Inquiry Ann Frank

[charleshanklin]

I know Anne personally, just like the credible persons I have already listed. No one said anyone had a fake name anywhere but you. Plenty of people with credible reputations have validated Ann as Ann. You are the one that's worried about what's on social media.

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So you are saying you have met her in person?

You said you have a different name on Facebook. Do you have two names? If not one is a fake. I think that’s a pretty simple concept to grasp. You also said she uses a different for safety reasons. There fore that would mean she not using her real name which would make the one she’s using fake. Again very simple concept to grasp.

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Well I can't fix it for you honey, you can either accept those photos as the proof that they are or you can't. I can't do anything about making the site allowing me to log in. I entered the password that it automatically reset for me and it does nothing yet again.

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It is unfortunate that you are having trouble operating your device in a satisfactory manner, but that absolves the actor of nothing.

 

[paulweaver]

I know Anne personally, just like the credible persons I have already listed. No one said anyone had a fake name anywhere but you. Plenty of people with credible reputations have validated Ann as Ann. You are the one that's worried about what's on social media.

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Why not just let your friend Ann know about this thread so that she can come here and defend herself?

 

[Cnckclark90]

I said nothing of the sort, I said people use fake names for saftey not that Ann did or that I did. I never said what my name on Facebook even was so I'm not sure where you are getting any of this but you are really trying to run with it.

So you are saying you have met her in person?

You said you have a different name on Facebook. Do you have two names? If not one is a fake. I think that’s a pretty simple concept to grasp. You also said she uses a different for safety reasons. There fore that would mean she not using her real name which would make the one she’s using fake. Again very simple concept to grasp.

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[Socratic Monologue]

I was the one who could aim her in many right directions to validate that Ann is safe.

Possibly you could have been the one, Ms. Clark, but as it happened you led with this:

I swear I have never seen such nonsense in my life.

You people (...)

Does PayPal pay you people to be this offended

My god.

Were someone to come here and, after establishing themselves as dispassionate and credible, provide explanations of what appears to be unreasonable behavior on the part of a seller, this might help to "validate that Ann is safe."

But were someone to come here and begin with generalized attacks ("you people"), offhand dismissal ("nonsense") and theatrical exasperation ("My god), a reasonable person might come to think that even if Ms. Frank were an honest seller, she might be in the habit of associating with people who are worth avoiding, and so herself be best avoided.

 

[Cnckclark90]

She's working on getting here, she's at work currently while also dealing with this mental shit.

Why not just let your friend Ann know about this thread so that she can come here and defend herself?

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[Cnckclark90]

Honey, let me be the one to tell you, when someone has something someone wants they buy it. At some point it's going to sale, people with truly horrid and long standing terrible reputations still sell. This industry has not the slightest ideal how to practice loyalty.

So understand when I say, I'm not worried about what you have to say about how I choose to word things. If people don't want to be talked down to, they shouldn't get down and wallow in bullshit.

Possibly you could have been the one, Ms. Clark, but as it happened you led with this:








Were someone to come here and, after establishing themselves as dispassionate and credible, provide explanations of what appears to be unreasonable behavior on the part of a seller, this might help to "validate that Ann is safe."

But were someone to come here and begin with generalized attacks ("you people"), offhand dismissal ("nonsense") and theatrical exasperation ("My god), a reasonable person might come to think that even if Ms. Frank were an honest seller, she might be in the habit of associating with people who are worth avoiding, and so herself be best avoided.

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[Cnckclark90]

This is the last I'm replying to this thread, I offered evidence and anyone who needs to see it can still directly message me on here for it. Ann is a reputable seller, and if you don't like how she takes payment then simply do not buy.

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[paulweaver]

She's working on getting here, she's at work currently while also dealing with this mental shit.

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Interesting. When I replied to her Facebook post on Colubrid Classifieds, saying that people should be careful of sending money orders, she blocked me on Facebook within 2 minutes!

 

[charleshanklin]

I said nothing of the sort, I said people use fake names for saftey not that Ann did or that I did. I never said what my name on Facebook even was so I'm not sure where you are getting any of this but you are really trying to run with it.

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You said you are the one that she referenced but I can assure Cassandra was not the name of the person she used as a reference. So that means either you or Ann was lying. By the posts I saw on Facebook the person she used as a reference was defending her as you are here. I will believe that you two are the same and you are a lying. I cannot bring myself to believe anything you have typed here or in the future with photographic evidence as proof.

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

This is the last I'm replying to this thread, I offered evidence and anyone who needs to see it can still directly message me on here for it. Ann is a reputable seller, and if you don't like how she takes payment then simply do not buy.

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Oh, no. That is simply tragedy given shape and form.

Well, since "Ann" appears to not be providing "her" real name, then "she" might not be all that reputable since reputation is most often tied to identity.

 

[MikeCurtin]

I'm still curious to find out if this person actually has the animals she claims to have, and if there is any proof that she does.

Also, what was the shipping address? I'm much more comfortable giving my name to strangers than my address.

 

[Insomniac101]

Honey,

Cassandra, why don't you try addressing people by their names, not sarcastic terms of endearment? Courtesy is easy, and will get you a lot further.

At some point it's going to sale, people with truly horrid and long standing terrible reputations still sell.

And you don't see anything wrong with that? Oh, right; as long as it doesn't affect you, who cares? Thanks to the internet, and especially the BOI, those people are being exposed to a much larger group of shoppers, who will instead give their money to reputable breeders.

This industry has not the slightest ideal how to practice loyalty.

Huh? I've met some very loyal people in this industry. They're loyal to their customers, suppliers, peers, and the animals in their care.

And I would NEVER purchase from someone who refuses to give me their name. That's ridiculous.

 

[WebSlave]

This is the last I'm replying to this thread, I offered evidence and anyone who needs to see it can still directly message me on here for it. Ann is a reputable seller, and if you don't like how she takes payment then simply do not buy.

Personally, I believe that the above is EXCELLENT advice. A LOT of people would not be posting here on the BOI lamenting being scammed if they had just trusted a failed sniff test.

IMHO.

 

[Stender_JA]

So let me get this straight. Ann sent the op to you, and only you as a source, and you were going to provide additional sources for Ann. Why does Ann not have these "recommendations" to provide for herself? If Ann has such glowing reviews, why is Ann refusing to provide them all herself?

 

[AppEcto]

You said you are the one that she referenced but I can assure Cassandra was not the name of the person she used as a reference. So that means either you or Ann was lying. By the posts I saw on Facebook the person she used as a reference was defending her as you are here. I will believe that you two are the same and you are a lying. I cannot bring myself to believe anything you have typed here or in the future with photographic evidence as proof.

I believe Cassandra is "Luci Diaboli" on Facebook. Is that the name of the reference you were given?

 

[LauraB]

Good grief. Appears pretty simple to me. Avoid "Ann Frank" (way too many red flags) and any of her Farcebook friends who want to come here and attempt to insult the intelligence of seasoned members. Laughable at best.

(PS .. "Diary of Ann Frank" was required reading when I was in grade school, lol)

 

[Lucille]

Give it a few years, time will tell. Until then, there are plenty of good breeders with fine snakes at competitive prices with good track records and who accept PayPal or other forms of payment that have some buyer protection. Just don't do business with her.

There are plenty of other good vendors

If people don't want to be talked down to, they shouldn't get down and wallow in bullshit.

I find it interesting how you rationalize your rudeness.

 

[snowgyre]

Here's a photo dump of the thread in the Facebook page Colubrid Classifieds. Ann Frank has since been banned from the page.

 

[snowgyre]

Dump continued...