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Info Andy Garner aka AW2EOD

detretic said:
If I was andy I would be in my truck with your snake coming to get mine back period end of story
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If I were closer, Joe, I'd have been in my car the first day, to retrieve my snake.

And NOW the truth comes out, directly from Angels mouth. How many times did he say that I said I soaked the snake, to get rid out mites?

Thank you, Angel. Just another slip up, on your part, where you lie and hen contradict yourself and the truth comes out.
 
I never said that's what he said. I made that statement because I believe that would be the only reason he would be soaking the snake
 
Angel Rojas said:
Tails unlike Andy, I care for this animal. Since I recieved him I've been treating him with a product know as jurassimite and I've been treating his cage with equate mite bedding spray. It has really been working and they all really seem to be congregating around his head. Andy, noone here has called my character into question, if I recall everyone was asking for better definitive pictures of the mites. The only person who was being a :censored: was Crypt keeper because he has personal problems with me because I called him out on trying to sell a snake 5 days after "rescuing" him. And for the "people" who didn't really think they were mites, after they see my pix, I'm preety sure that they will change their minds. I took the exact same pix that chazzz took of his ATB that had mites. Andy, even at the start of this thread I never asked you for anything. I didn't demand that you pay me X amount of dollars to fix this. At the start I simply stated that I wanted to see how you would handle this. A simple apology would have made you right in my book, at least you would have keep some dignity. But you can't even do that, I would've respected you more as a man if you did. Until this, we were cool. I didn't freak out and come on here and call you a scammer when you didn't ship the snake out to me when you were supposed to, did I......NO...why??? Because you told me that you had some personal problems and that you had to use the money for that. I understood where you were coming from and I felt for you. I shipped my snake out to you first and you didn't ship out for almost 2 and a half weeks later......I trusted you, and this is how you repay my trust, by trying to make others believe that I'm lying about your :censored: up....real sad man
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This above post is so full of crap its not even funny. Had you really truely tried to do what you said You never would had made this thread. Andy has worked with you and never stopped communication with you from what your replies have stated. Had you really honestly 100% been about what you just said you would had called him and fixed this through close doors. Not come on here and paraded it around. Making videos of antaginizing a mean snake you say is kept in a bigger enclosure yet had in a smaller tank for the video. That story is so full of hole sits another story. Your tone has 100% changed ever since you got an infraction from the Mods on this forum. I know you recieved one so dont say you didnt. Had you been calm and collected in every post like the one above nobody would had been in this thread questioning you. Instead you started out sorta professionally then flew off the handle attacking people. Then people started to turn on you and you had to defend yourself. Everything you say you are gonna do has an excuse. EVRYTHING. They have emergency vet places in your area that deal with Reptiles. Tel: (215) 673-1410. She gave me a number to another place that is open on the weekends that has a vet that does herps. If that snake was that bad it needed that type of medical attention it should had been taken. Not when your wallet allows that attention. If you cant afford to pay for snakes when an emergency pops up sell your snakes. Its not fair to them
 
Andy, I don't have to lie about anything. Who in their right mind would belive that lame excuse you gave me. Dehydration during shipping, don't make me laugh. You know that the only reason you was soaking the snake was to try and kill the mites.
 
Most vets will take a post dated check if you are not a new customer... andy are u happy with your snake? Angel Would u be happy if your snake did not have "mites"?
 
Angel Rojas said:
You packing job cause that snake more torment in shipping than my 2 minute video of how puppy dog tame he is, after you come on here and blabed that out. But you didn't mention how the day before when you told me how scared your wife was to pick his :censored: up out the tub cause you was soaking him to try to kill the mites on him. But you come on here and say that you soaked him because you didn't want him to get dehydrated during shipping....lol....Any healthy snake would NEVER get dehydrated just from being shipped over night, what a lame excuse...lol...I wonder how many people ship snakes everyday, then I wonder how many of those people soak the snake because they don't want them to get dehydrated:rofl::
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you never said that he told you it was to kill the mites? that part that is in bold is what you said in a post on page 10 if i remember... you said he told you that, not that you just thought that is why he did it.
 
