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Bad Guy Bad Apple Craig Wyatt.

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So after talking a few days with this individual I was like "what the heck" so I purchased a panther I wanted for 200 shipped. Sounded like a good idea at the time.

Upon receiving him I noticed he was severely dehydrated. He literally was licking my fingers. Currently I had him outside in natural sunlight today due to the signs of MBD I saw as well as it was a beautiful day outside and felt it was only right after he was stuck in a box.

Craig Wyatt did not tell me anything was wrong with this panther. Assuming he did not know something was wrong. Or if he did know. Not pointing any fingers initially. Assuming he doesn't want to take responsibility for it.

Also said he would not take full responsibility if he shipped on Thursday for Friday delivery if it did get held up.

Overall having 14 years with panthers as well as veiled. I have never seen one with mbd this bad.

Craig still claims it doesn't have mbd but I'm very positive it does, he decided to have his friends contact me.

He has refunded my money. I told him I would not leave a review on him. But since he kept accusing me of being in the wrong when I tried to confront him and ask for the truth he ignored the situation.

He stated to keep the Panther for a few weeks. I told him I would return him upon winter end. Due to me seeing the shape he came in I have to work with this Panther to insure it did go back healthier than it showed up to my door.

This individual was a very nice guy up until I questioned his supplements, and his housing.

I also asked him for a picture of his housing setup to be sure he was taken good care of as well as to recreate his original environment so he would be less stressed out.

Craig Refused.

I told this individual I would not judge him or his experience in anyway. I asked him if he knew anything about mbd. He watched the video and instantly blamed "wind" or focusing on his body rather than his feet.

I posted a second video this evening which is not as bad as earlier today due to me dosing him as well as natural sunlight. In order for me to be completely satisfied with this panthers health. I will have to closely focus on him for a few weeks in natural out door light. Then bring him back inside. I don't appreciate being mislead, lied to.

I'm sure his friends will chime in this post and back him up 100% before they look at all the possibilities but this is my review on this individual have a good evening BoI


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MBD Thread: http://www.chameleonforums.com/thre...-like-how-it-happens-and-how-to-fix-it.95071/

My Thread: http://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/mbd-or-no.145637/

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wow this is the most detailed BoI I have ever seen I contacted this guy in the past and thought he was pretty shady. Because he didn't like asking many questions I had to ask.
 
Wow I have gotten chams from Craig he ships though ship your reptile & uses there shipping box & I never had anything bad from him where's the picture of the Cham that's what we need to see
 
You know I refunded you because even though you are completely wrong I didn't want any problems. My reputation is pretty good and I wanted to keep it clean. And now that you have posted this it is not clean anymore. And you are in the wrong. You have successfully scammed me out of a healthy panther. Your claims are completely bogus and you know it.
I told you that I would not guarantee Friday delivery and you chose to still have him delivered. You agreed to those terms yourself. I have them in text.
Now you have my panther and the money. I am opening a PayPal dispute with you. I only paid you back under threat and I have the text to prove it.
I don't know why you posted a pic of the red body because he's completely unrelated to what you stole from.

You successfully scammed me 100%. You have my Panther and you have the money.
SELLERS BEWARE!!!
 
What u refunded him and he won't send the Cham back u got scammed Craig what's this guys name u need to post it so he can't scam anyone else I bet there's other people that he's done this to
 
Craig Wyatt said:
You know I refunded you because even though you are completely wrong I didn't want any problems. My reputation is pretty good and I wanted to keep it clean. And now that you have posted this it is not clean anymore. And you are in the wrong. You have successfully scammed me out of a healthy panther. Your claims are completely bogus and you know it.
I told you that I would not guarantee Friday delivery and you chose to still have him delivered. You agreed to those terms yourself. I have them in text.
Now you have my panther and the money. I am opening a PayPal dispute with you. I only paid you back under threat and I have the text to prove it.
I don't know why you posted a pic of the red body because he's completely unrelated to what you stole from.

You successfully scammed me 100%. You have my Panther and you have the money.
SELLERS BEWARE!!!
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Stole? I more or less saved a panther from death. Tell your defendant Mrwebb to stop trying so hard.

Clearly if you cared about your reputation you would of left me alone. Furthermore you pushed me to post this review and thats upon you.

And I didnt force you to refund me, I did not hold a gun to your head, I did not hack your paypal. You refunded me either because you knew you were wrong or you knew I was going to catch you eventually.

And "stole" funny how you gave me permission to keep him a few weeks and if anything changed in a short period of time to return your money. Clearly I agreed. Oh yeah Also offered to ship him back once he was completely healthy even though you claim he is perfect. After winter.
 
Ryan. I'm not sure who you are. If you asked a question and I didn't answer it I opologize. I get swamped with emails and I do my very best to answer everyone. I don't do this for a living. I have a full time job. My job combined with breeding panthers takes most of my time. Sorry if I missed a question.
 
