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you want proof you got it people

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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jack cline" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: snake for sale
To: [email protected]
my 2 snakes an $500 shipped an we have a deal thanks

[email protected] wrote: I was the person selling the albino boas with the damaged eye. I no longer have any that have eye problems, but I do have 3 that are perfect. I would be willing to trade one to you for the two snakes you have and $600. I will be posting them for $700 cash later this week. Please let me know if you are interested. If you are interested, you can pay with paypal. Send the money to [email protected] Let me know what you decide. Thanks.

Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: jack cline <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: snake for sale


the reason why because i want to get me an albino boa i was going to breed the snakes but if i can sale these get some of my money back so i can save up some money an just get what i really want an albino boa an i want have the trouble of breeding an the reason why iam talking alost is because i know no one will give me what i paied for the snakes nothing is wrong with the snakes iam know snake breeder or nothing like that i wish i would of got the albino boa that someone was selling on reptileauctions.com for 450.00 buy it now with shipping that was a steel of a deal if you change your mind let me know thanks

[email protected] wrote: Why would you sell for less than you bought. Something does not sound right. You paid $75 for the one on the auction. Then you say you paid $175 for the other snake. That makes $250. Now you want to sell both for $185. SO you want to lose money. I think I will pass.

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From: jack cline <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:49:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: snake for sale


no because already have the snake to i will get it tommaro i will make a deal with you i have another snake its a baby male an its 100% albino het you buy both i will cut the price i paided 175.00 for him i ll sell you both snakes for 185.00 shipped he comes with papers too let me know asap

[email protected] wrote: Yes, I want it. Do you want me to contact the seller and tell him you agreed to drop from the winner spot.

-----Original Message-----
From: jack cline <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:01:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: snake for sale


yes i won an auction that you bidded on #15660 i changed my mine i don"t want tyhe snake its the femaile 50 het for albino let me know if you want it __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com



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[reptilebreeder]

What an idiot, it's not the snakes he needs to cull................................................

 

[dberes]

.

Let's be generous and just deal with the babies we know about and to be even more generous I'll round to a number you can work with easily.

IF he had 100 babies and 5 of those babies were deformed, that would be 5% of his production at VISABLY sub-standard. IF 5% are EXPRESSING this trait, and it IS heritable despite the lies YOU tell, let's be generous again and GUESS that 25% of the other babies are merely carrying this trait.

Now, out of that original 100, 30 or 30% of total production, are sub-standard culls that WILL, when bred down the line, produce more deformed babies.

A couple things. Do you have any links to scientific studies that prove one eye boas are a genetic trait? or prove that it is a random? or link it to incorrect incubation temps of the ovum? I have been searching the web and cannot find any. Can you point me to your sources please that prove this info?

The next thing I wanted to point out is that we do not know which of the boas produced the one eyed boas. Did each of the 4 albino or het albino females produce them or just one female?

On a side note... This whole thread smells funny.

Thank you.
Drenton Beres

 

[BoidBuilder]

Jack Cline

Can anyone who read Jack's newest post tell me where the smoking gun is? I am a teacher and I not only did not see a smoking gun, I also had to work real hard to understand what the hell he was saying. OK, gentlemen of the jury, I admit it, I am guilty.....of selling a snake to an idiot.


Oh, wilhon. I am wating for your response to the last post. Too google eyed to talk. This guy just made you look like an idiot. Got anything to say big boy? How about John Schmidt, can I get an AMEN from John Schmidt? I guess not. They are probably so engrossed in reading reruns of past threads they are not watching this one any longer.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Smells Fishy

You know what smells fishy, Drenton, if you read through the whole thread, you will find that because they jumped to a quick conclusion (LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO), they felt the need to do a personal attack on the victim. See, they are like the lawyers of rape defendants. They have no defense other than doing character assassination on the victim. Then again, since Jack is too stupid to make any sense, maybe he is the lawyer and they are the rapists. I sure feel violated by John Schmidt and Wilomn. OK, I get it now, since Jack is from Louisiana, he is practicing law by the Napoleanic Code. It says right in there that the victim gets cornpoled by the rapists lawyer. That is how this all works. Each one of the rapists is trying in their own way to make the victim look bad because they have to make themselves feel clean.

