Bad Guy Anthony Caponetto - acreptiles.com

[Snake-Queen]

I know very little about cresties, except how to feed & care for them. I will say that I did NOT know there was so many morphs out there. The pictures posted are of some very adorable cresties.

 

[Ed Clark]

You missed it completely,he offered the nipped up cresties for the original cresties I ordered in July, he missed his delivery date by alot thats why I requested a refund and refused his nipped up cresties.he then sent the tiny hatchlings.he accepted my order for specific morphs that he could not deliver,he misrepresented the cresties he was selling.his ad on kingsnake was a complete lie.he was preselling cresties that he did not have hatched yet.

After responding within a reasonable time frame, he asked you if you would like a nipped lot along with the "motherload package". What's the issue with this? You're already buying animals from him, what's the problem with him asking if you would like a recently advertised lot along with them? Seems like a good business practice to let your customers know what newly available animals you might have.

 

[garchukks]

So do you admit that you requested 10 full red pinstripes?

 

[Wilomn]

You missed it completely,he offered the nipped up cresties for the original cresties I ordered in July, he missed his delivery date by alot thats why I requested a refund and refused his nipped up cresties.he then sent the tiny hatchlings.he accepted my order for specific morphs that he could not deliver,he misrepresented the cresties he was selling.his ad on kingsnake was a complete lie.he was preselling cresties that he did not have hatched yet.

Interesting interpretation there mr. clark.

It's not the one I got, but I suppose that's not really surprising since you're known for wild flights of imagination and flat out lying when you're not simply avoiding telling the truth altogether.

That's an awfully big shovel you're digging with there mr. clark and the hole is getting very very deep. Soon, hopefully, it'll collapse upon you and that will be the last we ever hear from you.

Keep up the good work pal.

 

[Cache Reptiles]

You're right, I did miss the part specifying a nipped 30 lot instead of a perfect 20.

Once again, why did you wait so long to contact him about the ship date? Must not have been too concerned about getting them!

2. It was a WHOLESALE OFFER - no guarantees on morphs, but I will *try* to fill reasonable requests. Your order notes show a request for 10 Red Full Pinstripes...in a 10 lot.

3. There was no discussion of a 30 day ship date, there was no discussion about what morphs you would receive...in fact, there was no conversation at all. You ordered and paid for the geckos before we ever discussed ANYTHING....believe me, I remember because I was surprised and slightly mortified when I saw your name on the order the next morning.

Bottom line, this imaginary conversation we had is nothing but fabricated BS and we both already know that.

So you requested 10 red pinstripes, when the ad states that there are NO guarantees on morphs. A request is just that, a request. He didn't advertise a lot of 10 red pinstripes, don't be disappointed that you didn't receive them. Obviously he didn't feel that your request was within reason.

- Special Requests Welcome if within reason

Have any pictures/size references to prove that they were just recently hatched?

Unless you have more conversations or proof that they were smaller than advertised, there's nothing more to say about this. You've once again shown your great reputation.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

Here are a few pics of the cresties that Anthony sent.can you pick out the $1000.00 crestie? how about a $500.00 crestie?or maybe a $150.00 crestie?

I will put up more pics, I'm working with a sick computer.

It seems according to you and Anthony this was the first time you'd bought from him, right?

These AC pinstripes you had posted for sale look pretty nice. I'm only adding this here because you were showing photos of some of the geckos you got in the lot, wanted to make sure as many were shown since you're having pc problems. (and that you put a bit of a higher value on them than the $15 you say they were worth or perhaps these were the 3 you mentioned as being 'better').

What I received was mostly low end wholesale cresties that I could have bought anywhere for $15.00 each.there were maybe 3-4 better cresties but nothing anywhere near what he talked about in his ads.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

oh and the ad Ed had up also said "These are 7 week old unsexed "

 

[garchukks]

Oh jeeze between the 7 posted you made your money back if grow em and sell em. Some awesome geckos that going to end up great.. and the laterals on that one!

 

[garchukks]

hey i would love a link to where i can buy these for 15 each

 

[AbsoluteApril]

to go back to something I pointed out earlier, I'm not clear on when Ed actually received the geckos, so the 7 week thing I can't comment on, I just wanted to include all that was in the ad, I cut it off in my screen cap.

hey i would love a link to where i can buy these for 15 each

this is not the classifieds, that is not allowed here

 

[garchukks]

the comment was making a point that if these are geckos he can buy for 15 each i want in! the idea these are 15 $ geckos is incredulous

 

[Ed Clark]

$12.00-$15.00 wholesale crested geckos are all over the place in the summer, like it or not that's the reality in this market. Why do you think Anthony is selling his $500.00- $1000.00 cresties for $35.00 each this year...very simple that's all he can get.

How many people do you think will actually pay $1000.00 for a crested gecko?

The way he is deceptively wording his ads and conducting his business will have dire negative effects on his future business.my advice to anyone thinking about buying from Anthony is to get pics before you send him any money, ask if that gecko has a tail and all it's toes.

the comment was making a point that if these are geckos he can buy for 15 each i want in! the idea these are 15 $ geckos is incredulous

 

[Cache Reptiles]

$12.00-$15.00 wholesale crested geckos are all over the place in the summer, like it or not that's the reality in this market. Why do you think Anthony is selling his $500.00- $1000.00 cresties for $35.00 each this year...very simple that's all he can get.

How many people do you think will actually pay $1000.00 for a crested gecko?

And yet you bought them and flipped them (attempted to at least) for a whole lot more than $35 a piece...

The way he is deceptively wording his ads and conducting his business will have dire negative effects on his future business.my advice to anyone thinking about buying from Anthony is to get pics before you send him any money, ask if that gecko has a tail and all it's toes.