I think this would be more fairly posted as an inquiry thread, not a bad guy. I don't know much about chams so I don't know about the MBD symptoms or how to evaluate that. However, you got a refund? and are keeping the cham for now? That's not really "bad guy" material.

What date did the animal ship, and what date was it received? I don't see an issue regarding no guarantee about Thursday shipping; there are plenty of shippers who don't want to take the risk of the animal getting held up over the weekend.

I guess maybe I'm not understanding the issue - is it that you think he isn't providing good care? Hopefully some folks who know about chams will chime in. I don't have the knowledge base to have an opinion on that part.
 
Craig Wyatt said:
You know I refunded you because even though you are completely wrong I didn't want any problems. My reputation is pretty good and I wanted to keep it clean. And now that you have posted this it is not clean anymore. And you are in the wrong. You have successfully scammed me out of a healthy panther. Your claims are completely bogus and you know it.
I told you that I would not guarantee Friday delivery and you chose to still have him delivered. You agreed to those terms yourself. I have them in text.
Now you have my panther and the money. I am opening a PayPal dispute with you. I only paid you back under threat and I have the text to prove it.
I don't know why you posted a pic of the red body because he's completely unrelated to what you stole from.

You successfully scammed me 100%. You have my Panther and you have the money.
SELLERS BEWARE!!!
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mwebb said:
What u refunded him and he won't send the Cham back u got scammed Craig what's this guys name u need to post it so he can't scam anyone else I bet there's other people that he's done this to
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you both can keep playing butt to butt. Don't make me get into the text messages next..
 
Dunner Reptiles said:
He has refunded my money. I told him I would not leave a review on him.
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So far, we know that he backs his sales and gave you a refund because you were not satisfied, and that you say things and then do the opposite (AKA lie).

Dunner Reptiles said:
I told this individual I would not judge him
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Dunner Reptiles said:
This individual was a very nice guy up until I questioned his supplements, and his housing.
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Sounds like a judgment to me.
I don't know if your critter is ill, and if it is, Craig did the right thing by refunding you. Please post more facts about the MBD (not links) and post the vet report.
 
Lucille said:
So far, we know that he backs his sales and gave you a refund because you were not satisfied, and that you say things and then do the opposite (AKA lie).




Sounds like a judgment to me.
I don't know if your critter is ill, and if it is, Craig did the right thing by refunding you. Please post more facts about the MBD (not links) and post the vet report.
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Metabolic Bone Disorder (MBD), aside from dehydration, is another most common death of chameleons in captivity. It is extremely fatal if not treated as soon as possible. If treated early, the chameleon can survive and live a quite normal life. Unfortunately, the condition of the limbs is irreversible. The best way to cure MBD is to prevent it from happening at all.

MBD is a degenerative disease caused by poor ratio of Calcium and Phosphorus in the chameleon’s body. The chameleon’s bone structure is destroyed progressively, until the bone no longer able to support the chameleon’s body. Many numbers of causes can lead to MBD. But, the most common thing comes from poor nutrition, poor or lack of supplementing, and the absence of UVB light in the husbandry. Unfortunately, captive breed chameleons often get this debilitating sickness due to the owner’s lack of knowledge in the proper caring facts.

" Signs of metabolic bone disease include hard knobs in the long bones of the legs, bumps along the vertebral column of the back and tail, bilateral softening or hard swelling of the lower jaw, and softening of the plastron or carapace. All of these signs may be felt before they can be seen, making a careful physical exam important. Visible signs of moderate to severe MBD include jerky gait when walking, repeated tremors and twitches in the limbs and muscles of the legs and toes when at rest, and shakiness when being held. (The occasional single myoclonic jerk that happens is not considered indicative of MBD.)"

source - http://www.anapsid.org/mbd.html
 
And this guy's name is not Mark. It's James Bland.
The second he sent me a text this morning saying something was wrong I responded to send him back for a full refund. We went back and forth and he bullied me into getting the money and the panther.
My good name is the most important thing to me and $200 isn't worth it to me for the hassle of this bogus thread being posted.
But here we are. He still posted this bogus thread and he has my chameleon.
 
Craig Wyatt said:
Ryan. I'm not sure who you are. If you asked a question and I didn't answer it I opologize. I get swamped with emails and I do my very best to answer everyone. I don't do this for a living. I have a full time job. My job combined with breeding panthers takes most of my time. Sorry if I missed a question.
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Naturally, you would not remember, as he shares an exact IP match with your accuser.
 
And the vet report? I'm sure you must have taken this critter to the vet, right?
 
cbackwoodsgeckos said:
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This is a Panther Chameleon with MBD :) sorry you got scammed Craig. It's a shame there is so much bad in his world


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lmfao.. Thats a late sign of MBD

"Visible signs of moderate to severe MBD include jerky gait when walking, repeated tremors and twitches in the limbs and muscles of the legs and toes when at rest, and shakiness when being held. (The occasional single myoclonic jerk that happens is not considered indicative of MBD.)"

source - http://www.anapsid.org/mbd.html

go look at the video fits the description. He has early signs MBD..
 
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