 

[bigman466]

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:58:07 -0400
From: "LaCorte, John" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
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Jack,



You can make a KILLING off this batch. If you take it and pay by 3pm, I will send it out today to that same addres for delivery by 10:30 tomorrow. You will love these/



This is the first batch of pictures.



1. 2 Foot Female Very Nice

2. 52 inch Boa Small Stripe

3. H BABY Purple/Pink w/letter H in saddle

4. Ball Python Lot Male 1800 Gm / Female 1500 gm

Two baby Balls





12 Snakes (average per snake $79) Total $950 shipped



My Paypal Account: [email protected]



You should make plenty on this haul. I am guessing right around September 12 for all the babies to start dropping. They will be all yours. I will stock you with some REAL nice snakes. I am waiting for the Super Red – to – Guyana . Babies will be worth a ton for both of us.



I appreciate your business, and I am happy we met.



John

 

[BoidBuilder]

John & Wil - It should have been a love story!

OMG, 15 whole minutes and no response from the big boys. That's right, I forgot. It is Tuesday night. Tuesday night is when all the big boys on the BOI get together and congratulate themselves on a job well done. After that, they probably run around in weird costumes and howl at the moon. No, sorry, thats the KKK. That's right, after the congratulation ceremony they all pull out their Nazi costumes and practice the New World Order of the BOI. Only big time soothsayers allowed. And they are always right - even when they are wrong.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Jack Cline is baaaaack

Damn good job there of attempting to present another smoking gun, Jack. You are an idiot, a coward, and as a Cajun, you put the three together and it gives you the right to make moonshine in your bathtub and howl at the moon when it snows.

Please, Jack, you are embarrassing yourself. People think you should be culled for the good of the human race. Anyone stupid enough to believe anything you say from now on, should be treated for cataracs, or have a lobotomy.

Oh, yeah, John and Wilon will probably believe you. Their own credibility has been called into play hee. They will do or say anything to still be considered partially intelligent. I told them to gve it up, but they just keep trying to get called intelligent.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Please stop

I can not stand any further self humiliation from you guys. I will say goodbye on this note. John, Wil, your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

Remember folks, gave them the opportunity to walk away with none of their dignity, but still partially respecting themselves. A lesser man would have taken that, too.

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

john lacorte=racist punk

Hey Gino,

I keep trying to get out, but they keep pulling me back in. You should understand that.

Hey John Lacorte,

Save the racist innuendo. I have heard it all before. You are not the least bit witty or even legitimate, for that matter. Why do I get the honor of being inundated with your tripe? Did something that I say hit close to home? Dont you have some more 'non-genetic' one-eyed albinos to sell???

You are filth.

Sincerely,

Gino 'A Proud Puerto Rican' Beniquez

 

[BoidBuilder]

Respectable Getaway

I am going to look at the snakes on Kingsnake. It is a much better atmosphere and the ambience is a lot better, too.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Gino

Gino,

I did not invite you into this dance. You invited yourself. I also did not make any racist comments. I am full blooded Sicilian. I grew up in the Jersey City area. Washington Square Park was my stomping grounds for many years and I moved through Harlem pretty frequently. What I said, I said as a joke. Watch the Sopranos, its all true. LOL.

As for anything else, you came in trying to talk trash. You don't know me. Apparently you have not read the entire thread. So, why, would you trash someone you don't know for a crime he did not commit? Seems to me, it is you that is touchy, I was just making a point. Or, maybe you are John Schmidt or Wilomn just pretending to be from the old country. In that case it would be you that is the racist. Leave me alone, I leave you alone. Like I said, I did not invite you in, and you came in being a little biased yourself. You figured since I was throwing at the supreme beings of this forum, I must be wrong. Read, my friend, read.

