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Bad Guy Bad Apple Craig Wyatt.

He is taking a nap for now since he keeps littering the thread with posts while his identity is seemingly inaccurate despite being told not to do so until the matter is clarified.
 
And as I posted before,iv just received 4,FOUR,just this past Tues morn,perfect specimens,twitch,hell they all twitch and shake,its a natural reflexatory motion genetically encoded to ward off predation in the wild....just sayin
 
If he wants to shoot me for having some of the finest panther chameleon available in the USA well I guess I'll let him. What he prob wants to do is come to mY house then shoot me and steal my whole collection. Lmao
Then he will have one of the nicest collections around.
He has a really start with the Panther he ripped me off for. He is from my Picasso line. That line throws the best yellow bodies available. Period.
Here's one of his brothers. Fresh pic just took it. When he gets a little older you will need sunglasses to look at him.
 

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And since now he's banned:( can I talk you guys into helping me out getting back my boy. I think if you guys called him or texted him and were "nice" and said just give the guy back him chameleon. Maybe it would work. Maybe it wouldn't but it's worth a shot.
I'm gonna tell you what's to come. "I'll give him back but you have to pay a $700 vet bill"
MARK MY WORDS. This def is not this guys first rodeo. He's got all the scammer hallmarks. If he really has as many chameleon as he says he has I bet he got a great deal of them scammers others.
If nothing comes from this and I take a $200 hit then so be it. Atleast fauna exposed yet another scammer.
Thanks guys!! YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!! I'm so happy to know I can count on my fauna family. Sincerely thank you all.
 
He simply put Mark instead of Michael/Mike. He probably cannot keep everything straight. Probably had his false ID on the brain while talking about Mike and there just was not enough room to contain both pieces of information at the same time.
 
Dunner Reptiles said:
Whether or not this chameleon has MBD will be the standpoint. I don't mind admitting I am wrong if I am wrong but clearly I can post videos of my veiled and their limbs don't twice like the have a bi polar disorder. I am highly positive this panther has a small case of mbd. I'm not blaming Craig for knowing this. I am only aggravated because if he saw these issues before he shipped you would think he would question himself?
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The video that you posted does not provide any indication that the chameleon has MBD. That movement is not the same kind of twitching that you believe would be found in a reptile with MBD. It is a normal movement.

For the record the fact that there are no obvious kinks in the limbs etc does not mean that an animal does not have MBD. The earliest cases of MBD can only be diagnosed with an x-ray to determine the amount of calcification of the bones. As a result if the OP is going to try to hang his hat on MBD, he also needs a correctly interpreted x-ray showing the presence of insufficient calcification of the skeleton.

If your going to make a claim based on a non-medical diagnosis then you should also choose a much better source of information such as the following
Divers, Stephen J., and Douglas R. Mader, eds. Reptile medicine and surgery. Elsevier Health Sciences, 2005.

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I told him that I talked to several people and showed them the video. And I said they all were saying he's fine in so many words. He asked for there numbers. I said no I didn't want to drag them into this anymore. (All through text)
Then I thought about. Well he said he wanted to talk to these people so I gave him the opportunity to talk to Mike. I figured if I were only gonna choose one person out of the people I would choose a what in my opinion is the best in the biz. Mike Webb has been breeding panthers for more years than anyone I know. He was breeding them before people really knew about them. He has the most knowledge of anyone I've ever met in my life about panthers. He truly is one of the pioneers of the panther business. He's got the nicest collection out there in my opinion.
So I figured if he talked to him maybe he could get through to him. But nope. Didn't happen.
The thing is this guy Mark/James isn't a dummy I think. I truly believe he hand selected me to rip off. I have some pretty nice stuff for sale and I stellar reputation to protect. So he flat out used it against me. Basically he blackmailed/extorted me to get what he wanted. He new I would protect my reputation even if I had to take it in the butt. (Which I did)
But now that it's public I would sooooo appreciate any help I could get from you guys.
Even if I get nothing in return at the very least I exposed yet another fauna scammer.
I just texted him. One of the things I asked was "what is your real name". Guess what no response.
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In watching the videos, I see some natural cham type movements but do not see any deformities nor obvious evidence of MBD.

Also, in the first video, the cham is holding his weight just fine, on only his two hind legs, without an unnatural stance or grasp.
Again, in the first video (toward, and at, the end), it appears that the cham is moving, naturally, as he just starts to walk. Only, interestingly enough, cannot view exactly how he walks since the video was stopped just as the cham was going to start walking.

I don't believe Craig did anything wrong or that he sent an ill cham (especially not knowingly).
I do believe that the OP (whoever he is) is in possession of a free, healthy cham, at Craig's expense.

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