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Info Arizona Exotics --- Payson, Az.

Aaaanyways, Tom, I have a lot of respect for all the work you've been putting into this. You're an A++++ guy!:beer:

Tom is fantastic. When it comes to reporting neglect, questionable or illegal activities that relate to animals, he hits HARD. Last time he reported something, the Federal authorities ended up investigating somebody (related to endangered species propagation).
If Shannon wants to try to go after Tom he will likely end up in deeper crap than if he just publicly addressed the problem and fixed it in the first place.
I have a feeling that after the dust settles and this thread sinks a page or two, the shop will be right back to where it was before this thread... since at least 2011 when the yelp review was written. You gonna go after the yelper too Shannon? You need to get out of the hobby!
 
the store is arizona exotic Pets tom..

Arizona exotic animals is a seperate entity. i have never physically worked in the store.


How are they a separate entity if both are listed at the same address? If you worked at one wouldn't you be working at the other? Ooo I see. On the rescues website your listed as a "volunteer". I guess technically if your a volunteer then no you cant physically be "working". But to say your not associated with the store would be a lie. They are the same thing founded by the same person.
 
How are they a separate entity if both are listed at the same address? If you worked at one wouldn't you be working at the other? Ooo I see. On the rescues website your listed as a "volunteer". I guess technically if your a volunteer then no you cant physically be "working". But to say your not associated with the store would be a lie. They are the same thing founded by the same person.


Had to chime in on this...

ANYBODY WITH RELATIONS TO THE STORE CAME IN AND TOLD LIES.

This is noted, and quite scary!

Thank you for noticing kind sir!
 
Had to chime in on this...

ANYBODY WITH RELATIONS TO THE STORE CAME IN AND TOLD LIES.

This is noted, and quite scary!

Thank you for noticing kind sir!

Tom, you shouldn't be calling people lairs... You have told many lies on this thread and to the police. I never threatened you once. Although, I did laugh at your threats. Even if your threats hold weight, given your criminal past. Yeah, many people have been sending us all the dirt on you and sharing it with the police. So I guess you'll bring four friends with you to, as you said, "take care" of me? Isn't that how many you needed to beat that kid? How did your family like paying for that? Yes, I've been sent many screen shots of you threatening others on Facebook. Pretty quick to point out your gun collection, aren't you? Exactly how many restraining order are there out on you? Have you gotten of the meth yet?

Just about every reptile store owner in Arizona has sent us messages about what an pain in the ass you are.

Lets face it people, at some point not every cage, display or tub will be in perfect condition. Tom pointed out the one exception in this case.

I guess you internet trolls are all the same. You keep saying other dying animals and filthy cages. That is simply a lie. If not, prove it. You tried to tell James that you recognized him as one of the people sitting behind the counter. Well, that's another lie. He lives an 90 mins and $60+ in gas away. You said you came in on a Tuesday? Well, then you would have met the guy that cares for the animals. He greets everyone who walks into that area and asks them if they need help. Can you describe him for me? Not without calling some people I'm sure.

Again, about the collared lizard... I never said the water shouldn't have had water. That should have been taken care of and I have now required my employee to come in Saturdays and Sundays. I simply explained it wasn't the end of the world, as you would suggest. Just because the one animal that came in sick was out front, doesn't mean we don't have quarantine. Unfortunately, we had received some blue tongues from Calzoo infested with mites. We didn't want to expose this animal to that room and the treatment. We couldn't just turn it away either. As you can image, this time of year, many animals are brought to us. I had actually suggested that we euthanize the collard when it arrived, but my employee wanted to see if he save it. Yes, we did end up having to euthanize it. It never ate for us and regulated any liquids we trying to pump into it. Yes, this was an unfortunate case. It doesn't mean that we are neglecting animals on a daily basis.
 
Tom, you shouldn't be calling people lairs... You have told many lies on this thread and to the police. I never threatened you once. Although, I did laugh at your threats. Even if your threats hold weight, given your criminal past. Yeah, many people have been sending us all the dirt on you and sharing it with the police. So I guess you'll bring four friends with you to, as you said, "take care" of me? Isn't that how many you needed to beat that kid? How did your family like paying for that? Yes, I've been sent many screen shots of you threatening others on Facebook. Pretty quick to point out your gun collection, aren't you? Exactly how many restraining order are there out on you? Have you gotten of the meth yet?

Just about every reptile store owner in Arizona has sent us messages about what an pain in the ass you are.

Lets face it people, at some point not every cage, display or tub will be in perfect condition. Tom pointed out the one exception in this case.

I guess you internet trolls are all the same. You keep saying other dying animals and filthy cages. That is simply a lie. If not, prove it. You tried to tell James that you recognized him as one of the people sitting behind the counter. Well, that's another lie. He lives an 90 mins and $60+ in gas away. You said you came in on a Tuesday? Well, then you would have met the guy that cares for the animals. He greets everyone who walks into that area and asks them if they need help. Can you describe him for me? Not without calling some people I'm sure.

