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This is Alpine, a Kahl strain albino. He's the son of Lemondrop, my big '98 albino girl. Pics were taken indoors with no flash. He’s going to get his first shot at a lady this season but I think I am more excited than he is. heh
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I named him Alpine because he always had a very white head, even when he started turning yellow and losing the color in his saddles. Now over the last 6 months, his head has been turning pink!
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It’s quite hard to capture the colors, soft pinks and oranges… oh well, you all know that song and dance. I know, nothing all that special, but he's quite special to me since he was from my first litter of boas.

Thanks for looking!
-April
 
That was quite a first litter of boas April, he is good looking. I have been blanked on the albinos, been trying to breed sunglows since 2004/2005, got het albino hogg island crosses in 2005/2006, blanked in 2006/2007 and in 2007/2008. I have 1.1 het sunglows and 1.1 albinos, all adults and I have tried het x albino and albino x albino, with no luck!! What is your secret???? My albino karma has not been good.
 
Laura, yup, I am getting pretty excited too! The time draws near... :)

Alex, Not sure if it's a secret, I think it was just luck, the boas did the hard part. heh Actually it wasn't a good litter, she dropped premature, 18 live and 8 stillborn. All stillborn were albino. Of the 9 albinos and 9 hets born alive, only 2 albinos and 2 hets survived. I bred her with a het albino, both were from PK originally. The het was a big boy. Here's some pics of them getting to know each other:
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Here she is about a couple weeks before giving birth:
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And here is a pic of her giving birth, she wasn't too happy with me snapping pics, so it's the only one I got
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I just followed the boa constrictor manual as best I could and they did the rest. I may pair this girl up again this year to an unrelated hypo but I might give her another season off.
Good luck with your pairs!
-April
 
Boa4u said:
That was quite a first litter of boas April, he is good looking. I have been blanked on the albinos, been trying to breed sunglows since 2004/2005, got het albino hogg island crosses in 2005/2006, blanked in 2006/2007 and in 2007/2008. I have 1.1 het sunglows and 1.1 albinos, all adults and I have tried het x albino and albino x albino, with no luck!! What is your secret???? My albino karma has not been good.
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Alex, did they slug out? Or did you not produce any albino's at all?

We hit gold this year. Bryon bought 2.2 pos 66% bloods from Tom Burke and raised them for 4 years. We bred them last year and she threw 13 slugs. This year he paired the same 2 and got 2 stills, 3 pos. hets and a visual!
 

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Boa4u said:
That was quite a first litter of boas April, he is good looking. I have been blanked on the albinos, been trying to breed sunglows since 2004/2005, got het albino hogg island crosses in 2005/2006, blanked in 2006/2007 and in 2007/2008. I have 1.1 het sunglows and 1.1 albinos, all adults and I have tried het x albino and albino x albino, with no luck!! What is your secret???? My albino karma has not been good.
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We set timers on our breeder racks & cages. They turn the heat off at night for 8 hours and I set the room AC & heater for 75 degrees. Worked really well for us last season.
 
That's a nice looking boy you got April. Looks to be retaining a bit of his color too. That's always a good thing since so many lose most of it. I got one of Aurora's babies from '06 that also is retaining a bit more color then her mom. Hoping that will pass on to some of the Sunglows she's destined to make for me. :yesnod:

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She also has a lot of those very subtle pinks showing through, and naturally, it's hard to capture them. Makes me wonder if there ain't more potential in some of these older albino genes then people think. :shrug01:

Thanks for sharing. It's great seeing another older adult Albino out there, and what they have produced. Seems most people don't show too many pictures of them.

Rick
 
Laura Fopiano said:
Alex, did they slug out? Or did you not produce any albino's at all?

We hit gold this year. Bryon bought 2.2 pos 66% bloods from Tom Burke and raised them for 4 years. We bred them last year and she threw 13 slugs. This year he paired the same 2 and got 2 stills, 3 pos. hets and a visual!
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Laura, they did not slug out, for the most part they just did not produce any babies at all. So in 2005/2006 I put my best male breeder, which happened to be a Hogg Island Boa to my Albino female and got 100% Het Hogg Island Crosses. So at least I proved that my female albino can breed. So that leaves 1.1 Het Sunglows and 1.0 Albinos that have yet to breed in different combinations. I actually have some pics somewhere of my male albino with a hemi inserted into my female Albino, I forget what year it was, and she did not produce that breeding season. But my frustrations there have been offset with some success elsewhere.

