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Hello,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I did a trade with a guy named Allen Williams, of Allen Exotics. The trade was his Adult Female Albino for my baby Male Peid. He insisted I ship first. So, I did ( nervously ). Well the very next day he called to let me know it arrived, and promptly shipped out his end of the deal, and at 11am the following day, his Albino arrive, in great health. Very nice guy!

:thumbsup:
 
a plus

Yeah, I just had a legit trade with this guy to... Only thing was the snake arrived dead, and I called him.. he sent me another pinstripe female, and the next day I got a box of 100 frozen small Rats from him and a letter apologizing. ( Even though it was something with the FedEX... His shipping package was great )
 
While I'm at it.

Cutting Edge Exotics
24.210.153.13

LAWReptiles
24.210.153.13

Also you messed up in this ad.

Young Ball Pythons (New Carlisle)
Date: 2008-08-24, 6:09PM EDT
I've got about a bunch of young Ball Pythons I'm looking to rehome. I need to make some room for other breeding projects, etc. For the Normal Ball Pythons I am asking a small rehoming fee of 30.00$ for Males, and 35.00$ for Females. If interested you can see pictures on my website at Lawreptiles.tripod.com ( no " www. " )

Thanks so much

Matt Williamson

Email: [email protected]
Phone: 937-673-4481
Thanks so much
Matt Williamson
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 937-673-4481
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You used your Law Reptiles User Name but signed the ad with the name Matt Williamson from your Cutting Edge Exotics profile. Instead of the name Matt Beamer.
 
Man, Allen gave me two references and both of them turned out to be Allen just via different email addresses.

I think I'm most disappointed in myself because I was suspicious of that. Both references responded within 45 minutes of my emailing them and so I sent this to Allen:

Well both guys responded with rave reviews so either you're legit or you control all three email accounts

Just didn't really think I was right...

Chris
 
HAH, I thought this guy seemed shady when he emailed me wanting to trade, saying he was on the BOI, when I checked they were bothnew post's and he wanted me to ship first. See below.

Love to trade after I look you up I wont mind shipping first. Can i get a couple of pics?
Thanks
Luke.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Message about: 08 spiders and Black Pastel males SALE
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:13 AM


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Hello,
Would you be interested in trading your Black Pastel, for a Female ( 08 )
Mojave? If interested let me know. I do not ship first on trades, but I have
great references, and also posts about me on the BOI @ Fauna.

Thanks

Allen

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He was hitting several folks with the same scenario on a couple of other forums.
Sounds like you caught on and didn't send anything.

Hello,
Would you be interested in trading your Black Pastel, for a Female ( 08 )
Mojave? If interested let me know. I do not ship first on trades, but I have
great references, and also posts about me on the BOI @ Fauna.

Thanks

Allen
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I just cannot believe all the scam artists out in this field! When I first got into reptiles 28 years ago everyone was open and honest. Now with the internet 50% of the people you talk with are not legit with what they are selling. If you are looking for a female Super Tiger Retic,for example that is the sex of what they have! Then when you get it shipped to you it probes 100% all male! I would never ship first on any deal except to well established businesses. If it sounds to good it is a scam most of the time!!! Just go with your gut instinct when making deals and much of what is threaded about on this sight would not come to pass. Don't swim with sharks because you will get bit!
 
All this scamming and planning and plotting that this Allen fellow does sure does seem like a lot of work. Way too much work. It's easier just to not rip people off and conduct yourself honestly. As far as scammers in this field goes, there are no more scammers here then in any other business, especially on internet businesses. The old days do seem to have been a lot more relaxed though. Most of the time you met face to face. Other times you talked on the phone and ended up mailing the animals, usually after having met face to face. But in this sped up world of ours, internet commerce is the way to go now, at least when dealing with people far away. But it still seems a lot easier to do an honest business deal then all this work ripping people off. This guy is a fool. Now someone needs to have him busted and made an example of. Just my thought on the whole deal.
 
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