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!!! ATTN: Veasna Muth STOLE $450.00 FROM ME! AVOID AT ALL COSTS, SCAM ARTIST !!!

It was exactly 5 days after the seller stated he would ship that this person blew him apart on the BOI, Like I said, it was a bit premature. you can bet your ass I would be ticked if I had not received my order, but you can rest assured I would have exauhsted most avenues before bringing it up here....

Typically I do my homework BEFORE a purchase however, so I do not get caught in this situation very often, I'm sure you can relate Jerry...

And the name is Chris.... Not TOP SHELF, thanks Jerry. :D

And as for Ron, PLEASE make a habbit of checking the BOI here before making purchases. You'll thank yourself in the future for it! Good Luck!!!
 
Ron-

I admire your sense of humor that you still have about losing $450. I had a broker tell me this weekend that $600 wasn't alot of money! I don't care if it was $100. It's all the same.

Chris-
You are wrong for coming on here telling this guy that just got ripped off that he's was premature about posting and he might be blacklisted. The only excuse this guy has for not responding to Ron's inquiries is either his own death or being kidnapped. Defending folks with shotty business practices has definitely blacklisted yourself from getting my hard-earned cash. I am not trying to be a jerk but that's just the way I see it.

Bthacker
 
well CHRIS, lets wait

and see when this no longer becomes premature.

Ron, if you would be so kind as to continue informing us of any change in this person if he contacts you............after receiving your money, not communicating with you, and can not seem to provide the simple courtesy of an acknowledgement.

Chris, I am uncertain what you mean by "doing your homework", Their is always a risk factor. If you know the person you are dealing with, you reduce the risk, if you dont know whom you are dealing with you increase the risk. In either situation, you are at the mercy of the seller, and the very least , I say the least the seller can provide is some acknowledgement. Or is that to much of a premature quality to ask for in a business transaction !

You seem to think so! For $ 500.00, I think the buyer is intitled to a bit more courtesy considering that he paid in advance, met his obligation that the seller set forth, and now has to worry if he will loose the money or the animals or both. Nice way to do business.
 
Agreed, which is why i stated when posting that type of post so soon (5 days after sending money to seller without confirmation) it should have been a complaint about horrid correspondence, as i said earlier. 5 days isnt a point where I would come running to the BOI screaming "I GOT RIPPED OFF, HE TOOK MY MONEY! SCAMMER!!!"

Would you?

Doubtfully.

That was all... :D


Now heading further into the matter its begining to look like he has been scammed, but say for instance the snakes arrived on that 6th morning? Bad correspondence perhaps, but this post would have been awfully harmful and inaccurate. And since its on the BOI, it would be permanent. See what I was getting at?
 
Was not directing that to you.... In fact I already stated "but by all means..... be that way" to you. Our conversation was done. Thanks tho! :D
 
Chris, you bring up a very interesting

point about "5 days isnt a point where I would come running to the BOI screaming "I GOT RIPPED OFF, HE TOOK MY MONEY! SCAMMER!!!"

So the lesson here is a simple one..............keep the lines of communications open, and these premature concerns to the BOI will not occur. I agree with you if their was a delay, but we live in a world of instant communication. How about a phone call, if not a return email, or even a message of any kind just informing the buyer that their will be a delay, that the snakes will be sent, ...................how about something! which has to be better than nothing when that kind of money is involved.

You are also correct , the BOI has an infinite memory, and if this persons name gets "searched" I hope this thread comes up just like people should know who are slow payers with their credit cards and other obligations.

I hope that people see that this person, has held onto someones money without even the courtesy of a response. Thats not to say that he is a scam artist or a crook, but people should be made aware of the fact that if you send money to this person or business, you may not get any response until he feels like sending it to you! ..........and this gives me plenty of concern.

Now I think you and I both know the outcome of this thread, I hope I am wrong, and I hope you are right about the author being premature in his actions, but right now $ 500. is gone!
 
yes, the outcome is looking quite grim at the moment. I wish him the best... :(
 
Here's my answer

I terminate people who don't call or show up to work for 3 consecutive days. Bottom Line=Veasna Muth, You're Fired!
JMHO
David Scarboro
Dahlonega, Ga.
 
There are two or three points being pushed (over and over again) on this thread....