Dire negative effects, huh? What are these dire negative effects exactly- not getting your business? Once again, there were no guarantees on which morphs you would receive.

And "ask if that gecko has a tail and all it's toes"? Did you receive ANY geckos without tails or toes?

 

[Wilomn]

$12.00-$15.00 wholesale crested geckos are all over the place in the summer, like it or not that's the reality in this market. Why do you think Anthony is selling his $500.00- $1000.00 cresties for $35.00 each this year...very simple that's all he can get.

How many people do you think will actually pay $1000.00 for a crested gecko?

The way he is deceptively wording his ads and conducting his business will have dire negative effects on his future business.my advice to anyone thinking about buying from Anthony is to get pics before you send him any money, ask if that gecko has a tail and all it's toes.

So, you're taking 12.00 to 15.00 geckos and then selling them for 85.00 to 150.00. My, that's a hefty markup.

I personally know of a breeder out here who was offered 1000.00 for a crestie last week, so I guess there are a few people out there willing to purchase them at that price.

I completely understand your thinking his wording is deceptive. I disagree with you, but over the years I've seen you, and many others, who DO practice deceptive wording accuse others of doing the very same thing. Liars and cheats often see everyone else as a lair and cheater.

Are you now saying that the geckos you did receive were not in possession of all their toes and tail tips? Anthony did offer to send you some which were missing toes and tips, but you declined. You have inferred that you received animals that were missing parts. Did you or did you not? Please be clear in your answer.

 

[leftycrane]

anyone else notice the part in bold? Im very confused where the whole "missing toes" thing came in to play. He says nipped or missing tails. I see nothing of missing toes, which keeps getting brought up...


Hey Ed,

I'm at home, getting ready to leave town, but I'm pretty sure we should be good to go next week. If you're OK with nipped/missing tails, I could upgrade you to 30. Just a thought…I have a lot of nice stuff that has either dropped its tail or had a stuck shed pinch the tip off.

Anthony Caponetto
www.acreptiles.com

On Sep 28, 2011, at 7:38 PM, [email protected] wrote:

 

[TattooLost]

Ed, that's just pathetic. Unless you actually received "damaged" cresties, why would you even imply something like that? Oh yeah, because you're Ed Clark. Throwing a fit because no one believes your lies, and trying to drag others down. I really don't understand how you stay in business, and it makes me sad that you still are...

 

[SirenSanJose]

Here are a few pics of the cresties that Anthony sent.can you pick out the $1000.00 crestie? how about a $500.00 crestie?or maybe a $150.00 crestie?

I will put up more pics, I'm working with a sick computer.

Those first two--the solid one and the less spotty dalmatian--look, to my eye, EXACTLY like high quality RED cresties tend to as babies. I've had babies that look like those guys time and again grow up to be chili red adults.

This little dude I bred and raised didn't come into his color until about 6 months old, but he looked JUST like that first baby you posted until then:'



If those two reds were grown out? Easily $150 geckos, or more. Probably go easily for $250 for the solid, $300 for the dal, if they get a fraction as bright as Anthony's red lines tend to.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Those first two--the solid one and the less spotty dalmatian--look, to my eye, EXACTLY like high quality RED cresties tend to as babies. I've had babies that look like those guys time and again grow up to be chili red adults.

This little dude I bred and raised didn't come into his color until about 6 months old, but he looked JUST like that first baby you posted until then:'



If those two reds were grown out? Easily $150 geckos, or more. Probably go easily for $250 for the solid, $300 for the dal, if they get a fraction as bright as Anthony's red lines tend to.

I must be one of the only people that think cresties w/ no tail are cute as heck!

After reading this thread, I am getting more and more tempted to add a few cresties to my collection. (I will add that hubby may kill me for it though )

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

did anyone notice the posts ed made trying sell these same geckos for much more than 15$ has been removed now?

It's normal for Ed Clark to mark up wholesale animals he purchases 500 to 1500% just as it's normal for him to try and spread BS about his suppliers.

Here's one of many perfect examples. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167134&highlight=Clark

Anthony you should have followed your gut intuition and not sold to him.

Oh Ed btw the next time you want to give me a negative feedback it should be for a reason and not retaliatory.

 

[JakeMilbradt]

So, let's sum this up:

1. Ed buys 20 geckos from Anthony. Ed's only intention is obviously to turn around and flip these as fast as possible. Therefore, he's irritated that he has to wait several weeks to receive them, even though this was stated in the ad.

2. Ed complains to Anthony that he hasn't received them as quickly as he would have liked. Anthony doesn't know whether Ed is going to raise these geckos up to breed or just turn around and sell them, so Anthony offers to upgrade Ed to 30 geckos for the same price. The only difference is that the 30 geckos will be missing tails. I'm not even a gecko guy, and I know that it's VERY normal for crested geckos to have dropped their tails by adulthood. If Ed were planning on keeping these guys to breed, this would obviously be a much better deal.

3. Ed receives 22 geckos from Anthony. This time Ed is upset because the geckos don't have adult coloration, even though they're only 4-6 weeks old. Therefore, Ed can't turn around and flip them immediately for huge amounts of money.

4. Ed lets Anthony know he's upset . . . and Anthony offers him a full refund (including paying for shipping). Instead of a refund, Ed asks to purchase more geckos from Anthony at an further discounted rate. Anthony refuses.

5. So, after declining a 50% increase in geckos at no charge and after declining a full refund (including shipping), Ed comes on the BOI to complain about this deal? I feel like Anthony should be the one starting a thread on here called "Don't Sell to Ed Clark."