Again, about the collared lizard... I never said the water shouldn't have had water. That should have been taken care of and I have now required my employee to come in Saturdays and Sundays. I simply explained it wasn't the end of the world, as you would suggest. Just because the one animal that came in sick was out front, doesn't mean we don't have quarantine. Unfortunately, we had received some blue tongues from Calzoo infested with mites. We didn't want to expose this animal to that room and the treatment. We couldn't just turn it away either. As you can image, this time of year, many animals are brought to us. I had actually suggested that we euthanize the collard when it arrived, but my employee wanted to see if he save it. Yes, we did end up having to euthanize it. It never ate for us and regulated any liquids we trying to pump into it. Yes, this was an unfortunate case. It doesn't mean that we are neglecting animals on a daily basis.

Any estimates on the amount of cages you could have cleaned and water bowls filled in the time it took to log in and post?
I would tell James to park the tractor trailer,and get a car. I drive over 100mi both ways weekdays @ $20-$25 round trip,depending on gas prices.
 
All my animals always have water but if they knock it over but when u ship reptiles they go without for 24 hours maybe longer but all this threatening is crazy dam i want to go check out this store the way its made out from one picture sounds crazy everyone slips up once in a while someway
 
All my animals always have water but if they knock it over but when u ship reptiles they go without for 24 hours maybe longer but all this threatening is crazy dam i want to go check out this store the way its made out from one picture sounds crazy everyone slips up once in a while someway

Yes, please come check it out anytime. Don't tell us when.
 
Sharon... Let's take the two easiest lies you told about me.

Let the record state, I shouldn't have to do this. But, let's dispel some more of your dramatic BS.

For $2000... Post proof of a felony conviction with my name on it.

For another $2000... Post anything related to me and disgusting methamphetamine.

We are gonna start right there!

Ready! GO!
 
arizonaexotics; said:
... and I have now required my employee to come in Saturdays and Sundays.

So, prior to Tom's original warning post here, you admit you had no one checking or caring for your animals on Saturdays and Sundays?
 
Sharon... Let's take the two easiest lies you told about me.

Let the record state, I shouldn't have to do this. But, let's dispel some more of your dramatic BS.

For $2000... Post proof of a felony conviction with my name on it.

For another $2000... Post anything related to me and disgusting methamphetamine.

We are gonna start right there!

Ready! GO!


These should be easy for you to PROVE... You are the one associated with the Winslow PD? Correct? I wonder if that's why nobody does anything about that DUMP, you call your petshop. :)

Patiently waiting for you to prove something/anything that you've said in here! :)



(Crickets chirping...)

Check out my gun collection here... >>>> :shootfoot
 
Itll take more than 1 bad picture before I condemn anyone. Will someone please go into the store and take some pictures before everyone has a panic attack because of 1 very poor quality picture that has been explained? If the store is as bad as people say it shouldnt be difficult to have a couple pics backing that up.
 
Also, im not sure how people are saying the obviously dieing lizard in that 1 bad quality pic is poorly housed. The entire enclosure isnt even in the picture. For all we know there could be a whole nother water bowl filled in the cage. The enclosure could be a small 10g tank or it could be a huge 8X4. We have no idea because noone has bothered to take a decent photo. Right now its just pointless He said She said vs the store owner and the op. Neither of which have posted any proof (pics) proving their side of what happened. If the store is bad OP, go get some pics. If its a fine store, Store owner get some pics.
 
Also, im not sure how people are saying the obviously dieing lizard in that 1 bad quality pic is poorly housed. The entire enclosure isnt even in the picture. For all we know there could be a whole nother water bowl filled in the cage. The enclosure could be a small 10g tank or it could be a huge 8X4. We have no idea because noone has bothered to take a decent photo. Right now its just pointless He said She said vs the store owner and the op. Neither of which have posted any proof (pics) proving their side of what happened. If the store is bad OP, go get some pics. If its a fine store, Store owner get some pics.

It's "poorly housed" because it is in a filthy cage, with no water, on questionable substrate. The size doesn't matter. An 8x4 would, in fact, be completely inappropriate for a young lizard of this size. A clean 10 gallon with proper heat and light would be just fine for a youngster like this.
 
This picture says 4000 words! I couldn't even imagine when the last time that water dish saw somebody pick it up and clean it! ;)
 

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The only thing i see is a sickly looking lizard and no water in a bowl and some hard water build up which is bad no water but the shape of the lizard who knows if it came in that bad but one picture at 1st i thought this was really bad which it is but seeing all the bullying going on the computer reminds me of all the pucks on my sons facebook talking trash to each other just cause they are good at typing
 
You must have missed a huge issue inside of this thread besides a single photo (which, as I stated before, may or may not be a massive problem considering it is the only photo).

The owner is the one who stated that animals not having water one day out of the week is not a big deal.

In Arizona.

Which is a desert.

Which is incredibly hot right now (seriously, 98 is a "cool" day out here right now).

Which means dehydration comes quickly and easily, even for desert animals who can drink so infrequently the option for water should be available to them 24/7.

This is what we call common sense.
 
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