Another death due to butchers

[bcfos]

It is hard to believe someone would send a snake out like this.

Mardi Snipes

Well Bruce sure would and did..... Enough said about that as we all know about His business practices... Cough....con man Cough.....

 

[snakegetters]

To give you an idea of what stitches on a snake should look like when done by a competent vet, look here: http://www.snakegetters.com/demo/haje/index2.html

Click on the small photos for an enlargement. This was a HUGE, nasty, swollen, gaping wound from which a lot of nonviable tissue was removed. You can see how large the wound was and how much tissue was removed in the photos on the top and middle rows. The bottom row shows the stitching procedure and the final result 72 hours later. Can you see the stitches in the last photo of the snake? You can see a little bit of residual swelling, but the skin is appositioned perfectly and the stitches are not easily visible.

The photos on this page show the skilled work of a licensed veterinarian using proper technique and appropriate surgical equipment. Compare these surgery photos to the picture of the dead hacked up snake above with Frankenstein stitches. It looks like he used dental floss to sew the thing up. Totally inappropriate. Somebody needs to go to jail for this, but the sad thing is that they probably won't since it's "just" a snake that they hacked up.

 

[Mustangrde1]

Based on the information I have, I wrote this letter up and beleive if what I have heard is true might be the best way to deal with this problem. After it is confirmed by the buyer.

To whom it may concern at The United States Fish and Wildlife, South Carolina Department of Natural Resourses, South Carolina District Attourney, Fort Mills South Carolina Police department, Fort Mills District Attourney and KINGSNAKE.COM. There was recently a King Cobra sold through Kingsnake.com's classifieds which died shortly after arrival to its buyer. He ordered a VENOMOUS King Cobra and received one that had obviously gone though the procedure to create a venomoid " surgically altered to remove its venom glands."

The Buyer made a post on Kingsnake.com's forums to inform the general public to this in so much as he feared that someone wanting a venomoid had received a venomous reptile by mistake. The staff at Kingsnake.com apparently deleted his post and as such may be contributing to the harm of a member of the general public. The seller was _____________________________. I strongly urge Kingsnake.com to remove all the postings of _____________________________ in The Kingsnake.com classified and that The United States Fish and Wildlife, South Carolina Department of Natural Resourses, South Carolina District Attourney, Fort Mills South Carolina Police department, Fort Mills District Attourney and KINGSNAKE.COM.conduct an investigation in to thier activities as it may have deadly ramifications on members of the general public had a mistake been made. A King Cobra is capable of killing numerous people with a bite and as such this has become a matter of public safety.

I beleive it is in the best interest of public safety for Kingsnake.com to repost the thread that was deleted in the interest of public safety. Without doing so you may be contributing to the harm or death of a person/person.

 

[Rockford]

I just don't get it!!

How is this not cruelty to animals? Aren't there laws pertaining to this type of cruel punishment that these poor snakes are going through?

WTF......Anyone supporting these venomoiders needs to be blamed as well. Would you go to a round-up? Pay and watch the show and buy a souvenir? It's basically the same.

This crap needs to be put to an end in the hobby. Venomoids should not be allowed to be sold on these sites. This is a complete lack of respect not just to the hobby but the animals. Not to mention all the huge negatives that go with Venomoids(like possible human death).

This is a huge "sore" in the reptile world that needs to be healed.

Bthacker

 

[Mustangrde1]

Hammer this situation is going up on numerous forums to let the public know what happened and to inform anyone who may have bought from them there may be a danger.

Currently I know its on
Air Capitol Constrictors
The Canopy
The Reptile Room
The International Venomous Reptile Keepers Society
Reptile Forms
Reptilians.org

And I know more are going to help. Though Kingsnake may not be responcible the webmasters of these sites are.

 

[Blink]

Something's fishy.
How can you not have realized the stitches when you first recieved your cobra.
They're sticking out like a sore thumb.
If you didn't infact order a venomoid, then the second you saw them you should of called and said you recieved the wrong snake.

I think he ordered a venomoid to being with, and is whinning now that it passed.

 

[Chris@TSE]

I think you're responding to a thread that wrapped up two months ago and making yourself look like an.....

nvm

 

[Blink]

I think you're responding to a thread that wrapped up two months ago and making yourself look like an.....

nvm

Go on say it, What am I making myself look like?
Maybe if you spend as much time on your forum as you do here.
It wouldn't be dead.

 

[gotburms]

Carolina Reptile Exchange

I recently visited Carolina Reptile Exchange in fort mill sc... and i was shocked.... I have never seen such a disgusting place.... all the animals where is poor conditions. the cages appeared as if they have not been cleaned in months and none of the animals had fresh water... most had no water at all. There where even dead rats that where decaying in one of the cages. a large alligator snapper in a small mental truf with dirty wated. The turtle could not even turn around... i honestly don't see how they are in business. You could not even see the fish in the fish tanks. The place was small, dirty, and smelled like death

 

[LeviathanNI]

Is there not a statutory body in SC that can go visit this place? Something similar to our RSPCA/USPCA?

Thankfully the making of venomoids is against the law here.. a ridiculous practice... ahh I won't even start

 

[Tim Cole]

Catch 22...

On one hand, they should be turned in to the local Law Enforcement for cruelty issues. On the other hand, the publicity may put a black eye on the herp community. I would try to locate either a herp society, reptile rehabber, or a rescue facility in good standing to assist with this to reduce the bad image if this is made public with charges filed. If a reptile based organization assist with this, it would look better for us as a herp community. Talk to the DA's office also to make sure they are willing to pursue this and prosecute.

If you get no cooperation from law enforcement, contact the media. Make sure you are ready and able to assist with the wellfare of these animals so they are not put down by local SPCA or Humane Society that are not equipped to deal with this. Have cages ready and notify a good reptile vet since exams are necessary and required for cruelty seizures.

I have assisted with several of these and have instigated one seizure.

It's a tough call and a lot of work.

Good luck,

 

[gotburms]

thanks... is there any one on here thats in Sc near Fort mill... if so you should really Stop by and take a look at this place... "Carolina reptile exchange in fort mill sc". I hate to bad mouth any one but this place is disturbing and i feel that the animals there are in poor shape. I'm new to the area and not sure what to do. I didn't really whant to say anything to the owner while i was there. But when i got home i did some resurech on the place and found nothing good...apparently this guy has been involved in several scams. Any ways if any one has any ideas on what to do let me now. also is it ok to make post on other sites about this... Is It ok to be posting his business name? Any way i will contact some refudes in the area and see what they sugust. I can't stand animal neglect

 

[Tim Cole]

Crystal,
You also need to post your name at the end of each post. Setting up a signature line is the easiest way to do this.