Anyone else getting tired of the abuse in the BP Classified

[The BoidSmith]

People fail to read the date no doubt about it but as a seller one has the responsibility to delete ads once the animal is sold.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

You are 100% right in the fact that whenever I see one of your ads, I go on and post a whole bunch to bump you down and I will keep doing so as long as I am able.

Wow...How adult of you...

 

[hhmoore]

FWIW - continuing a(n old) discussion on an existing thread is a bit different than dragging up old ads....and you (Dale) might have been better served by NOT posting your explanation, lol.

 

[Mooing Tricycle]

Has anyone realised that this itself is a thread that was started over a year ago? I just thought it was funny that you were talking about old ads getting bumped by people responding to them after a year or more and this thread itself is just that.

Threads are a completely different story.

 

[Seamus Haley]

For whatever little it might be worth, I often suspect that the people who respond to outdated ads- or ads that have become threads find their way to the site- and that ad- through a search engine that results in only the initial post being displayed, to the exclusion of additional responses. The ad still has a date posted on it, but it's not unreasonable that someone works off an assumption that anything still posted is still avaliable, overlooking the text that indicates when it was first created.

It's *just* a suspicion on my part and doesn't inherently offer any solution other than the existing concepts of locking old ads... or having responsible sellers delete them when the animal/item is gone. It may function as an explaination for the threads that consist of leapfrogging posts along the following lines though-

Post 1: For sale! Thing.
Post 2: Thing has been sold.
Post 3: Is thing avaliable?
Post 4: Thing has been sold, the ad is six months old.
Post 5: Hey, can I have some pictures of thing?
Post 6: Thing has been sold, learn to read, jerk.
Post 7: How much is shipping of thing to place?
Post 8: Die, illiterate!
Post 9: Is thing avaliable?

 

[hhmoore]

HEY!!! I didn't say you could use my ad thread for your little demonstration

 

[hhmoore]

Individual information is all well and good, but when you have 8-12 (or more) practically identical animals, posting separate ads for each of them IS a bit ridiculous. Its your time, if you want to waste it, go for it...but if I were in the market, I wouldn't bother opening all those ads.
As an aside, if I am correct in my thoughts that you are the one posting in the Alternate Classifieds (I don't look at the Bearded Dragon ads, and what happens in the forum based classifieds doesn't impact me), your posting style affects a lot of people. The Alternate Classifieds don't seem to get as much traffic (and aren't targeted by the search spiders, if I remember right); so, for some of us, the main draw to using them is to have our ads show up in the Recent Ads section on the main page. You repeatedly knock everybody off that list. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a complaint from me - I could care less how many ads you post, and I don't even keep them so there is no interest or competion in my mind - just a statement. My response to you posting ads that way...I just don't utilize that section of the classifieds anymore.

Oh, btw, this thread was not started about you...it was started about something similar occuring in the BP classifieds. The basic issue was the same, so your little make-a-war situation was easily put into the existing thread (kind of like putting more than one dragon in an ad, lol). Since this subject has been brought up a couple of times, I don't recall who was being complained about in the original ad (It was either Rick,Brett, or Tim...or some combination), but the responses are pretty much the same. Remove the sellers name & the species involved, and apply it to whatever group you want - it isn't against the rules to post multiple ads, so knock yourself out.

 

[The BoidSmith]

Post 1: For sale! Thing.
Post 2: Thing has been sold.
Post 3: Is thing avaliable?
Post 4: Thing has been sold, the ad is six months old.
Post 5: Hey, can I have some pictures of thing?
Post 6: Thing has been sold, learn to read, jerk.
Post 7: How much is shipping of thing to place?
Post 8: Die, illiterate!
Post 9: Is thing avaliable?

:laugh:

 

[Gecko_Den]

Oh, btw, this thread was not started about you...it was started about something similar occuring in the BP classifieds.<snip> I don't recall who was being complained about in the original ad (It was either Rick,Brett, or Tim...or some combination)

Hell, I started the thread and don't even remember who I was complaining about...