I also "hit gold this year". I had a Salmon 66% het Blood and a Normal 66% het Blood that I purchased from Rich Ihle. I bred them and came up with a pretty interesting litter:

An Anery
A Ghost Boa
A Blood Boa
A Bloody Salmon Boa
and a Pewter Boa

So my possible het bloods ended up being 100% het bloods and 100% het anerys. The litter was perfect, 13 perfect babies, no defects, no stillborns, no slugs. I will post some pics in the next couple of days
 
BryonsBoas said:
We set timers on our breeder racks & cages. They turn the heat off at night for 8 hours and I set the room AC & heater for 75 degrees. Worked really well for us last season.
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Bryon, thanks for the tip. I have tried that method also and I have had my other boas breed with that method and without that method. The 1.0 albino and the 1.1 het sunglows just don't seem to like anything I have tried. I am a little leary of varing the temps, even if only on a night drop, because if have had some respiratory issues with some of my crew, especially the .1 het sunglow that will not reveal if she is actually a her or not for lack of any babies produced.
 
By the way.........

Laura Fopiano said:
Alex, did they slug out? Or did you not produce any albino's at all?

We hit gold this year. Bryon bought 2.2 pos 66% bloods from Tom Burke and raised them for 4 years. We bred them last year and she threw 13 slugs. This year he paired the same 2 and got 2 stills, 3 pos. hets and a visual!
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Laura and Bryon, congrats on the blood boa!! I know I was thrilled to see some possible hets prove out, as you all must have been.
 
Aurora's daughter is gorgeous! So much color and I love her circle back pattern. I'm pretty happy Alpine kept some color, the mom is pretty much just a big banana snake (as you can see in those pics lol)... I'm going to try Alpine with my high-pink normal and hope to make some colorful hets. I think a lot of people don't post pics of adult albinos because they lose so much color... I hardly see pics of adult albinos, snows or even sunglows (unless the glows are still very colorful). I figure the big yellow snake outcome isn't the best for baby sales or something. Personally, I like the deep soft yellows that they get.
 
April Yohn said:
Aurora's daughter is gorgeous! So much color and I love her circle back pattern. I'm pretty happy Alpine kept some color, the mom is pretty much just a big banana snake (as you can see in those pics lol)... I'm going to try Alpine with my high-pink normal and hope to make some colorful hets. I think a lot of people don't post pics of adult albinos because they lose so much color... I hardly see pics of adult albinos, snows or even sunglows (unless the glows are still very colorful). I figure the big yellow snake outcome isn't the best for baby sales or something. Personally, I like the deep soft yellows that they get.
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Thank You! I call her Lady Morrigana, after the Celtic Goddess of War. She was the only one of the litter that bit me at birth or since. And I mean, AT BIRTH, minutes out of her sac. :yesnod: And a couple of few times since. Just like her mom was when young, anything moving is food. LOL She's all calm as can be now. ;) She'll be 3 in April.
And why not show off a big ol' yellow banana Albino. I show off all my critters, just like the children they are. Seems sorta natural after putting all the effort into raising them. :shrug01: Different strokes i guess.

I think Alpine would go nice with a high pink normal. Keep all the best Hets after a couple sheds of course, and put a females back to dad when the time comes, maybe a nice high colored het that ain't related to the males. You'll probably get some nice colorful albinos.
 
BTW, it still amazes me. I do nothing to my Boas, and it seems to work. Health and maturity is all it takes.

Well, getting them together to do what nature programmed them to do, helps. I think. :D
 
crotalusadamanteus said:
BTW, it still amazes me. I do nothing to my Boas, and it seems to work. Health and maturity is all it takes.

Well, getting them together to do what nature programmed them to do, helps. I think. :D
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Tried that. Got squat.

Laura and Bryon, congrats on the blood boa!! I know I was thrilled to see some possible hets prove out, as you all must have been.
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Thanks. I almost fell down the steps trying to close the snake building door when I found her.

Congrats on your list wantables as well.
 
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