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Info Andy Garner aka AW2EOD

Once again cryptkeeper, your immaturity is showing, so let's keep this thread on the topic. That is not the same box that I used to ship my 12-13 foot lav tiger to Andy. Andy used the same pillowcase and styrofoam liner that I used. As you can see he cut the styrofoam liner to fit the box that he used. The styrofaom line that I originally sent to him was bigger than that.
 
Angel Rojas said:
Once again cryptkeeper, your immaturity is showing, so let's keep this thread on the topic. That is not the same box that I used to ship my 12-13 foot lav tiger to Andy. Andy used the same pillowcase and styrofoam liner that I used. As you can see he cut the styrofoam liner to fit the box that he used. The styrofaom line that I originally sent to him was bigger than that.
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You get off topic and its okay I do and Im immature. Youd idnt use the same box then why type this?

Angel Rojas said:
All you told me was that you used the same pillowcase and the same styrofoam liner box that I used. And yes I was ok with that, I saw no problem with it, as that was the same styrofoam liner box that Greg Bryant used when he shipped my brother his snakes (for the record, the styrofoam box was in perfect condition when Greg shipped it to my brother, good f'n job Greg)
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Cant keep up with your own replies Angel? What about the pics of the head that is so horrible Angel?
 
Ok, I'm going to maintain the integrity of this thread and not stoop to that level with you. If you read what I said correctly you will see that I NEVER said it was the same BOX. He used the same STYROFOAM BOX that I used. If you have ever shipped a snake or had one shipped to you, you will notice that if you pulled out the styrofoam liner it's actually a STYROFOAM BOX.....:rolleyes:
 
The dimentions of the box that Andy used to ship the snake in are 15x12x10, do you honestly belive that I would ship a 12-13 foot almost 40lb snake in a box that small :rolleyes:
 
I'll say that at least for me, what you were saying made perfect sense in regards to the styrofoam box from you being hacked up and re-used but in a way that resulted in a very poor packing job on the shipment to you.
And as for the most recent pictures, those very clearly show a heavy might infestation clear as day. So as far as Andy claiming the snake didn't have mites when it was packed up and shipped, there is about a 0% chance of that being true. An infestation that bad can't even manage to happen during shipment if a box was damaged and somehow exposed to mites during the shipping process, no way.
Pictures of the injury of the head and neck area would also be good to post here. Best to visually document absolutely every claim you have asap.
 
Actually the redness on his head is gone. I'm light-skinned, so if someone smacks me, I'll be red for a good while but it goes away. So I will chalk that one up to him being thrown around during shipping. And now, for your veiwing pleasure.......I give you a video.....of the so called "puppy dog tame" albino tiger retic that Andy sent me... Now folks I want you to ask yourself this one question, would YOU let a 7 year old girl hold this snake:shrug01:

 
Now if you guys remember my first post, I had no gripe with the temperment of the snake, and trust me I've dealt with worst....lol...It was Andy who brought it up, and I merly posted this to prove him wrong
 
Crypt keeper said:
where are the pics of the head? support your other claim.
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It has an obvious mite problem, and him not "have a bent scale on him" is also a lie. Why are you fighting tooth and nail to make Angel look like a liar? He's proven all original claims but the head rub so far.
 
Just curious, you guys both admitted to shipping via UPS; did you ship through Reptiles Express, or did you both ship those giant snakes in violation of UPS Terms Of Service? :shrug01:
 
That's the most rediculous thing I've see seen.

It looks like you sprinkled oregano on the snake, for Christs sake.

You can zoom in on the clear pics and CLEARLY see that doesn't look like mites, in the slightest. Any new reptile keeper knows better than that.

I must be breeding some kind of crazy, heavy duty super mites.

As I've already said, you can send him back. You refused. Must not be so bad, if you refuse to return him.

I thought we could work this out like grown men, but when you wart doctorin pics with herbs, trying to make menlook bad, I'm pretty sure all hope is lost.
 
Utta said:
It has an obvious mite problem, and him not "have a bent scale on him" is also a lie. Why are you fighting tooth and nail to make Angel look like a liar? He's proven all original claims but the head rub so far.
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dont qoute something that was posted before actual pics to make yourself feel better.
 
Angel Rojas said:
Actually the redness on his head is gone. I'm light-skinned, so if someone smacks me, I'll be red for a good while but it goes away. So I will chalk that one up to him being thrown around during shipping. And now, for your veiwing pleasure.......I give you a video.....of the so called "puppy dog tame" albino tiger retic that Andy sent me... Now folks I want you to ask yourself this one question, would YOU let a 7 year old girl hold this snake:shrug01:

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Jesus Christ man. I feel bad for that snake in your care. You get a snake. Dont even let him settle in and are waving a robe in his face? What do you want a snake to do that is basically being cornerd. You're a jackass. That snake was shipped knopcked around and then in a defensive position and you make hims trioke by Screwing around with him. How dumb are you? Then you say that Andy is a liar for saying the snake is tame as you taunt it? It doesnt even strike for a long time in that video. Then you shove the towel or robe in its face. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I wonder what your reaaction would be If i did that to you. Good snake keeping habits, Lets taunt a stressed out snake to prove a point. Its proved you're an idiot.
 
I shipped directly through UPS. Shipping snakes through UPS is against their policy, and until somebody shows me a waiver, I'll do other wise
 
AW2EOD said:
That's the most rediculous thing I've see seen.

It looks like you sprinkled oregano on the snake, for Christs sake.

You can zoom in on the clear pics and CLEARLY see that doesn't look like mites, in the slightest. Any new reptile keeper knows better than that.

I must be breeding some kind of crazy, heavy duty super mites.

As I've already said, you can send him back. You refused. Must not be so bad, if you refuse to return him.

I thought we could work this out like grown men, but when you wart doctorin pics with herbs, trying to make menlook bad, I'm pretty sure all hope is lost.
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Sorry but unless he went and shoved a bunch of that "oregano" up under the snakes scales then I call bull on that. It looks like exactly what it is, a bunch of nasty little bugs up under the scales with only their :censored:es hanging out.

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Cryptkeeper, please try to keep this topic civil. As I really see no need for your posts. All they are doing is taking up space.
 
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