 

[ninthof9]

Actually, I appreciate your well thought out response but I did not say that she started the whole thread I even stated that it was ironic that the thread took a turn about old ads and the thread itself was started over a year ago. I did state that she re-started an old thread.
While, I do realise that most breeders do not advertise the way I do and I do honestly realise that many people may not open any ads past the first one. I still run my ads this way because when I myself was in search of a dragon I was getting fed up with many breeders who advertise as a group and then in calling them, you still can't get an individual photo or even a measurement. I know that if I was getting frustrated by this practice...then other people could be too. At least with my ads, potential customers can see exactly what I am offering and have up to date measurements and ages which is another thing that was frustrating. A breeder would list either a measurement or an age and how could a potential buyer see if the dragon for sale was either large or small for it's age.
I still stand by the way I advertise, it's harder and a lot more work for me but I feel I am offering a better service.
Dale

 

[WebSlave]

And for the record, any person utilizing the classifieds section of this site can advertise their animals in any manner they deem best for their business. Some people won't like one way, and others won't like another way. This site has no intention, at least in the foreseeable future, of trying to force everyone to fit in any one particular mold by telling them HOW to advertise.

 

[HowlinGaleDragons]

this is stupid anoying and funny

Wow...Come back from a 4 day vacation to something like this...I'm anoyed and laughing a bit at how stupid this is.

Ok I'm really not in the mood for the 5 paragraph posts so I will make this short and sweet.

1. It's been a while since I posted I went back and read it that was one of my first post EVER on here I was new to this part of fauna and a seasoned poster helped me out after the post so the post i made was from being new.

2. I neve rmentioned a name I'm not a rude enough person to do something like that so where dose this "Dale" person come in attacking me...feeling guilty or something?

3. If it makes you feel better Dale I WASNT talking about YOU if you wanted to be mature about it you would have messaged asking me and the person I was speaking of was messaged letting them know I posted that.

4. It is sick and disgusting that you'd act immature like that attacking me and imforming everyone your going to bump all my posts. Atleast with that my abuse report should be handled quicker.

5. The ONLY time I emailed you was in responce to you complimenting my red dragons and I said yours where nice back so I'd love to know where this so called email came from I never sent one.

Helpful Tip: Don't accuse and attack people when you have no proof to back your story up you just made yourself look like a compelte idiot.

Ok with that said...

I recieved two nasty messages from this "Dale" person and saved them since I reported it to staff. I have no idea in heck what she is talking about with this "annonymous" email thing for one I'm not a rude low person like that two If I was going to send that type of email I have the guts to make darn sure the person knows its me. So I've enclosed the EXACT message she sent me for all of you to see, she is out right admitting she is going to be bumping and continue bumping my ads based off some "Assumption" that I was talking about her this to me is beyond childish.

So please don't go bashing my name based on your stupid assumptions unless you have out right proof its not smart to start something like this.


