Dan Scolaro
New member
This is a warning to sellers that Andy Billings attempted to extort monies for snake he bought months ago and tried to extort funds for snakes he received free and sold to his friends.
I would not recommend selling to this individual.
Andy is a scammer and is only pissed because he was caught in a scam. Andy sold a snake I gave him for FREE to his buddy for $300 dollars and a month later his buddy allowed it to soak and get bumps and he has to refund his friend for the scam he pulled on his own buddy. LOL is all.
My dealings with Andy started in January 2008 when he bought some cb ground boas. Due to weather and at Andy's request, I held them until March 2008 and shipped. Andy reported they arrived in great shape and I never heard from him in weeks/months. A few months later, he bought some egg eating snakes and he reported they arrived great and I never heard from him again.
Later, Andy was so happy with my snakes that months later in August, Andy emailed and said he wanted to buy more egg eating snakes as his others were thriving and he was overjoyed with them. Andy added that the ground boas caught a respiratory at his place and they passed although he did not show me any evidence they passed. None of the other 30 I shipped to several folks ever showed a resp and it was weeks/months after his report they arrived in great shape with no sign of any issue. Despite the guarantee was void at that point, I had many Asian Green Snakes on hand in a breeding group which were long term captives and offered him a free Asian Bush Snake (E. frenata) valued at 300 dollars as he also wanted to buy 1.1 cb 08 egg eating snakes.
Yep, a 300 dollar snake for FREE just to show my appreciation of his continued business and I throw in free snakes all the time for folks.
Andy paid August 31 and on Sept 3rd I shipped him the free frenata and 1.1 baby egg eating snakes. When I shipped, I emailed Andy the tracking number and informed that the red egg eater was in its second shed and strongly advised to not feed it until it sheds as the travel dehydrates snakes and feeding it right away could harm or kill the tiny snake. Andy IGNORED my advice and emailed me the same day he received them that he fed both egg eaters and they ate great and he was very happy. His report was that all of the snakes arrived in great shape. I again advised him it was not a good idea to feed the egg eater that was in shed.
The next day Andy emailed and said he discovered the red egg eater dead. Despite it all, I notified Andy that he would get another for free or a refund for it ($75 is what he paid for it). Andy purchased baby red egg eaters before from me, so I am not even sure the snake he showed in the photo was the one I shipped but took his word for it. We had frequent email conversations afterward about waiting for some egg eaters and some that were here that I was waiting to feed and adjust to captivity.
During this time, Andy emailed with illegal deals. He offered me native snakes from California and I passed on buying them.
A month later (two days ago), I answered the phone and it was some upset and angry person speaking loud and fast named Scott who I did not even know and never sold a snake to. Scott explained that he paid Andy $300 dollars for frenata when it arrived. Scott said it since developed bumps and puked and voiced to extort funds via threats to harm my company via the BOI. I hung up on his threats and phoned him after he calmed down. Scott voiced that the frenata arrived fine as Andy reported but was now in sad shape a month later. He obviously allowed it to soak and it got skin bumps and he said he fed it too much and it puked. I responded it was in perfect shape a month earlier, a year captive that ate from my fingers, and I did informed Andy to never allow any frenata to soak and always offer small food as they are prone to blisters and big meals are not good. I provided a good care sheet to Andy and had no idea Andy sold my gift to his friend. I also advised that they require an open cage with a heat lamp and boxes were not good as the humidity could demise that species quickly with wet paper or water bowl soakings. I also told Scott that I gave the snake to Andy for free and I did not understand why he (Scott) was after me for any $300 dollars? Once Scott learned that Andy was given the snake for free, he apologized for bothering me for the call. Regardless, it seems Andy scammed his friend for $300 dollars for the free snake I gave Andy. Scott then handed the phone to Andy and we spoke and I told him that despite it all, I would get him an egg eater or refund his 75 dollars but had some and wanted to hold them and watch them eat and grow for a bit and Andy said great.
So far, at this point, I see that Andy was very embarrased that I divulged to his friend that I sent him the snake for free. I was advertising them for $325 and it was obvious that Andy sold it to his friend for $300 dollars.
A day later (yesterday), Andy emails he wants 310 dollars and threatens to extort that amount of funds from me. I do not take kindly to threats or nut case emails like that, so I blocked Andy's email.
Andy's offers for native snakes from California is a violation of the Lacy Act. It is important that the state and federal authorities are aware of Andy's bids to break the law. Sorry Andy, but your gig is up. Now you can deal with the badge as I have your email offers to sell me the native snakes.
Andy also is making a 200 dollar claim on paypal that he did not receive what he ordered which is a lie.
Andy is a scammer and got caught scamming his own friend Scott.
