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Good Guy Andrew Schnell username aschnell, Great Guy!!!!

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I have done business a number of times with Andrew, and thought it about time I write up a good guy post for him. :)

I have bought a number of animals from him, and me and him have worked other deals on buying other animals together. I have never had any problems sending or recieving money from him, nor have I ever had any problems sending him or recieving animals from him. All the animals I have gotten from him have been in perfect health, and have some of the best appitite's and growth rates of all the animals I own.

Andrew's knowldge of how to care for the sepcies, and knowldge of geckos in general is top notch, and he was been a great help to me when it comes to leachianus.

Buy with confidence from Andrew Schnell! You will not regret it!!

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I have not personally dealt with Andrew as of yet, but I've talked with him a few times about his animals and every time he was polite and helpful and even referred me to you, Brian. Andrew is a great guy from what I've seen and I hope to do business with him in the future, maybe next year ;)
 
I've been keeping up with that thread and honestly I think who cares. He's got his own reasons for his actions, but overall even after seeing that thread, he seems to be a good guy, knows his stuff, and cares about his animals. We all make mistakes. He should've checked the BOI, yes, but you know what, that's his fault for not checking if something does happen. He learns from it. If he lied about it, again, that's for him to know about. He made a deal with someone, is trying to fix it, and probably didn't want everyone to know about it. I really don't give two craps though. The type of people he deals with doesn't matter to me since he's a very reputable breeder, nice and knowledgeable guy overall, and has very nice animals.
 
kkreptiles said:
I really don't give two craps though. The type of people he deals with doesn't matter to me since he's a very reputable breeder, nice and knowledgeable guy overall, and has very nice animals.
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Breeder? you are some what confused.:shrug01:

Andrew bought Max from AC then flipped him to Chad for a huge profit, then he lied about it.
 
Ed Clark said:
Andrew bought Max from AC then flipped him to Chad for a huge profit, then he lied about it.
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You've flipped several animals yourself, Ed, so I wouldn't be talking.

And again I don't care. It's not my business - that goes for anyone doing such thing. Once you sell an animal to someone with no contract, you have the right to do as you wish, IMHO. Now if Andrew had a contract with Max, then ok I see a problem.
Unless you come up with a contract stating that you are not allowed to turn around and resell the animal, I see no fault in it. If he wants to lie about it, fine, that's what he wants to do - it'll hurt his reputation, but that's at his stake.
 
Matthew, reselling an animal is not a crime as long as the seller is up front with any info requested. once the lying starts as it did with Andrew then it starts to get shady.
 
Agreed Ed, but there is a point where Andrew can explain his intentions and everything can be healed. Even if a slow process.

IMO, Andrew didn't lie about anything that's gonna sway my wants of buying from him someday. He lied, it's shady, whatever. But no one was hurt, the animal isn't hurt.. Max may never be returned, but that's the risk Andrew took and that's the risk he has to deal with himself.
 
I believe that Andrew's main breeding projects are for R. leachianus, not cresties. Not going to fault him on "flipping" - the animals were in his care for several months, they were not turned around quickly.

I do find it a little bit concerning that he lied about having sold the animals, but not enough to make him a "bad guy" in my opinion. Neither does selling animals to a labeled "bad guy" whether or not you've researched them on the BOI.
 
Spyral said:
I do find it a little bit concerning that he lied about having sold the animals, but not enough to make him a "bad guy" in my opinion. Neither does selling animals to a labeled "bad guy" whether or not you've researched them on the BOI.
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This is basically my thoughts on the matter said much more simply.
 
Ed Clark said:
Breeder? you are some what confused.:shrug01:

Andrew bought Max from AC then flipped him to Chad for a huge profit, then he lied about it.
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Andrew did not buy Max from Anthony Caponetto. Max was purchased from Anthony by a friend of Ryan Nefcy's and given to Ryan as "interest" on a loan Ryan had given his friend. This was years ago.... Ryan recently sold max to Andrew.