 

[Mike Greathouse]

John V LaCorte,
I have spent the last 20 minutes perusing your Snake Pit site at Flagler.
You are to be commended for both your past and present work with the kids there. It is an impressive project and I wish you continued success with it.

I fully understand that you feel that you have been persecuted here on Fauna, but to the casual observer, there have been some inconsistencies within your posts.

By your own admission, the originator of this thread was sold an animal that was inferior. Regardless of the fact that he was fully aware of this, you have allowed a defective animal to enter the marketplace. You no longer have any control over what will be done with that animal. I think that everyone, including yourself, will agree that it should not reproduce.

One of the two that Jack received can be fixed. I BOUGHT THEM KNOWING THEY HAD A PROBLEM.
John V. LaCorte

I'm sure that this is a mistake that in hindsight, you wish that you could reverse.

At this point, I think that you need to consider just what you are now accomplishing with your follow up posts. Given the fact that you have obviously inspired your "kids" with a love of reptiles, it would seem reasonable to expect that someday they will be reading this thread. Posts in the BOI do not go away.

It would be a real shame for them to have to read what is now being written here both by and about someone that they have grown to respect and admire as a mentor.

I trust that you will continue your admirable work with these kids and I wish you much success with your project.

Good luck.

 

[cahrens]

John, While I do agree that you are trying to come off as honest here, And not trying to take away from the facts at hand here, But did you ever square it with Chris yet ???? If so I will let y'all get back to your regularly scheduled program.

Bill,
That would be a NO! In fact, nothing has happened since you stepped out. He has made no effort whatsoever to make good on this deal. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69260&highlight=LaCorte
He has also made no effort to change his ways apparently but has managed to change his e-mail address. Well I guess some people never change. -Chris

 

[Bill_Leverton]

Bill,
That would be a NO! In fact, nothing has happened since you stepped out. He has made no effort whatsoever to make good on this deal. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69260&highlight=LaCorte
He has also made no effort to change his ways apparently but has managed to change his e-mail address. Well I guess some people never change. -Chris

Chris, I sorta figured that when he blew right past the question.John why don't you step up and square with Chris, Like you swore up and down you would,Or was that just a line of Chit ??...... On another note John has quite a few names on here, So all who really want to do business with him, Tread lightly.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Peace Begets Peace - Violence begets Violence

Mike,

Let me say that at times I am a little hotheaded. I will also admit that maybe some of my comments do not shine a very good light on me, or my project. To you, because you came with respect, I will give your due.

John, Wil, you guys have done nothing but trash me all day. Mike, do you know what it is like to have your friends email you and tell you that you are getting trashed on the BOI? Or, after reading, having them email me and tell me I am being trashed by the people that should have listened to the whole story before being critical. Or how about Johnsonlink needing to win a popularity contest by putting my home number out?

Mike,

my kids and me deserve so much better than this. Even when I had told people my cause, they still took shots.

See, when I sold the snakes to Jack, I only did it because of what I saw (after a shed 4 of them were perfect) and what I was told (if 5 of 7 turned out ok, the last two were just abberations of a problem during gestation. Even when I gave the name of one of the ten people I spoke to, they still trashed me.

Tell me, Mike, with all due respect, would you want to be trashed by the very people who are supposed to police this forum and even when they saw this guy was just trashing me for his 15 min of fame, they still pursued me.

Mike,

I appreciate your candor and your support of my project. I am so tired of idiots. johnsonlink, John Schmidt, Wilomn, Gino from Da bronx. I did nothing wrong. I do understand your idea of culling the herd. But if that were true of humans, half the idiots on this planet would be dead. It is not our right to decide who lives and who dies on any plateau of life. For all most of these people on this forum know, the herd was infected some where along the line and what they prize the most would be the very reason for killing.

If you people are going to come at me for not "culling the herd" tell me why doesn't everyone jump on all the guys who are genetically altering the genes of just about every snake around. They are the money grubbers, John and Wil. Why not ply your words on them? Tell me John and Wil, do you try to come up with different morphs? If so, do you not try yourself for creating something that was never intended to be made?

