And you all wonder why I have to make the restrictions I do...

[hhmoore]

Actually, yes, since he was a benefactor member he could edit/delete his own posts. I'm sure someone will shed some light on this. I, for one, am willing to wait, lol.

 

[varnyard]

Actually, yes, since he was a benefactor member he could edit/delete his own posts. I'm sure someone will shed some light on this. I, for one, am willing to wait, lol.

It was not me!!! Ask Rich who done it, or better yet go back and read the PMs I posted from Rich, it is all in there.

And if it was Rich, what then Harald? Another excuse?

 

[Jim O]

Bobby would have been gone, but this thread was pretty obviously about the stuff that happened when he decided to leave, so i dont think it fair to ask him to sit and be quiet about that.

You're making an assumption. He's been lurking here quite a bit. Yesterday I saw him looking at a thread that did not directly concern him.

If there were a thread like this and you were the one mentioned, and you said "im done bye" would you just let people keep on talking or mentioning things about you, or what youve done? Probably not.

Another assumption, and this time an incorrect one. You should think hard before you tell me what I would or would not do.


As for the rest of your post, Bobby has made clear that he's "done" here, at least until his next post. Done means done. You know, come to think of it, that's just what the "scammers and scum" he refers to often do. And when he put that big link in his signature line (and it was a BIG LINK ) it was clear what it meant.

And if it was Rich, what then...

Then it was his choice and his site to do with as he pleases. Just what you'd have said if it was some scum or scammer.

Remember, there is no free speech protection on this, or necessarily on any site. It is always at the discretion of the site's owner.

 

[hhmoore]

It was not me!!! Ask Rich who done it, or better yet go back and read the PMs I posted from Rich, it is all in there.

And if it was Rich, what then Harald? Another excuse?

There you go again, Bobby. If you scroll up just a few posts, you'll see this:
Quote (from Rich, in the PMs which I had already read):
"Sorry, I'm just not going to allow you nor anyone else to spitefully post signposts here pointing to other sites they wish people would follow them off to."
Then, as an offering (from me) of what might have happened:

A hint, perhaps? Did he make note of what forum he would be playing on in that post?
Hell, just to throw out the other option (since he didn't mention that one as being deleted), maybe he deleted it himself.
I guess to be fair, I should ask this one, too: OK, what happened to Bobby's goodbye post?

so, you see, I already suggested one possible reason why Rich (or one of the other mods) might have deleted it, threw out the possibility that you could have, AND THEN came right out and asked what happened to the post. I'm not making excuses for anybody or anything. Nor, to the best of my knowledge, have I stuck my foot in my mouth

 

[varnyard]

I will say this, I have never seen Rich admit when he was wrong, never, have you? I see a long drawn out post to prove he is always right, but never admission of anything wrong. Is he the only perfect one here?

As for putting a website in my signature, it this not done by everyone Harald? Even you?

So I am 100% wrong? Ok, sure!! Where is right from wrong, does it even exist here at all anymore, if so, I do not see it.

So I did not know he pulled the stickies, I assumed he deleted them, I was wrong, I can admit it. However he did delete my leaving post, there was not anything in there directed to hurt this site or him. Now you and JimO try to act like I can not post to defend myself, this is all about me, remember?

When exactly was it that the rules changed where no one can defend themselves? Is this what it has come to now? Just cover everything up, it will just go away, right?

 

[Jim O]

Bobby,

If you want to "defend" yourself, have at it. Just don't keep saying you're out of here and then come back.

 

[varnyard]

Bobby,

If you want to "defend" yourself, have at it. Just don't keep saying you're out of here and then come back.

I have no problem with that Jim, if my name was not brought up every other post. I mean, it makes it a bit hard to just walk away while my name is under attack.

 

[norsmis]

As for putting a website in my signature, it this not done by everyone Harald? Even you?

Yes it has Bobby but, as Rich told you, when it is done maliciously, it will be deleted.

When exactly was it that the rules changed where no one can defend themselves? Is this what it has come to now? Just cover everything up, it will just go away, right?

