LV426
New member
The dragon that I have posted in this thread came fromColby Laidlaw. The user name on reptileauction is colbyandamber. When I received her I contacted him immediately and informed him of what you see in the pictures. I also informed him of what you can't see, she's lethargic and mostly unrepsonsive.
(PICS)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage4.jpg
The following is a transcript of what has transpired between Mr. Laidlaw and myself since Tuesday when she was delivered.
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
She's here and alive but she's REALLY skinny. Is there anything wrong with her? I soaked her when she got here and settled her in under a heat lamp as she was a bit chilled. I tried feeding her and she wasn't interested. She just lays under the heat lamp with her eyes closed. I realize she might be stressed but I've had dragons shipped before and they never behaved this way. Please get back to me ASAP, I'm really worried about her.
Thanks,
Rachel
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey,
so was there any waste or anything in the bag? shes not that far out of
burmation so she still not filled out, but she was not like really skinny.
as far as eating what are you offering her? try greens at frist. then she
can get so water in her to. as far as ativety she is prolly still cold and
stressed. just give her some time to warm up and get used to her new
surroundings, also she loves wax worms. and they will help add weight.
let me now whats happening.
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
There was a little waste in the bag. I offered collards and turnip greens, papaya, shredded apple, winter squash, crickets, silk worms, and a nightcrawler. I gave her some water. I put her in a warm shower and she licked the water off her nose . She has a small dish in her enclosure if she wants anymore. I left the greens and veggies in with her but took out the insects. I will go get some waxies.
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey, she will come around so dont stess, just give her some time.
pretty soon she will be running around your house licking everything.
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Does she have a specific eating schedule? I just get worried if they don't act ok. When I got my male dragon he came leaping out of the bag and ate everything in sight. I know not all are like that but she just seems so sluggish even after she got warm.
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey, i had greens in there all day, and would feed crikets, and worms three times a day. in she in with others?
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
No I have her by herself. I didn't want to stress her and my others are smaller and younger than she is.
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
She's still not eating. I tried everything from greens to waxworms. She's unresponsive when I pick her up. She just lays there and barely opens her eyes. I got a little pedialyte in her at the vet's recommendation and I'm bringing her in first thing. I'll let you know what he says.
Rachel
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey,
i dont understand why she's acting like that, i could see the frist few
hours. were the heat packs still warm when she got there? does she
look dehydarated?
colby
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On 2/15/06, LV426 <[email protected]> wrote:
Colby,
The heat packs were no longer warm but I can't think that the cold weather made her emaciated. Those are the words my vet used. Emaciated. She has absolutely NO fat reserves. The fat pads on her head are sunken in, her ribs are sticking out, her hip bones are extremely prominent, and her legs are skinny. She has had nothing but diarrhea since I got her that was filled with yellow runny liquid and 3 undigested superworms. Yes, she is dehydrated and she was dehydrated before I even got her. I've been syringe feeding her pedialyte every 2 hours and I got some pureed vegetables in her. She's still very unresponsive if even worse. She lies on the basking area looking like a corpse. The vet took a fecal sample and will be calling me this evening to tell me what he found and if she needs to be on medication. He feels from her condition that she has a severe parasitic infection. Needless to say I'm not happy at all. I've spent $75 so far in just a vet visit, fecal exam, syringes, and a vitamin A shot. I'm not sure what your idea of healthy is. I have a return visit to the vet this evening and I will update you again when I return. I really would like a refund to the money that I paid you since obviously you sent me a sick animal. I've never once had to ask for a refund from any of the people I have ordered reptiles from before and I've had some come in with various conditions but this is the absolute worst I have ever had come to me. I can't say anymore right now because I am too upset. I will contact you later this evening after the 2nd vet visit.
Sincerely,
Rachel
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Well this is why she is acting this way.
Protozoans, some nematodes, coccidea oocysts, no live ones but still not good. She has an intestinal bacterial bloom which gives her a lovely odor.She's also calcium deficient. So much so that it causes her to have really bad leg twitches.
So a dose of strongid, gentamycin, and emtryl. I have to give her calcium mixed with chicken babyfood every 4 hours. Pedialyte every 4 hours and plain water every 6 hours to get her rehydrated. He also gave her something that is supposed to be an appetite stimulant. He said she should start eating on her own in a day but if not to continue feeding pureed foods. I have to come back next week for another dose of meds.
