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Bad Guy Anthony J McCain

here are some more,

I hope you are able to read this, It was never my intention to cause any other damage to his business but now thats beyond my hands people are able to make up their own conclusion, I have always been very respectful to him and all my costumers.
 

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I'm not really sticking up for him, just can't watch a guy get burned at the stake.

So maybe he has a screw loose, you trying to knock it out for him?

Anthony made the decision to spew his filthy words himself in a public setting. That is all on him, not anyone else. No one pushed him over any edge. He came out swinging, as someone else said before, simply because his poor packaging was pointed out. The fact the animal's survived does not negate the use of dirty laundry to package them or the lack of proper insulation.

As we have learned with UPS, it only takes one moron taking short cuts to ruin shipping for reptile keepers. Snakes, specifically, are such an issue nationally that anyone who is shipping better be crossing their T's and dotting their I's, even if that requires a little extra funding and attention. His shipping standards are sub-par and disgusting.

The way he conducts himself is equally so. No one forced him into saying what he did, he showed his true colors.

No one handed him the noose either. He fashioned it, looped it put it around his throat all on his own.
 
Daniel, if you do not have Photoshop or a program to edit out the vulgarity, you can PM me for my e-mail and send the screen shots to me. You will be infracted for the vulgarity even though you never said it and I don't want you to get banned for it.
 
I'm not really sticking up for him, just can't watch a guy get burned at the stake.

So maybe he has a screw loose, you trying to knock it out for him?
Maybe look away? :shrug01:

The alternative is to simply put the hush on, for fear of sending him into a psychotic rage. Is that what you're advocating? If there's a problem with a transaction, keep it quiet. Don't make him angry, 'cause we wouldn't like him when he's angry? Good luck selling that idea, especially here on the BOI.
 
Theres no doubt he said some mean and erratic things, thats already been established, but Time Served, dont you think?
 
Theres no doubt he said some mean and erratic things, thats already been established, but Time Served, dont you think?

So, he just said it and that's the end of it?

He's ruining his own business with the things he says. People take the internet for granted these days. It has a hard time forgetting things. Facebook is public, people see how you conduct yourself and if you shoot yourself in the foot, you have to deal with the consequences.

Since FB posts can be deleted and the BOI permanent, it makes sense to warn future buyers of the person they are dealing with. If you cannot see the purpose in that, I am not sure what to tell you.
 
I am disgusted by this mans method of communication. I'm not at all in the loop of the ball python world - but how is it that someone with his attitude has been in business for 20 years? The man appears to be clinically deranged, I almost feel pity for him.
 
He ripped me off in 07 lied to everyone about compensation , no one believed me glad this came out!
 
2 years ago I went down to Iowa to hang out with Anthony. We had been acquaintances in the hobby when I first started out and he had been an online advisor/friend as I dealt with the virus and the loss of my original collection. Fast forward to 2011, I had just adopted a new pet ball python after being out of the hobby a few years. Anthony randomly contacted me out of the blue to say hello and see how I was doing. We chatted and texted over 3-4 months and he encouraged me to get back into ball pythons, and we talked about all the new morphs and combos that I had missed since I left. He invited me to come check out his collection and hang out for a few days, since he only lived about 5 hours away. I will admit, through talking we kind of liked each other and at that point, he was a nice guy. So I went down to meet him and stayed at his house. I was planning on spending much of the trip helping out and cleaning things, organizing, help him weed stuff out as he had said he had way too much stuff and was way too disorganized, and I figured my OCD for labeling and organizing might come in handy. Plus I greatly missed having a collection of my own and thought it would be really cool to check out some of the awesome stuff he had. Ihad expected him to have a facility similar to many of the other "Big Guys" in the hobby, but when I got there, I found out otherwise.

His snakes are kept in a 1920's style farmhouse that is 3-4 miles away from his main house. The building has limited insulation and no temperature control, and lightbulbs hanging from long exposed wiring.Racks upon racks are crammed against every wall and into every corner, many of which are hard to access. Most of the tubs had moisture build up as well as multiple piles of old feces and urates collected inside. Many had no water in their bowls and some had no paper or substrate of any kind. When Anthony opened some juvenile tubs to show me a few, he found a dead young female that he never knew had passed away. As I went through looking at the racks and asked him about the animals in them, some of them were ones he'd had for 3-4 years yet were only 700-800g. He said he was "too focused on his main moneymaker projects and potion/crystal stuff, and didn't have time for many of the others".I opened a tub to see one of his group of G-Stripes, and ended up having to pick double layers of stuck shed off a beautiful adult female. In the next rack over, I found a female wrapped around eggs that he never knew was gravid or even remembered breeding. It was a nightmare and nothing like what I would have expected from him.

However, what really got to me were his dogs. Anthony has American bulldogs, and only one lived with him at his main house, his favorite. 2-3 were kept in small outside kennel runs that had no water or real shelter, and almost every inch of floor was covered in mud and feces. The dogs' nails were overgrown almost into their paw pads, and they had bug bites and wounds all over their bodies. The whole time I was there, they never left these kennels.

Now here's where I really got upset. His other 2 dogs were kept inside the snakehouse, inside metal wire crates that they can't even turn around in. He let them out to eat and go potty once, maybe twice per day for about 5 minutes. Then they'd go right back into the crate, even while we were there for 3-4 hours working on stuff. They lived in those crates. I left after 4 days, and the entire time I was there, they never left their crates.