Mike,

I have a 144 IQ. I am certified to teach 11 different subjects. There might not be another person in the whole United States with that many certifications. But because I do something that people frown n (not killing a creature that God made and did not intend for us to play judge, jury, and executioner. Maybe God did not want us messing up the gene pool by mating apples to oranges. I do not hear the great speakers shouting to Heaven about that. You know why, because John and Wil are probably both getting the big bucks for different morphs they created. Is that not wrong?

Mike,

I would do business with you in a heartbeat (Got anything good right now? Email me) Why? because you came at me with respect. John and Wil came at me with hate. Why you hating John? Wil? What gives you the right? I agree, Mike, that my kids might look a little bbadly on me, but after reading what some idiots said, they would have congratulated me gfor standing up to a group of idiotsw who have nothing better to do but trah the victim. I am sorry Mike, but I feel violated.

Do me a favor, you broght me to task for my words - am I the extent of your words? How about bringing the idiots who started this whole thing to task. Then I would feel some sort of vindication. Come on, Mike, make me feel your wisdon goes both ways.

Thanks Again, Mike

John

P.S. I menat it, send me a private email with what you have right now.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Bill & Chris

Bill/Chris,

You want me to wade in, no problem. I will make good, Chris. There are three reasons I have not made good. First, if you read this thread, you read about my kid's health problems and the fact that I can not even afford to pay one of my sellers. The second reason I have not made good was because when I mentioned using snakes I had, you stuck your nose up. When I asked what you wanted, you gave me my own Christmas wish list. All top shelf items. I do not blame you for trying to get what you want, but I am broke, so give it a break. I was the one that reached out to you Chris. Third, what is really funny Bill, is that you yourself told me something was fishy when Chris could not come up with any proof I had done anything wrong. Also, when he thought there was something wrong with the animal he made no attempt to take it to a vet. Why would someone not take what they say is a sick animal to the vet? he did not even make a cal to a vet. This is what you told me Bill on the phone.

Chris,

You want me to make good on something that you have no proof there was something worng and not even a call to the vet.

Call me, Chris. You havemy number. I am nt moving any further. you called me all kinds of names when I reached out. All I wanted was some appreciation for the fact that I had "stopped running" your own words. Call me. Let's talk.

Is that good guys. Thanks.

 

[BoidBuilder]

Baptism By Fire

Anyone else want a piece of me?

 

[Bill_Leverton]

,what is really funny Bill, is that you yourself told me something was fishy when Chris could not come up with any proof I had done anything wrong.

John you are so Flippen full of it, I told you and I quote That after all the time that passed that Chris didn't have proof any longer, And Don't try to boost yourself on twisting my words, I sat and talked to you time and time again about trying to straighten this out between the 2 of you and all you talked about was how sad your life was, I even offered to take some of your animals off you hands and move them for you. And Pay Chris, But all you kept trying to wheel and deal me. But you know what its all good, You are a lier and a thief and when the sun comes up day after day you will still be the same and thats a real shame. Good Luck with your Bogus life.

 

[cahrens]

Yeah John,
I did read this thread. I read about the health problems. I also just read a post where you're asking someone what they have available now. Which is it? You're broke or buying? As far as sticking my nose up, you have offered nothing that I want. Why would I accept animals that I don't want? The list I gave were things that I am looking for. Not exactly "top shelf". On the list were pastel , spider, and albino balls. I didn't take this animal to the vet because you had stated that I could return it to you for a refund. Why on earth would I take it to the vet when I was trying to give it back to you? You also told me that YOU had already taken it to the vet and they said nothing was wrong with it. You keep saying proof proof proof, how long would you expect me to keep this thing in my freezer. You come here over a year later and are now wanting proof? Get real. I wrote this deal off a long time ago and have since disposed of all the "evidence". You're saying I called you "all kinds of names". Please point me to this. I did call you a P.O.S. which you haven't done anything to change my opinion on that. You "reached out" to make good on this but didn't. As they say, "Money talks and B.S. walks" or something like that. -Chris