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Info Ashley Caspillo-SakaraGT4/Sakara *Possible Buyer Beware!*

sally-dog said:
Now, watch those pictures disappear! I wonder why the Jampea wasn't there? Probably because he was visibly ill! She had him for sale just 13 days after the dates on those pictures.
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I can't do it from work, but someone needs to do screenshots so evidence doesn't disappear.


People like her owners and vendors killed any desire I had to attend shows and purchase animals. :angry:
 
I know some good folks that vend at that show. Responsible people who have worked their tails off to get it done right in this hobby. The fact that she had a table there and took such a stupid chance to sell some snakes with no concern for others disgusts me.
 
LD50_Junkie said:
But who would sell to her?

Let's not forget that this hobby is in so much trouble because of the vendors who have, do and will sell to anyone to make a buck. People who have no business with large boids or less than savory husbandry practices.

I mean, really, who NEEDS 70 boids? Who NEEDS 70 cats? No one can adequately care of those numbers of animals without a workforce of skilled employees. And no one can QT in a private facility (read: a house) with 70+ snakes. A la the IBD's etiology maybe?
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False assumption. It can and is being done. A detached shed with entrance from outside in the back and no shared air to the rest of the house, and a SCHEDULE. Yep, it can and is being done, by people that also have jobs and no skilled employees.:)
 
deborahbroadus said:
I can't do it from work, but someone needs to do screenshots so evidence doesn't disappear.


People like her owners and vendors killed any desire I had to attend shows and purchase animals. :angry:
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Oh, I saved the relevent pictures before I even posted. We already know how fast she deletes stuff when we point it out. :D
 
False assumption. It can and is being done. A detached shed with entrance from outside in the back and no shared air to the rest of the house, and a SCHEDULE. Yep, it can and is being done, by people that also have jobs and no skilled employees.
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...And that's why I spent the time to specify that with just a house it would be next to impossible.

Does Ashely have a shed? Because it looks like, from all the pictures that she posts, all of her animals are crammed together in the same room?
 
LD50_Junkie said:
...And that's why I spent the time to specify that with just a house it would be next to impossible.

Does Ashely have a shed? Because it looks like, from all the pictures that she posts, all of her animals are crammed together in the same room?
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This is Ashley, not anyone else. LOL
Yes, they're crammed into one room.

I can see your point about larger boids, like the retics, but none are full grown. 70 full grown Boa Constrictors, Retics, Burms, whatever else she's had would be a problem.

Personally I think she's out of her mind trying to raise 4 retics for breeding on top of the massive collection she already has.
 
Deb something tells me you've been keeping MUCH longer that 2 short years before you acquired a large collection, and you were more selective about your purchases ;)

In any case, I can't keep up, either. I suppose if I didn't have anything better to do, I could come up with a basic timeline of each purchase, but I don't feel it's necessarily vital to do so. Suffice to say we don't have an accurate count of how many snakes are in her collection, how many have died, or how many have been sold.

The fact she requested certain actions be taken by the original seller of the BCL, whom she ADAMANTLY accused of infecting her snakes with IBD, shows that she had enough knowledge to have done the right thing with her OWN collection from the beginning. She didn't.
 
Apologies for the two posts that could have been summed up in only one, but I do want to point out that there's a big difference between balls, corns, Lampropeltids, etc and BCs, burms and retics!

Not only size-wise, but health-wise.

It doesn't take much for a burm to get sick with a silly RI. Now, you have an animal with a compromised immune system surrounded, on all sides, with literally dozens upon dozens of other specimens. It takes no great leap of insight to anticipate the exponential increase in the transmission of pathogens. Oh, and did I mention the mere hop, skip and jump from one cage to the next?

So yes, I at least, think that taking care of 70+ snakes is a daunting endeavor for most anyone to undertake--much less a person with children, custody battles, family problems, a "physical disability" and only casual and novice friends that pitch in from time to time.

Now, am I an ass for bringing up her personal life? Maybe. I am definitely an ass for a whole number of other reasons nevertheless.

Then again, she's the one who parades around those problems for all to see. Almost nonchalantly, much less. ;)
 
Yep, Garrett, I agree with you there. The large constrictors take a LOT more diligence to care for than what Ashley could ever provide. There are pictures of her taking that (now deceased) Burmese Python into a Petco, of all places for some "impromptu" education. Well, I don't know about where any of you live, but most chain petstores are a disease epicenter. Petco isn't exactly known for selling healthy animals. Aside from that, taking such a large animal into a public setting is could be a PR nightmare, especially if the place isn't insured. I really wish she never had these animals at all!

http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/gi...etics-oh-my/60049-some-reptile-education.html
 
Went to her website and read this:

"Our breeding projects are temporarily on hold for this season. We are currently undergoing testing on our animals to rule out the possibility of IBD exposure to our collection. We will update once we start getting tests back! Thank you!"

While it didn't seem she did most (or much) of her selling through that site, it is still at least one tiny good step that she's actually got IBD testing mentioned on the front page. Sucks that she had to be pushed this far to get it there, but I do appreciate the fact that it is there now.
 
It's a farce she is using just to make it look like she cares.

You cannot rule out IBD via testing if there was a confirmed case already in the collection. I do not know how many times I have to say that.

The tests available can currently confirm IBD, but not rule it out. The test cannot pinpoint the virus when it is inactive.
 
That notice was only recently put there after "AddictedToBoas" demanded it..lol
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1175238&postcount=821
AddictedToBoas said:
I want Ashley to post a warning on her website. Not "more information to come" or any of that bull If her past customers are keeping up with her at all, that's one way they can be warned.
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Once it was brought here her website ads were still active, she posted "Temporarily on hold, more information to come, please check back later!" on her website.
Only after AddictedToBoa's post above did she actually change the site.


She's NOT being responsible on her own accord, believe me.
 
ShadowAceD said:
It's a farce she is using just to make it look like she cares.

You cannot rule out IBD via testing if there was a confirmed case already in the collection. I do not know how many times I have to say that.

The tests available can currently confirm IBD, but not rule it out. The test cannot pinpoint the virus when it is inactive.
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THANK YOU!!!

This is another reason why being exposed to her animals is such a crippling thing. Even if my animals test negative, they are not safe. They may be asymptomatic and not showing inclusions in tests. I will have to keep testing for years.

And so should Ashley. If ALL snakes in her house and who have been exposed to hers actually test negative which I highly doubt.
 
Every snake at her place must be assumed positive for IBD regardless of the outcomes of the path reports. Those assays only test for the presence of inclusions (in other words, the extent of the disease) and not for the presence of the etiological agent itself.

That is, until we develop a method to test for IBD-specific antigens...
 
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