This is really unacceptable by any standards.
The vet said she should live but that is rather beside the point. I've just spent $100 in one day on an animal that was supposed to be healthy.
From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
Rachel
I understand not only your frustration, but your anger as well, as I am
feeling my fair share of emotions right now as well. I had and loved that
dragon for a long time, we had our daily swimming routines, as well as our occasional chasing games around the house. From the time that I got her, until the time that I sent her out- her appearance hasn't changed much. She has always been a happy healthy looking girl. Her wait did fluctuate on occasion- but my vet told me that burmation has a lot to do with that. She was always a good eater- please understand that just because she didn't put on a bunch of weight- doesnt mean that she was underfed- she was a hefty eater and loved her worms and crickets. If I ever had any reason to think that she wasn't healthy, I'd have taken her to the vet immediatly, but like I said- she was a happy healthy girl. The dragon that your describing is not the dragon I knew, which makes it really hard for me to completely believe what your saying- and consider issuing a refund. There was a time that we battled mites, but to my knowledge, had gotten that cleared up. As far as the internal parasites go- there would have been signs that something was wrong internally- that would have grabbed my attention, as I spent a fair amount of time with her each day- and nothing ever struck me- her feces
remained normal. Reading your e-mail I see that your vet used the word
emaciated- which does more then shock me. This dragon loved to eat, and enjoyed playing in the water. A dragon that is active in this way- can and will not become emaciated. If she is in fact sick- and does need treatment- it has come to surprise you as much as it has me. I cannot see issuing a refund for the simple fact that the dragon your describing does not match the dragon I had for over a year. She has never had leg twitches before....? She rode around on my shoulders daily- if something like this would have been happening I'd have noticed it. If you are as unsatisfied as you appear to be in your e-mails- then you are welcome to send the dragon back and I am willing to pay a part of the shipping to do so. You've said in your e-mail that you've received reptiles in the mail before- hence, you should know enough to give them a couple days to adjust. I suggest that you should have done just that, if things were still going poorly- then it would have been wise to take her into the vet at that time. You chose to take her to the vet, as soon as you did, and you chose to pay the bill- the dragon is in your hands now- and I can not be held liable for her after she has been transferred into your care. I had no intention of sending off a sick dragon, and to my knowledge, I didnt. I'm not doubting your concern or frustration, and I am not meaning to sound calloussed and cold. I loved that dragon very much.
Colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
There is no way this dragon sat on your shoulder, she can't even sit up half the time. She just lays there. I always take new arrivals to the vet when I get them to ensure they are what was promised. Looking at her on the first day I could tell that this is not the dragon you described. She isn't happy and healthy and her weight should never have gotten to what it did in brumation. She has no fat reserves. None. I've seen dragons fresh out of brumation and responsible breeders do not let their dragons completely deplete their reserves. You may have fed her but now it's all coming out the other end all undigested. At least 6 superworms have been pooped out by her, all undigested. I haven't fed her more than pureed vegetables so the superworms must have been on your end. The big detail here is they are whole. They look the same way out as they probably looked going in.
To say I am upset is a gross understatement. Not only have I been screwed and royally screwed at that, I'm stuck with a now $250+ animal that isn't worth $20. So I send her back, great, I paid your vet bills for you. I couldn't even send her back now because she wouldn't survive. Then I'm sure you wouldn't refund anything. So basically you put me in a grand catch 22.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe anything you say in this email. Everyone on the net, in person, and the DVM that has seen this animal all agree she is not healthy at all. I can video her twitching. I can take pictures of her ribs sticking out like a carcass in the desert. I can show you her head with sunken in fat reserves. I can even send you a fecal sample with undigested superworms. I could send you a vet report with the listing of what the vet found. If I waited like you said to I would be out not only $150 but also a dragon because she'd be dead.