1st: The person about whom this thread is written has failed to be in communication for a week. Seems likely that at worst he's your average scoundrel, at best he's rotten at communication but the deal will be completed satisfactorily (sort of) for all concerned. We all agree that taking $450 and giving nothing for it IS the action of a BAD GUY. So time will show if this individual is a bad guy or not.

2nd: Everyone uses the BOI in their own way. To some it is a location of "last resort" that they would go to after trying very diligently to solve their issues with the offending party. To others it is a place to go to the instant there is even the slightest suspicion of nefarious behaviour, regardless of the truthfulness of the suspicion. Most of us are somewhere in between. We all have our opinion and our opinions are NOT WRONG.

3rd: it's easy if you've avoided car accidents, earthquakes, other natural disasters to believe that there is very little, or even no single thing, that would keep you from being in contact with someone on a daily basis, if only to communicate your delay. Sure it is not that frequent that it happens, but it DOES happen. One midnight I was up late creating a test to give to my math students the next day. Suddenly I was doubled over in pain and my boyfriend had to rush me to the emergency room. A week and two surgeries later I was released from the hospital. It was another week before I could sit at my computer. And as I was doubled in agony before the first surgery, and after it awaiting the second to fix the problems created by the first, I gave no thought to my online interactions. At that time I didn't work with live animals, but I did do online transactions, I had auctions running, and auctions I'd bid on, and all of those things went by the wayside. I was very lucky that I received no bad feedback from the people involved. Luckily I was in contact with them before they took it that far, though they had emailed me several times and were starting to head towards that 'bad feedback' stage, but they weren't too quick, and my online reputation was not destroyed. Accidents DO happen, as do difficulties that keep people from doing what they know is right and proper. LIFE happens.

Good luck getting your money or your critters. Hopefully this is just one of those difficulties that will be quickly resolved to the satisfaction of all involved.
 
Re: Here's my answer

David Scarboro said:
I terminate people who don't call or show up to work for 3 consecutive days. Bottom Line=Veasna Muth, You're Fired!
JMHO
David Scarboro
Dahlonega, Ga.
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Hey David-

I want to work for you!!!! 3 days? No call, no show for 1 day your fired!!! Your too nice. Tell your employees I said so.

Bthacker
 
Sasheena, we all understand

that things can happen. Just as you mentioned your story about being hospitalized, I too had some difficulties several years ago when I had my heart attack. Unexpected but nevertheless , threw everything into a topsy turvy spin. BUT

I was not holding $ 450.00 , nor would I make no attempt to get in touch with the buyer. Come on now, how about a simple email, or better yet a phone call. If not from the seller than maybe the sellers friend, wife, girlfriend , associate, etc. .........how about anybody!

Your story as well as mine, were acts of God. Medical problems, family problems, even the draft can influence why someone may not respond, but lets call a rip off a rip off. In this case, we have a problem here.

Even if it does eventually gets resolved. I am glad that others will have an opportunity to see how this seller operates and how his business methods leave much to be desired.
 
hmmmm,i still thinks its shady

well, i can understand that its may take a few days to get it shipped out, however there is no excuse for the person to stop returning emails or calling you back after he received the money. do you think maybe somethings wrong with the snake and maybe he is stalling? its still a little strange why he stopped calling you back, unless he maybe got annoyed because it waas 5 days , and figured he would respond or ship whenever it was good for him. well i there i go again analyzing things too much, let me know what happens. he still should at l4east call or email you back, dj
 
also i must point out

that this guy vonmouth or whatever, also had a positive feed back on a previous bio post and the person glorified his quick response and fast shipping. so maybe there is something going in his life or maybe he is ticked off right now and isnt responding. still he should still return your calls since he has your money.dj
 
I am now convinced that you have been scammed my friend.....

We just received the following email earlier today in response to one of our ads on kingsnake! I will try to get some information out of him, but it is obvious he is alive and well.



i am interested in uying one of your hets..i wanted to know if you do any payments on them..or what would i need to do to put a hold on one of them?...i was interested in getting the 100% het pied male....how lond do i have to pay it off..thanks..veasna

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whoaaaaa, so they are gunna buy some hets, and breed them to the females you bought but they never sent you. sound like they are busy alright.
 
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