Who is stopping you from defending yourself? You are the one that said you were done with this site but you are still here.
I am by no means speaking for Jim, but he said

"As for the rest of your post, Bobby has made clear that he's "done" here, at least until his next post. Done means done. You know, come to think of it, that's just what the "scammers and scum" he refers to often do."

 

[hhmoore]

I'm not covering anything up - I'm asking questions. I didn't see the signature line that got deleted, nor did I see your farewell post, so I really can't comment (except to parrot Rich's explanation of why he deleted your signature/link. I'll guess from that statement that the link was not to your business webpage, but to an online forum. If that is the case, you are making an apples :: oranges type comparison.

Again - I am not laying any blame where it is not deserved. You falsely accused Rich of deleting a number of posts - I found them all through the use of the search function. I then asked questions about who had unstuck the threads, and what had happened to your other post. If you see that as a coverup, a statement of blame (100% your fault), or dissuading you from defending yourself, you really need to step back and take a break.

 

[hhmoore]

I think I feel the answers coming from above
(Rich is here, and replying)

 

[varnyard]

Yes it has Bobby but, as Rich told you, when it is done maliciously, it will be deleted.

Do you call this malicious as well?

Midwest Colubrids
www.midwestcolubrids.com

It was no different than this.

Nothing in that post was malicious at all. All I said was I would not be posting in those forums any longer, if anyone had any questions or comments about my threads they could email me. Now where exactly is that an attack?

 

[hhmoore]

Bobby - if you don't mind, please PM me with info on the signature that was deleted.
Thanks

 

[varnyard]

Bobby - if you don't mind, please PM me with info on the signature that was deleted.
Thanks

varnyard, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

 

[Jim O]

It was no different than this.

Bobby, please don't play innocent...or dumb. It's beneath you, way beneath you. It was in a large, bold, navy font similar to what I posted before. It was not a simple link, it was a signature that made a statement.

 

[varnyard]

Bobby, please don't play innocent...or dumb. It's beneath you, way beneath you. It was in a large, bold, navy font similar to what I posted before. It was not a simple link, it was a signature that made a statement.

I am not Jim, that is all it said, it was not in any violation of any rules.

 

[Dennis Hultman]

I then asked questions about who had unstuck the threads,

The answer could be as simple as a not being a forum moderator you don’t have the ability to sticky a thread. Bobby thought they were deleted and in return deleted his pictures, which prompted this thread.

A series of misunderstandings.

 

[varnyard]

It was not over three lines either, that is the rules. Or is that just for some?

 

[varnyard]

It is also not a new site, or not like I just started running it.

varnyard
Varnyard Herps
Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Panama city florida
Posts: 467
Rep Points: 47
Rep Power: 6

Also if you look in the Moderator forums here you will see, I even told Rich this was not the only site I helped run. I have been a Mod for many sites, so whats the point?

 

[WebSlave]

Rich, I have given you every chance to come clean, however you have chose not to do so.

Come clean? You've gotten your panties all wadded up because you disagree with my methods of soliciting help here with moderation, then want to slam the door as hard as you can, several times, to try to call attention to that fact, and leave a signpost and contact info, hoping people will traipse on after you from here.... Tell me Bobby, how many people have you been bad mouthing about me to and trying to get them to follow you on out the door? Speaking of "coming clean".

That said I have a few questions.

Is it not a fact you went into the tegu forums and removed several of my posts long before I deleted any of my pictures?

Threads like Tegu care sheet, Tegu systematics, Breeding tegus, Incubation of tegus, Taming the beast, and lets not forget the thread Tegu give away contest from last year, all deleted before I removed the first picture. One thing I do find rather odd, you left the thread up where I said I would give one away this year. Is that so you can use it against me later on? I have thought long and hard about this, I can not think of a reason for you to leave that one, unless I hit the nail on the head.

Well you certainly hit SOMETHING on the head, but I am pretty certain it wasn't a nail. Obviously you did NOT think long and hard enough about this, otherwise you would have figured it out on your own. Once you resigned your postion (in a huff, no less) as moderator to the tegu discussion forum and started spouting off about being "out of here", I didn't see any reason to keeping those threads of yours stickied up at the top. So I simply removed the sticky status. They were not deleted, they just fell within their proper chronological order within that forum.