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Here are pics of the dragon you sent me Colby. Everyone who has seen them can obviously see she is sick so why is it that you can't? Another thing, why would you tell me not to take her to a vet? Most people with nothing to hide actually recommend taking animals to the vet when you first get them. Just look at the BOI on Fauna and anytime there has been a dispute over a sick animal a vet visit is recommended and required.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage4.jpg
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
The ribs in your pictures are absolutely sickening, I can see that it's my
dragon- but I can't get myself to believe that she has become what you have sent in the pics. It's astonishing- I feel absolutely sick. I dont know
what happened to her- but that isnt the dragon that I sent. And one day in the mail cant make that big of a difference- so it makes no sense to me. I love that dragon- and never would I allow her to get like that. All I can think of is that because she hasnt been eating in your care- she has become thinner then she was with me. Like I said in my other e-mails- if you want to send her back- thats fine. I didnt mean to send a sick dragon- and to my knowledge- I didnt. I dont have a mountain of money to send to you for vet bills. Especially because my vet here and I are good friends- and I wouldnt have paid near as much. I've decided that i'm not sending a refund- it's sickening to me that she looks the wya she does- and it akes me wonder what kind of a set up you had prepared for her- and what food you've been offering. I'm not blaming her condition on you- I'm just trying to figure out what went wrong here. If you feel the need to e-mail me- then continue. I really dont have anything else to say.
Colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
What difference would my set up have made? A healthy dragon does not go from healthy to emaciated in 3 days! I got her to a vet the very next day! How can you sit there and tell me that this happened only in my care? Send her back, ok then I want my original $150 plus the $100 that I have spent on her as it is. You said your friend is a vet but you didn't take her to one. I'm taking this to the BOI as well as the auction site to complain. Since you obviously admit she is in bad condition I consider that as an admission to violation to our agreement. I will return the dragon for the amount I paid plus the vet care it cost me to keep her alive. Since you were negligent in her care and her health then I think it's only fair that I be compensated for my expenses. Alternately you can send me the money that I paid for her and I will be generous and not ask for the amount paid for her shipping. You should be ashamed of yourself, treating an animal this way and then trying to claim innocence. You know perfectly well how this dragon's ribs got like that, how her overall condition got so terrible and it wasn't in the 2 and a half days in my care either as you are implying. I have been gyped before in purchases and never before have I asked for refund but this, the condition and treatment of this animal appauls and offends me. I just want the money back to assist in her further care of which she will need a great deal of over the next few months.
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This was my last communication so far. I think this is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my life and the worst case of the blame game ever. He admits she is his dragon, he admits she looks like hell, and yet somehow this is my fault?
Rachel Puckett
(PICS)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage4.jpg
The following is a transcript of what has transpired between Mr. Laidlaw and myself since Tuesday when she was delivered.
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
She's here and alive but she's REALLY skinny. Is there anything wrong with her? I soaked her when she got here and settled her in under a heat lamp as she was a bit chilled. I tried feeding her and she wasn't interested. She just lays under the heat lamp with her eyes closed. I realize she might be stressed but I've had dragons shipped before and they never behaved this way. Please get back to me ASAP, I'm really worried about her.
Thanks,
Rachel
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey,
so was there any waste or anything in the bag? shes not that far out of
burmation so she still not filled out, but she was not like really skinny.
as far as eating what are you offering her? try greens at frist. then she
can get so water in her to. as far as ativety she is prolly still cold and
stressed. just give her some time to warm up and get used to her new
surroundings, also she loves wax worms. and they will help add weight.
let me now whats happening.
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
There was a little waste in the bag. I offered collards and turnip greens, papaya, shredded apple, winter squash, crickets, silk worms, and a nightcrawler. I gave her some water. I put her in a warm shower and she licked the water off her nose . She has a small dish in her enclosure if she wants anymore. I left the greens and veggies in with her but took out the insects. I will go get some waxies.
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey, she will come around so dont stess, just give her some time.
pretty soon she will be running around your house licking everything.
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Does she have a specific eating schedule? I just get worried if they don't act ok. When I got my male dragon he came leaping out of the bag and ate everything in sight. I know not all are like that but she just seems so sluggish even after she got warm.
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey, i had greens in there all day, and would feed crikets, and worms three times a day. in she in with others?
colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
No I have her by herself. I didn't want to stress her and my others are smaller and younger than she is.
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 14, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
She's still not eating. I tried everything from greens to waxworms. She's unresponsive when I pick her up. She just lays there and barely opens her eyes. I got a little pedialyte in her at the vet's recommendation and I'm bringing her in first thing. I'll let you know what he says.