I didn't say anything until now because quite frankly, he is very unstable and scares me. When I got home and later told him that I felt we should just stay friends, he went off his hinges. It was so bad that he was even messaging my ex-boyfriend. We had to block him on Facebook. He would call my phone 30 times in a row for days, texting me and insulting me and threatening me. Anthony has admitted publicly on various forums that he had been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder, which he also told me about as well as a few other issues. While I was visiting him, Isaw him go from happy and excited to angry and violent within the blink of an eye over an email he received, cussing and throwing things, and this was the night before I decided to leave. He has some major issues and I didn't want to risk setting him off by being public about what I saw. But I have had this on my conscience for the last 2 years, and every time he has commented on a post of mine on a group or something, I've wanted to post it. Now after seeing Dan's picture of how those animals were packaged and shipped, I had to say something.

Anthony may have changed the way he keeps and cares for his animals within the last 2 years, but after what I saw, I sincerely doubt it. Both while I was there and after I went home, I said something to him about the dogs. He immediately argued with me and belittled me, so I don't see him changing any time soon.
 
Yeah, yeah CMB ... McCain's a real stand-up guy. Here are a couple of previous posts.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86855
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102140&highlight=anthony+mccain


Even though those snakes may have arrived alive and warm, his shipping method reeked. A freakin sock and panty hose? They weren't even new & unused!

His "people skills" reek. He comes off racist, egomaniacal and completely incapable of conducting himself in a mature, professional manner.

He may produce some decent stock, but is it worth trying to deal with someone who (as CMB/Christopher Brown stated) "maybe has a screw loose"?
NO. It doesn't matter how many years he's been breeding/vending.

You don't screw customers, you don't go psycho, you don't use bullying tactics to cover up inadequacies, incompetence or insecurities. Over the years here we've seen the good guys go down in flames all due to their inflated egos and greed. McCain is just another example.
 
Jennifer Harrison, thank you very much for your post, I can only imagine how hard it must of been for you, I have to say there for a moment i thought of keeping this quiet and not make a big deal about it too, however the excuses for the 60g female was unbelievable and the name calling did it for me, as a snake keeper my self I wish him well for sake of the animals and the dogs too.
 
How do people like this continue to exist? This guys is a zero, from husbandry to sales practices. I almost can't believe how things were shipped.
 
I did not realize he had a long list of bad transactions. Alls I saw was a massive reaction to a bad shipping job and a bad mouth and it didnt make sense to me completely because the animals were healthy. A little clearer now.
 
Somebody, please get professionals over there to assess his situation! Give an address to this 'farm.'

Lets do the right thing for the animals this time! Please! He can't be doing well, and neither are these animals!
 
The personal attacks ESPECIALLY in a public forum are not called for. I don't care how many snakes you've produced or who you are, you do not treat a customer in that fashion. Remember that it's not the hundreds of good experiences that can make you, it's the one bad one that can break you. I have seen this posting on instagram, facebook and twitter by different people. There's no flying under the radar these days..Gotta love the BOI..
 
wow........ I could only skim his posts because they were pretty bad. But all I can really get out of them is "I have MORE snakES and MORE money than YOU AND thereFORE I AM BETTER!"

It appears that his line of thinking, is that if he can yell louder than you, he wins. If he has all of this money and snakes and is so much better than all of us, then why does the description of his snakeroom sound like something from a 3rd world country?

Anthony, I probably have a tenth of the snakes you do, but more high dollar snakes doesn't magically make you the bees knees. My actual snakeroom and the equipment inside of it far out-values the reptiles it houses in both dollar value and importance. I consider my reptile room to be my life's work... the ultimate expression of my passion. I try to create a beautiful environment that not only functions well but is a true addition to the household and a place of warmth and happiness. If you can't properly care for your snakes (and your dogs) you need to get some serious help. Without the proper equipment, substrates, feeding, etc, you aren't a reptile hobbyist, or anybody worthy of the title "breeder" or "keeper". What you're doing is called hoarding. And it appears you have some serious anger issues. You need therapy if you think that any of your reactions and the way you keep your animals is okay. I mean heck, ball pythons are one of the easiest snakes to house and keep, and feed. Our 3 BP's poo maybe once every 2-3 weeks. They don't ask for much. They don't eat much. What on earth would you do with a collection like mine where some of the snakes poo DAILY and eat every 3-4 days?
 
Anthony J McCain
25 minutes ago via YouTube
"SO Mom is AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT - so the KID thus becomes a lil LEGAL AND MY taxes PAY FOR IT sounds SOLIS LIKE doesn't it--- hmmm---- I see WHERE the lack of ENGLISH spelling kicks in NOW ----- OBAMA supporter-- no wonder we BUTT heads --- Make the ILLEGAL people LEGAL right dipshit OBAMA - REVOLUTION time perhaps- will be fun can we say CULLING it is a GOOD thing sometimes .... WANT that socialistic tree boy wanna be AMERICAN - SORRY NONE here I spray those FALSE LAZY trees of WEEDs with ROUNDUP !" This what he posted on his facebook today, he still keeps attacking me and bashing on me, plus a got a very disturbing text at 2 am in the morning today that i will upload later on today.
 
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