Andy gets a thumbs down as a buyer.
I would not recommend selling to this individual.
Andy is a scammer and is only pissed because he was caught in a scam. Andy sold a snake I gave him for FREE to his buddy for $300 dollars and a month later his buddy allowed it to soak and get bumps and he has to refund his friend for the scam he pulled on his own buddy. LOL is all.
My dealings with Andy started in January 2008 when he bought some cb ground boas. Due to weather and at Andy's request, I held them until March 2008 and shipped. Andy reported they arrived in great shape and I never heard from him in weeks/months. A few months later, he bought some egg eating snakes and he reported they arrived great and I never heard from him again.
Later, Andy was so happy with my snakes that months later in August, Andy emailed and said he wanted to buy more egg eating snakes as his others were thriving and he was overjoyed with them. Andy added that the ground boas caught a respiratory at his place and they passed although he did not show me any evidence they passed. None of the other 30 I shipped to several folks ever showed a resp and it was weeks/months after his report they arrived in great shape with no sign of any issue. Despite the guarantee was void at that point, I had many Asian Green Snakes on hand in a breeding group which were long term captives and offered him a free Asian Bush Snake (E. frenata) valued at 300 dollars as he also wanted to buy 1.1 cb 08 egg eating snakes.
Yep, a 300 dollar snake for FREE just to show my appreciation of his continued business and I throw in free snakes all the time for folks.
Andy paid August 31 and on Sept 3rd I shipped him the free frenata and 1.1 baby egg eating snakes. When I shipped, I emailed Andy the tracking number and informed that the red egg eater was in its second shed and strongly advised to not feed it until it sheds as the travel dehydrates snakes and feeding it right away could harm or kill the tiny snake. Andy IGNORED my advice and emailed me the same day he received them that he fed both egg eaters and they ate great and he was very happy. His report was that all of the snakes arrived in great shape. I again advised him it was not a good idea to feed the egg eater that was in shed.
The next day Andy emailed and said he discovered the red egg eater dead. Despite it all, I notified Andy that he would get another for free or a refund for it ($75 is what he paid for it). Andy purchased baby red egg eaters before from me, so I am not even sure the snake he showed in the photo was the one I shipped but took his word for it. We had frequent email conversations afterward about waiting for some egg eaters and some that were here that I was waiting to feed and adjust to captivity.
During this time, Andy emailed with illegal deals. He offered me native snakes from California and I passed on buying them.
A month later (two days ago), I answered the phone and it was some upset and angry person speaking loud and fast named Scott who I did not even know and never sold a snake to. Scott explained that he paid Andy $300 dollars for frenata when it arrived. Scott said it since developed bumps and puked and voiced to extort funds via threats to harm my company via the BOI. I hung up on his threats and phoned him after he calmed down. Scott voiced that the frenata arrived fine as Andy reported but was now in sad shape a month later. He obviously allowed it to soak and it got skin bumps and he said he fed it too much and it puked. I responded it was in perfect shape a month earlier, a year captive that ate from my fingers, and I did informed Andy to never allow any frenata to soak and always offer small food as they are prone to blisters and big meals are not good. I provided a good care sheet to Andy and had no idea Andy sold my gift to his friend. I also advised that they require an open cage with a heat lamp and boxes were not good as the humidity could demise that species quickly with wet paper or water bowl soakings. I also told Scott that I gave the snake to Andy for free and I did not understand why he (Scott) was after me for any $300 dollars? Once Scott learned that Andy was given the snake for free, he apologized for bothering me for the call. Regardless, it seems Andy scammed his friend for $300 dollars for the free snake I gave Andy. Scott then handed the phone to Andy and we spoke and I told him that despite it all, I would get him an egg eater or refund his 75 dollars but had some and wanted to hold them and watch them eat and grow for a bit and Andy said great.
So far, at this point, I see that Andy was very embarrased that I divulged to his friend that I sent him the snake for free. I was advertising them for $325 and it was obvious that Andy sold it to his friend for $300 dollars.
A day later (yesterday), Andy emails he wants 310 dollars and threatens to extort that amount of funds from me. I do not take kindly to threats or nut case emails like that, so I blocked Andy's email.
Andy's offers for native snakes from California is a violation of the Lacy Act. It is important that the state and federal authorities are aware of Andy's bids to break the law. Sorry Andy, but your gig is up. Now you can deal with the badge as I have your email offers to sell me the native snakes.
Andy also is making a 200 dollar claim on paypal that he did not receive what he ordered which is a lie.
Andy is a scammer and got caught scamming his own friend Scott.
Andy gets a thumbs down as a buyer.
I just hate to see bad things happen over a misunderstanding or miscommunication if that's the case.
as and expect the two sides to work it out somehow.