Rachel
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
hey,
i dont understand why she's acting like that, i could see the frist few
hours. were the heat packs still warm when she got there? does she
look dehydarated?
colby
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On 2/15/06, LV426 <[email protected]> wrote:
Colby,
The heat packs were no longer warm but I can't think that the cold weather made her emaciated. Those are the words my vet used. Emaciated. She has absolutely NO fat reserves. The fat pads on her head are sunken in, her ribs are sticking out, her hip bones are extremely prominent, and her legs are skinny. She has had nothing but diarrhea since I got her that was filled with yellow runny liquid and 3 undigested superworms. Yes, she is dehydrated and she was dehydrated before I even got her. I've been syringe feeding her pedialyte every 2 hours and I got some pureed vegetables in her. She's still very unresponsive if even worse. She lies on the basking area looking like a corpse. The vet took a fecal sample and will be calling me this evening to tell me what he found and if she needs to be on medication. He feels from her condition that she has a severe parasitic infection. Needless to say I'm not happy at all. I've spent $75 so far in just a vet visit, fecal exam, syringes, and a vitamin A shot. I'm not sure what your idea of healthy is. I have a return visit to the vet this evening and I will update you again when I return. I really would like a refund to the money that I paid you since obviously you sent me a sick animal. I've never once had to ask for a refund from any of the people I have ordered reptiles from before and I've had some come in with various conditions but this is the absolute worst I have ever had come to me. I can't say anymore right now because I am too upset. I will contact you later this evening after the 2nd vet visit.
Sincerely,
Rachel
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Well this is why she is acting this way.
Protozoans, some nematodes, coccidea oocysts, no live ones but still not good. She has an intestinal bacterial bloom which gives her a lovely odor.She's also calcium deficient. So much so that it causes her to have really bad leg twitches.
So a dose of strongid, gentamycin, and emtryl. I have to give her calcium mixed with chicken babyfood every 4 hours. Pedialyte every 4 hours and plain water every 6 hours to get her rehydrated. He also gave her something that is supposed to be an appetite stimulant. He said she should start eating on her own in a day but if not to continue feeding pureed foods. I have to come back next week for another dose of meds.
This is really unacceptable by any standards.
The vet said she should live but that is rather beside the point. I've just spent $100 in one day on an animal that was supposed to be healthy.
From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
Rachel
I understand not only your frustration, but your anger as well, as I am
feeling my fair share of emotions right now as well. I had and loved that
dragon for a long time, we had our daily swimming routines, as well as our occasional chasing games around the house. From the time that I got her, until the time that I sent her out- her appearance hasn't changed much. She has always been a happy healthy looking girl. Her wait did fluctuate on occasion- but my vet told me that burmation has a lot to do with that. She was always a good eater- please understand that just because she didn't put on a bunch of weight- doesnt mean that she was underfed- she was a hefty eater and loved her worms and crickets. If I ever had any reason to think that she wasn't healthy, I'd have taken her to the vet immediatly, but like I said- she was a happy healthy girl. The dragon that your describing is not the dragon I knew, which makes it really hard for me to completely believe what your saying- and consider issuing a refund. There was a time that we battled mites, but to my knowledge, had gotten that cleared up. As far as the internal parasites go- there would have been signs that something was wrong internally- that would have grabbed my attention, as I spent a fair amount of time with her each day- and nothing ever struck me- her feces
remained normal. Reading your e-mail I see that your vet used the word
emaciated- which does more then shock me. This dragon loved to eat, and enjoyed playing in the water. A dragon that is active in this way- can and will not become emaciated. If she is in fact sick- and does need treatment- it has come to surprise you as much as it has me. I cannot see issuing a refund for the simple fact that the dragon your describing does not match the dragon I had for over a year. She has never had leg twitches before....? She rode around on my shoulders daily- if something like this would have been happening I'd have noticed it. If you are as unsatisfied as you appear to be in your e-mails- then you are welcome to send the dragon back and I am willing to pay a part of the shipping to do so. You've said in your e-mail that you've received reptiles in the mail before- hence, you should know enough to give them a couple days to adjust. I suggest that you should have done just that, if things were still going poorly- then it would have been wise to take her into the vet at that time. You chose to take her to the vet, as soon as you did, and you chose to pay the bill- the dragon is in your hands now- and I can not be held liable for her after she has been transferred into your care. I had no intention of sending off a sick dragon, and to my knowledge, I didnt. I'm not doubting your concern or frustration, and I am not meaning to sound calloussed and cold. I loved that dragon very much.
Colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 15, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Colby,
There is no way this dragon sat on your shoulder, she can't even sit up half the time. She just lays there. I always take new arrivals to the vet when I get them to ensure they are what was promised. Looking at her on the first day I could tell that this is not the dragon you described. She isn't happy and healthy and her weight should never have gotten to what it did in brumation. She has no fat reserves. None. I've seen dragons fresh out of brumation and responsible breeders do not let their dragons completely deplete their reserves. You may have fed her but now it's all coming out the other end all undigested. At least 6 superworms have been pooped out by her, all undigested. I haven't fed her more than pureed vegetables so the superworms must have been on your end. The big detail here is they are whole. They look the same way out as they probably looked going in.
To say I am upset is a gross understatement. Not only have I been screwed and royally screwed at that, I'm stuck with a now $250+ animal that isn't worth $20. So I send her back, great, I paid your vet bills for you. I couldn't even send her back now because she wouldn't survive. Then I'm sure you wouldn't refund anything. So basically you put me in a grand catch 22.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe anything you say in this email. Everyone on the net, in person, and the DVM that has seen this animal all agree she is not healthy at all. I can video her twitching. I can take pictures of her ribs sticking out like a carcass in the desert. I can show you her head with sunken in fat reserves. I can even send you a fecal sample with undigested superworms. I could send you a vet report with the listing of what the vet found. If I waited like you said to I would be out not only $150 but also a dragon because she'd be dead.
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Here are pics of the dragon you sent me Colby. Everyone who has seen them can obviously see she is sick so why is it that you can't? Another thing, why would you tell me not to take her to a vet? Most people with nothing to hide actually recommend taking animals to the vet when you first get them. Just look at the BOI on Fauna and anytime there has been a dispute over a sick animal a vet visit is recommended and required.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/LV-426/Mirage4.jpg
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From: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: [email protected]
The ribs in your pictures are absolutely sickening, I can see that it's my
dragon- but I can't get myself to believe that she has become what you have sent in the pics. It's astonishing- I feel absolutely sick. I dont know
what happened to her- but that isnt the dragon that I sent. And one day in the mail cant make that big of a difference- so it makes no sense to me. I love that dragon- and never would I allow her to get like that. All I can think of is that because she hasnt been eating in your care- she has become thinner then she was with me. Like I said in my other e-mails- if you want to send her back- thats fine. I didnt mean to send a sick dragon- and to my knowledge- I didnt. I dont have a mountain of money to send to you for vet bills. Especially because my vet here and I are good friends- and I wouldnt have paid near as much. I've decided that i'm not sending a refund- it's sickening to me that she looks the wya she does- and it akes me wonder what kind of a set up you had prepared for her- and what food you've been offering. I'm not blaming her condition on you- I'm just trying to figure out what went wrong here. If you feel the need to e-mail me- then continue. I really dont have anything else to say.
Colby
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From: LV426 <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 16, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Dragon Auction
To: colby laidlaw <[email protected]>
What difference would my set up have made? A healthy dragon does not go from healthy to emaciated in 3 days! I got her to a vet the very next day! How can you sit there and tell me that this happened only in my care? Send her back, ok then I want my original $150 plus the $100 that I have spent on her as it is. You said your friend is a vet but you didn't take her to one. I'm taking this to the BOI as well as the auction site to complain. Since you obviously admit she is in bad condition I consider that as an admission to violation to our agreement. I will return the dragon for the amount I paid plus the vet care it cost me to keep her alive. Since you were negligent in her care and her health then I think it's only fair that I be compensated for my expenses. Alternately you can send me the money that I paid for her and I will be generous and not ask for the amount paid for her shipping. You should be ashamed of yourself, treating an animal this way and then trying to claim innocence. You know perfectly well how this dragon's ribs got like that, how her overall condition got so terrible and it wasn't in the 2 and a half days in my care either as you are implying. I have been gyped before in purchases and never before have I asked for refund but this, the condition and treatment of this animal appauls and offends me. I just want the money back to assist in her further care of which she will need a great deal of over the next few months.
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This was my last communication so far. I think this is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my life and the worst case of the blame game ever. He admits she is his dragon, he admits she looks like hell, and yet somehow this is my fault?
Rachel Puckett