I did delete your "door slam" message in the tegu forum for a couple of reasons. One, it really had nothing at all to do with tegus, and it was simply a spiteful hope on your part that members visiting that forum would contact you so you could let them know where to find you on another forum site you admin. Don't EVEN try to pretend that this was not your goal there. We both know better.

Now, you can do as you please with your new admin duties on another site, but don't expect me to help you. Yes, lots of people do advertise their sites via signature areas and the like, and I don't have a problem with it. But when a member turns around to spit in my face as they are walking out, well sorry, but I'm really not inclined to help you in your quest to drag people along with you from here. Which, of course, is why I deleted that HUGE lettered signpost in your signature area. Seriously, do you really think that was appropriate? Speaking of "coming clean", of course.

Speaking of which, does the owner of your new site realize how you act when you disagree with procedures and protocols of the site owner? A pissed off admin can do a tremendous amount of damage in a very short time. I do hope he is aware of the danger you pose to his site with this spiteful exit attitude you are displaying here. Personally I would be EXTREMELY concerned about it if I were in his shoes.

Then I pulled my pictures. I also take it back rich, you did not edit my posts, you just removed them completely. Keep the hunderd bucks, it was a lesson well learned. It shows the true nature of people I did have a world of respect for.

Have you learned any other lessons, now, Bobby? Like perhaps the one that goes, "Please remember to engage your brain before engaging your lips." Seems to me you are having difficulties in this department lately. Maybe if you had engaged your brain, you could have just ASKED me about it instead of thinking you could come on here and beat your fists against your tarzan like chest, showing the world "Hey I caught WebSlave doing a dastardly deed to me! Look! Look!!"

Bobby, you have apparently become a loose cannon. Ever since your rep took a hit with the adenovirus fiasco, you are looking for a target, ANY target, to try to regain face. So now you have set your sights on me and this site, in the hopes that will help. Big deal, you disagree with my methods here. Is that really the motivator you have made it out to be to go ranting off into the sunset? I think some introspection is in order for you to try to figure out just why you are going off half cocked lately.

Lets not forget this:



Yet Ed, is still hitting the buttons behind this crap, hit me with some more bad Karma, Ed, but don't think what you do now will not fall on your head later on. It all rolls down hill in the end.

Sorry, I'm not bothering to quote whatever it is you are referring to. But obviously something about Ed.

Get over it Bobby, you are out of here remember? It no longer concerns you. Your only reason for being here now is to make as much noise as possible and to try to dig up one last stink to prove you are RIGHT about something to everyone.

So I will make this short and sweet. You are an admin on another site. Hooray for you. You are probably pissing and moaning to a lot of people about how I have done you wrong. You have personal issues with other people here, and because of it feel that since I don't side with your opinion, and I can just "cram it up my ass". You want to leave but sure would like to take a bunch of members here with you, and pissed because I don't just bend over and allow you to have your way. Forget about it. I am not inclined to help you with that goal.

I, and no one else here, as far as I know have asked you, or tried to force you, to leave. That is your own decision based on some trumped up reason that has you frothing at the mouth. If you want to leave, then leave. But if you want to stay, take that chip off your shoulder before it gets you tossed out along with it from the way you are carrying on here. Or are you shooting for the eagle scout "banned from Fauna" badge too?

 

[Bill & Amy]

So let me get this straight, this is not appropriate outside the BOI, correct?

Why don't you have a website Ed? You would think you would want to show off all those breeder animals you have.

Is this appropriate outside the BOI?

No Rick, I did not. I bought 2 babies to raise up and decieded to sell 1. why would you ask me a question like this on a for sale ad, you have no intentions to buy! even if you wanted to purchase this lesser I would have to reserve the right to NOT sell to you, this is a serious breeding weapon. you have plenty on joe capones lessers to sell. Sorry rick, I mean unhatched eggs.

I want to know for future postings, where is the line exactly?