolleyes:.Still to this day denies he ever had a IBD problem no matter what someone else has shown proof of.So in all someone to avoid in my opinion :yesnod:
 
Wasn't he trying to sell out?

I thought I had read that....or maybe it was just wishful thinking. :shrug01:
 
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Atlas511 said:
would you say his animals are not safe to bring into a collection even aftre a long quarentine?
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Well just like i stated in my return pm to you.If someone on my block had ANY of his snakes i would move!!! Why waste your time and money there are tons of breeders that do not have IBD problems.Why do you think he cuts these "deals" to people? He thinks by you saving money it will distract you enough to believe him.The truth is here forever and he knows it!
 
Atlas511 said:
would you say his animals are not safe to bring into a collection even aftre a long quarentine?
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Who cares. Why would you want to support a known scumbag? Just because they save you a couple of bucks? It is people like you that keep scumbags and scam artists in business.
 
His "deals" aren't deals ~ in the long run you will be paying more when your collection comes down with something due to his collection having running illnesses that he tries to cover up again and again.
 
GET A LIFE

You guys are a JOKE. With all the snakes that I sell if I had a problem with any disease ESPECIALLY IBD it would have put alot of BIG names and small guys and even myself out of this industry years ago. Find me anyone that has bought a snakes from me in the past 1-2 years that has had any problem. In that time period I have sold over 800 ball pythons, over 1300 retics and burmese and over 400 boas. I have had 2 snakes die due to stress in shipping ( problems that were out of my control) I made both sales good and have not had any other issues at all.
Most of you have not and never will do any business with me and that's fine. If you want to steer some others not to do business with me that's fine. But the thing that grates me is that when someone does business with me and tells their side of the story they are publically raped on this site for doing so. It is a JOKE how some of you only want one side of the story to be told and how as a small group here continue to gang up on individuals who have a different opinion about me.

RICH allowing a small group of people to manipulate this site is why the business end of this site is struggeling. You have made it known that without the industrys help this site will not continue to be around as you can not continue to keep dumping money into it! This site can be a very effective tool for this industry. I have even used this site to help get the word out on a few myself. I will put my money where my mouth is and state, If you are interested in getting serious about using this site for the good of all and stop the good for some. I would be willing pledge money to you for the purpose of keeping this site going, or I would even entertain discussion with you on buying the site.
I would like for you to respond to me in either email [email protected]
or by phone 706-615-4772

Back to the topic at hand I too would be upset and disturbed if my snakes were housed in the condictions the pics show. No one can successfully breed snakes and continue to be in the industry if the snakes are not properly cared for and housed correctly. I am looking foward to another huge season. I am expecting to produce several thousand snakes this season. Also I have already brokered another investment that is not reptile related and have already started down sizing my collection. I will still be in the industry I will however not be producing thousands of babies, just a few hundred.

As I have stated before if you all knew who all I sold to it would make you feel so silly. I know for a fact some of you deal with people who buy from me. Don't for one minute think that because someone is big in this industry that they don't run out of product from time to time and need something. Also keep in mind that they're alot of people who still are middlemen and women in this industry.

For the mods, Make sure Rich is aware of my request here, Please and Thank you.

Allen Belcher 706-615-4772
 
big daddy's wholesal said:
Find me anyone that has bought a snakes from me in the past 1-2 years that has had any problem.
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Allen,

It was how you handled things prior to the last 1-2 years that earned you the reputation you have. You got enough horse sense about you to know that once trust is broken that it takes a long time to earn it back.

But if you truly are trying to run your business by a higher standard now, then my hat is off to you.
 
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