I don't know what Andrew paid Ryan for Max, but even if he had bought him from AC for the original selling price of $900, he did not resell him for a "huge profit"


I have no Idea why Andrew is being attacked for selling an animal to a "bad guy" I have NEVER done a BOI search on someone i'm selling to. The BOI is here so people don't ripped off, and seeing as I, and just about every other person in the industry does not sell an animal without first getting confirmed payment, its pretty hard to get ripped off as a seller.

Lastly, the thread you linked has nothing whatsoever to do with Andrew, or Max or any of Andrews geckos. The thread is about people Chad "sold" animals to, and the people he ripped off. The fact that Andrew got pulled into that thread is completely ridiculous, and one of the reasons the BOI is a joke. This "lynch mob" mentality people have when they get involved in the BOI does nothing positive for the hobby.

Again, this is a good guy post I decided to start about Andrew after having had many many positive interactions with him. This is not a "hey Andrew sold a few animals to a guy who screwed some other people over in a completely unrelated incident" thread, for such a thread would be pointless....
 
AltitudeExotics said:
I have no Idea why Andrew is being attacked for selling an animal to a "bad guy"
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Clarification real quick: He's being attacked for lying about possession. He had sold Max to Chad but just earlier today, before he admitted Max wasn't in his possession at the moment, he said that he had let Max out on a breeding loan and had him in his possession and he was doing great.

It's just the pure fact he lied that everyone is getting worked up over it, cause they're all wondering why he lied and find it shady :rolleyes:



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You had me cracking up on most of your thread hehe. Well said, Brian.
 
"he said that he had let Max out on a breeding loan and had him in his possession and he was doing great."

**on a breeding loan and had him back now, in his possession, and he was doing great - correction**
 
Brian read Sarah Gilpins PM she received from Andrew, that will give you a clear picture why Andrew is being questioned.

Max did come from AC and he sold him for a $400.00 profit which is huge to me, maybe not so huge to you.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232090

I tried to link directly, wont happen.:(

Anyway it's page 55 post 544 on this thread.
 
And again I'm left to wonder how that has anything to do with anything, least of all either this thread or the one your linked to....
 
AltitudeExotics said:
Andrew did not buy Max from Anthony Caponetto. Max was purchased from Anthony by a friend of Ryan Nefcy's and given to Ryan as "interest" on a loan Ryan had given his friend. This was years ago.... Ryan recently sold max to Andrew.

I don't know what Andrew paid Ryan for Max, but even if he had bought him from AC for the original selling price of $900, he did not resell him for a "huge profit"
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Oops, the profit was $300.00 not $400.00 as I posted previously. still A huge profit to make on a crested gecko.

As long as both parties are happy nothing wrong.

The fact Andrew was caught lying has brought attention to him and the way he does business.
 
I've purchased a gecko from Andrew Schnell and the whole transaction went smoothly.Yosoda is a healthy girl and will be one of my best breeders for the upcoming season. Thanks Andrew.
 
He sold him SEVERAL months after buying him in the first place. He used him as a breeder, then moved on. It happens with every well known breeders. They use stock for a year or a few, then start using their better quality kids they've produced and sell the adult. If Andrew had resold Max VERY soon after he bought him, you can say he flipped them.

The reason he sold Max is his own but I do not see any "flipping" going on anyway.
 
kkreptiles said:
He sold him SEVERAL months after buying him in the first place. He used him as a breeder, then moved on. It happens with every well known breeders. They use stock for a year or a few, then start using their better quality kids they've produced and sell the adult. If Andrew had resold Max VERY soon after he bought him, you can say he flipped them.

The reason he sold Max is his own but I do not see any "flipping" going on anyway.
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Matthew, I agree with everything you said here.Andrew caught lying is what brought attention to him.the PM from him to Sarah Gilpin brought attention to the way he does business.
 
AltitudeExotics said:
And again I'm left to wonder how that has anything to do with anything, least of all either this thread or the one your linked to....
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I do question Ed's motives to be making such a big deal about this... but I do not want to further detail this thread.

The thread was linked, the info is there, people can come to their own conclusions...

(thowing in my $0.02 which just further clutters this up, sorry)
 
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