EXACT MESSAGE FROM DALE


Howling Gale,
you tried sending me an E-mail annomyously or so you thought and were just completely rude and obnoxious to me thinking I would not figure out who it was so I am not surprised you are now bad mouthing me in the forums and did not even let me know so I could defend myself. And to open up a thread that was over a year old....grow up. How old are you?
I do not post in an abusive manner, because I put each of my dragons in a seperate post so that potential customers can see exactly what they are getting and I include new measurements and photos does not make me abusive. It means I am thinking about what I would like to see in an ad if I myself were looking for a dragon. Because you do not choose to put in the time to do the same does not mean that I am doing it incorrectly or that I am being abusive. I am trying to give people what I beleive is a better service, because you do not offer such a service does not show badly on me, it does of you.
In your "annonymous" E-mail to me you stated you and all your freinds were going to report me and I sent the E-mail back to you(you KNOW you got it)saying that I had allready checked on how many ads could be posted at any particular time and I was told I could post as many as I wanted. At the time, you had to pay to be able to post ads and I paid my dues and am due respect just like everyone else on here.
So, get off your soap box and if you don't like that your ads get bumped then post more frequently. On Kingsnake there are so many postings that if you post in the AM then your ad is toward the bottom by that night. Go there and try to tell them you are pissed that your ad keeps getting pushed down...see what they say.
Also, I think you need a HUGE reality check. In your "annonymous" E-mail you said I posted 20 ads, and on here you say I post 15. Get a life, before your little E-mail I had not ever posted more then 8...I went back and counted...8. How does that constitue 20???!!! Or even 15. Your E-mail only managed to piss me off so that when ever I see your ads on here, I make sure to post enough to send you as far down the line that I can. I do hope you see a lesson here in that if you had mentioned something in a POLITE and non annonymous way(so I could at least defend my side of it)then you would not have been bumped as much as you have. You made this personal...I do not usually even post unless I see one of your posts on here.
You said you were going through hell with someone on the bearded dragon section...you made your own hell.
To think I felt bad when you gave me your sob story and I told you about the other forums and the other part of the classifieds on Fauna. You made your bed, enjoy!
Dale​

 

[Dennis Hultman]

Howling Gale,
you tried sending me an E-mail annomyously or so you thought and were just completely rude and obnoxious to me thinking I would not figure out who it was so I am not surprised you are now bad mouthing me in the forums and did not even let me know so I could defend myself. And to open up a thread that was over a year old....grow up. How old are you?
I do not post in an abusive manner, because I put each of my dragons in a seperate post so that potential customers can see exactly what they are getting and I include new measurements and photos does not make me abusive. It means I am thinking about what I would like to see in an ad if I myself were looking for a dragon. Because you do not choose to put in the time to do the same does not mean that I am doing it incorrectly or that I am being abusive. I am trying to give people what I beleive is a better service, because you do not offer such a service does not show badly on me, it does of you.
In your "annonymous" E-mail to me you stated you and all your freinds were going to report me and I sent the E-mail back to you(you KNOW you got it)saying that I had allready checked on how many ads could be posted at any particular time and I was told I could post as many as I wanted. At the time, you had to pay to be able to post ads and I paid my dues and am due respect just like everyone else on here.
So, get off your soap box and if you don't like that your ads get bumped then post more frequently. On Kingsnake there are so many postings that if you post in the AM then your ad is toward the bottom by that night. Go there and try to tell them you are pissed that your ad keeps getting pushed down...see what they say.
Also, I think you need a HUGE reality check. In your "annonymous" E-mail you said I posted 20 ads, and on here you say I post 15. Get a life, before your little E-mail I had not ever posted more then 8...I went back and counted...8. How does that constitue 20???!!! Or even 15. Your E-mail only managed to piss me off so that when ever I see your ads on here, I make sure to post enough to send you as far down the line that I can. I do hope you see a lesson here in that if you had mentioned something in a POLITE and non annonymous way(so I could at least defend my side of it)then you would not have been bumped as much as you have. You made this personal...I do not usually even post unless I see one of your posts on here.
You said you were going through hell with someone on the bearded dragon section...you made your own hell.
To think I felt bad when you gave me your sob story and I told you about the other forums and the other part of the classifieds on Fauna. You made your bed, enjoy!
Dale[/CENTER]

Dale, I don't know if the poster here had you in-mind when she wrote the post. I can tell you that two other people wrote me for help sometime ago about your ads. Also, another person started a thread about you here.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111865

The point being is that it seems that multiple people have issues with your ads so I'm not sure how you figured out that it was this user that sent the email.

As Rich stated, he isn't placing a limit on ads or regulating the classifieds so you have broken no rule. But, I don't see why this has to become a larger issue with games like this.

Your E-mail only managed to piss me off so that when ever I see your ads on here, I make sure to post enough to send you as far down the line that I can.

I would suggest a more calm and sensible approach rather than trying to one-up the rest of the users. I see no reason why the bitterness needs to escalate.

 

[HowlinGaleDragons]

Thankyou Dennis