I didn't attack anyone....You came on here talking crap to me because you have some little personal beef with me. Nothing that you've posted in this thread has been productive. And I would hardly think that a mite infestation is an emergancy. It not life threating and I have been handling and treating it pretty nicely. And I could care less about some infraction that was given to me by a mod for a, as he called it, "Borderline abusive post".
 
detretic said:
Most vets will take a post dated check if you are not a new customer... andy are u happy with your snake? Angel Would u be happy if your snake did not have "mites"?
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Yeah he's happy with his healthy snake that I sent him. He's been posting pix of it all over the other reptile forums.
 
jparker1167 said:
you never said that he told you it was to kill the mites? that part that is in bold is what you said in a post on page 10 if i remember... you said he told you that, not that you just thought that is why he did it.
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He never said that it was to kill the mites. He had told me that day that his wife was soaking the snake and was to afraid to pick him up because he was striking at her. I made the mite reference because I know that that was the only reason that he would be soaking the snake. You are taking it out of context, as this is the BOI and I can't edit my posts. The statement should've been typed this way "But you didn't mention how the day before when you told me how scared your wife was to pick his :censored: up out the tub cause you was soaking him. Probly to try and kill the mites on him."
 
And now that I think about it, this is probly why Andy waited 2 and a half weeks to ship out. He was trying to kill the mites.
 
Well since your dodging the question ill take as a yes... andy sent him a bottle of black Knight and let him look like a fool.... but I know when I get a snake I quarantine and automatically do a mite treatment if I see any or not...but hey that's just me
 
I'm not saying the snake doesn't (now) have mites. My issue this whole time has been trusting those first pictures....these specks just don't look that similar to me....am I crazy?
 

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well angel if you would have said it that way i would not have asked lol... i was going to say it would have been strange if you would have said that he told you that before he shipped the snake.

either way mites sucks but its not the end of the world, everyone gets them now and then. i dont see how any breeding season is screwed up because of mites. good luck to both of you
 
And Crypt keeper, EVERYTHING I said I was going to do, I've done. People asked for better pictures, I provided them. And actually, the number that you posted is the same place that I'm going to take him to on monday. And like I stated before, I truly don't believe that mites is a life threating case, and I have been treating him and I'm getting positive results. TBH, I don't need a vet to tell me something I already know and to tell me how to treat something I've already incountered before as I've been keeping snakes for almost 20 years. The vet report will just soildify my claim. I did what anyone else on here would do if they got a snake from someone with mites.
 
laterob, that's because the majority of them are under his scales, and their little butts are sticking out.
 
Angel Rojas said:
I didn't attack anyone....You came on here talking crap to me because you have some little personal beef with me. Nothing that you've posted in this thread has been productive. And I would hardly think that a mite infestation is an emergancy. It not life threating and I have been handling and treating it pretty nicely. And I could care less about some infraction that was given to me by a mod for a, as he called it, "Borderline abusive post".
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I have zero personal beef with you. That issue was handled after you contiously made yourself look like a child in my threads. You were warned by the mods and you stopped. My thread was still posted without your classless rants. Your posts make it sound worse than it is. 100's and 100's. Im gonna go with was a huge exaggeration just like the head part. Your entire thread was off the wall and as you put you wer eonly looking for an apology. I think you like the drama,. I think you like the attention. You never gave Andy a chance to make anything right before this was posted. You never tried to allow him to do anything. You came here called him out. Ranted like a child. Exaggerated every single claim. Never fully showed 100% of the package job. Attacked people. Thats why you recieved the infraction. Have constantly said this was gonna happen then back tracked and changed the time or day.

Andy has been nothing but cooperative in this thread. Said he was 100% willing to work with you and you continue to try and make his image look bad? Whats your deal? He said take the animal to Vet and get him check out and he would pay for it. He tried to do right and you keep coming back trying to bury him. You couldnt have just been a man to your word and let the VET bill do the talking. Then yous ay you tried to be cool with Andy on the subject. That is a Joke. You have not tried to work with him at all.
 
jparker1167 said:
well angel if you would have said it that way i would not have asked lol... i was going to say it would have been strange if you would have said that he told you that before he shipped the snake.

either way mites sucks but its not the end of the world, everyone gets them now and then. i dont see how any breeding season is screwed up because of mites. good luck to both of you
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That is true but anyone will tell you that a snake that is infested with mites sometimes have other hidden problems because of the mites. And it's because of this that my quarintine period has to be longer than usual. My superdwarf female is off feed right now and ready to breed, but I can't put her with him. As this is the only male I have, my season is quickly going down the drain.
 
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