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Anyone heard of Phil Barnett of PC Reptiles?

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Anyone heard of Phil barnett of PC reptiles? He has a good deal going on for albino boas but just sounds to good to be true. Atleast hes excepting credit cards and bank checks. Thats a plus. Easy to prosecute if it is a lie. Thanks!
 
It is not too good to be true. They only have one eye. Anything you produce with them will be worthless if you represent the parents honestly.

Those animals should be culled. There are too many one eyed albinos popping up for it to be considered a fluke anymore.
Howard Ross

please save an extra 4-500 dollars and buy a healthy one.
 
Howard hit the nail on the head.

One eyed albinos SHOULD NOT BE SOLD. In fact in my opinion they should be culled. Sure given away as "pets" in theory works, but even then breedings can and do happen on accident, and any offspring are a drain on the breeding population.

Anyone considering breeding albino boas in particular needs to be very particular about the stock they use for production. Anyone who truely cares about the animals they are working with WOULD NOT BREED INFERIOR ANIMALS, this weakens the line for everyone.

Please by all means buy a good animal, with both eyes. Do not fall for any "trauma" caused eyeless animals, or even one properly identified as geneticly eyeless.

If you would like help obtaining a good albino boa, feel free to contact me with the price your trying to pay. If your looking for a "pet" get a female, and you can save money that way.
 
They have 3.3 available from the same breeder and ALL 6 of them are missing an eye. That's genetic and these animals should NEVER be bred and these idiots should be smacked for advertising them as a "great for breeding to anery or salmons".
 
Just got an email from him. He said they were the result from inbreeding. Thanks guys for the advice. I keep my eye open for a albino male. Looking to spend no more than 900 for a good one if thats possible.
 
i think anyone that has posted so far would go out of their way to find you an albino in that price range. it is preserving their investments. i dread the day that one of my hets could throw one eyes ( and it very easily could, this is not even close to the first group of deffective animals).

the difference is now people should know that they are hurting boa breeders everywhere when they sell these. i have not called the seller anything negative; i hope he does not know what he is doing.

the new cyclopse albino: the morph of the future
howard ross
 
Hi

Hi,

I agree with everyone else i saw that ad today and couldnt believe it. Great for breeding more like great for destroying the gene pool, yeah its a new morph A Cyclops Albino, should be 5000. i agree with - Smack them. lol!

I can help you out a little,
I have 1.1 Awesome albinos right now, They are pefect in everyway. They are from an Albino father to a het female. You can have either one for $1000 thats the best i can do on these guys. Heres a few pics of the girl the males pics are to big but you can see them at www.nextworldexotics.com/boas.htm .
albinofemale2.jpg
albinofemale1.jpg
 
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would breed sibling albinos. I hope I never come across anyone selling me one of those for full price. What a waste. Thank god for BOI.
 
Just for curiosity sake. I don't believe in putting animals down that have chance. How would they be as pets? I'm not thinking of purchasing from him, but is there a good chance there are other deformities underneath or could they be kept as pets?
 
In a perfect world that would be fine. However greed often overcomes peoples best judgement, and as such its hard to imagine the animals NEVER being bred.

Sadly reptiles often are passed from one owner to another. Lets say the first person buys the snake as a pet. Well 3 years later something happens in their lives, and they are forced to sell or give away the "one eye pet". Sadly chances are the next owner will breed the animal, thus polluting the gene pool with more inferior animals.

While it seems harsh to doom one animal due to a defect, its far more devastating to allow that inferior animal the chance to breed, and screw up the gene pool for everyone.
 
Oh I understand. I was speaking more of me. As in if I were to purchase a one eyed snake strictly for a pet. I just wasn't sure how likely the chances of serious problems down the road were. Thanks!!
 
Actually...

By outbreeding animals that carry the one-eye gene it is being perpetuated in the heterozygous state throughout the albino boa gene pool. If PC reptiles *had* outcrossed their boas, they'd be doing even more of disservice to the boa community because the one-eye gene would get passed along, but be undetectable.

**Now I'm not for an instant suggesting this as a viable option**

but theoretically, the best way to squash the eyeless gene would be to breed siblings or backcross offspring to parents. This would identify those animals that carry but do not express the gene, and they could thus be removed from production. Those animals that did not produce eyeless morphs after inbreeding could then be fairly certainly labelled as *not* being het for eyeless, and their offspring could be certified as such.

As has been pointed out on this forum time and again, the economics of the reptile business will prevent this kind of concerted effort from being made, but any individual breeder who was interested in perpetuating only the best animals could perform the necesarry crosses, and presumably get a slightly higher price for animals guaranteed to be homozygous for two eyes.

-Day Ligon
 
He's at it again.
The ad for the one-eyed albinos is back up.
He still lists them as good for breeding.

I sent him an email offering $150 for one as a pet since these cannot be bred without screwing up the gene pool.

We'll see what his response is.

Oh, one more thing. You cannot respond to his ad unless you are a registered KS member. You have to login to reply to it. There is a message that comes up that only responses from registered members are accepted.

I never saw that before.

Gues she got tired of hearing from people that the breeders he is trying to sell should never be bred since they have genetic defects.
 
Oh well.
Best he can do is a female for $500 with free shipping.
Too rich for me.
 
I agree they all should have been culled.
But the $$$$ breeders/sellers only care about one thing. $$$$$$$$.

The guy who has them listed isn't the only one to blame, who was the person from NY that sold them to him. Would like to know, so that I don't ever buy ANYTHING from him, directly or indirectly.



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And they are selling fast. I tried to look for the vendor list at fire. Maybe someone who is closer to Tony C. can ask.
I would like to know who the vendor from N.Y. was as well. Pawning his garbage off here and not even taking the flack for the crap he created (if the advertisement is even true).

Howard Ross
 
pc reptiles has found the boi.

now i have not gone on to personally attack you, but would you care to explain to everyone here the motivation for selling these genetic time bombs. are you aware of the boa market or was this one of your first dealings where some slick new yorker pawned off these things? he (the breeder) obviously knew the damage they would have done to his reputation or he would have sold them singly.
Howard Ross

i am really interested to know the story on these albinos.
 
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