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I live in an apartment complex and oversee it; doing maintence, repairs, etc..

About five months ago, the owner allowed a guy to move in and he proved worthless. At 39, he still depends on mommy to pay his bills as does not work, refuses to.

Amonth later, he talks the owner into allowing a buddy of his move in. Same scenario, but he has a girlfriend and a wife. They were always fighting, throwing things, etc. They are about the same age.

Then, three months ago, another couple moves in. They all know each other. This couple is the same: they are not about to get up and work.

All are behind in rent, all use drugs, all have been in and out of jail several times since living here.

I started passing out eviction notices and the guy with the wife and girlfriend finally move out. The first guy is still here, stalling.

The last ones to move in just left yesterday-- in body bags. They OD'd on herion sometime Friday and were found yesterday. I had to go ID them.

They died in bed, in their sleep, the place was a complete mess, clothes all over the floor, food and crumbs everywhere--just plain nasty. He was about 38 and she was about 32. Their "friend" found them and left them there, but did tell someone to call 911 and vanished.Police are searching for him.

Ok, here is where it gets interesting: In the place was meth and herion and alot of needles. These people had been bumming the stuff from a local dealer and was into him for mega bucks. They also were "conspiracy theory" people. You know, the ones that think everyone is out to get them, gov't has satellites focused on them, ghosts and evil spirits chasing them, etc...

A couple cops think they committed suicide, others think it was simple OD, another suspects the dealer was tired of not getting paid and fronted them a bad batch, either pure or tainted. Someone else thinks they committed suicide because of the spirits and demons. I wonder..........
Ok, here is something else: the apartment where they were living was also the scene of a butcher style murder a few years ago. The dead folks also knew the guy killed then and reportedly, shared the same dealer.

Things that make one wonder...................
 
That's sad and scary, Michael. I bet you didn't think this sort of stuff was included in the 'job description' you got.

I think it is OK for moms to stay home and raise their children (or dads for that matter), and there are occasionally reasons why a person may be ill or injured and can't provide, but entire families that don't have anyone that makes the slightest attempt at work with no good reason drag down the whole of society, IMHO.
 
No, wasn't in the job describtion, thats for sure.

I can understand folks not working if there is legitimate reason, but these poeple around are all old enough t know they have to work. They just simply refuse to. They would rather steal what they can and stay stoned.
Did you know that N.W. Washington has the worse crystal meth problem than anywhere else? That, coupled with herion and of course, BC bud.
The local police station closes on nights and weekends, leaving just the county sheriff's office to handle the entire N W pennisula area with six deputies. And they wonder why drugs and thefts are so high.
I hope immigration gets their stuff done very soon so I can leave here.

Average rent here is about 1000 per month, average pay scale: 8/hr. Something is wrong with that.

Everything I own is in my place and triple locked. Windows are boarded shut, doors deadbolted. I only go out to take care of things and to the store. The tweakers can be seen everywhere scoping out places to rob and things to steal. They wander around yelling and screaming to themselves.

If immigration hasn't completed my papers by the end of the year, I'm out of here, headed someplace sane. Maybe Seattle. Anywhere except Port Angeles/ Clallam County.
 
It is the same (to some degree) every where. We too have those that "choose" not to earn a living.
I have clients come in and have "welfare" paying the car insurance for them, and when asked their occupations they state "I don't work".
Not I am "unemployed" just "I don't work". (those are the ones that I do not have to explain just what an "occupation" is.)
 
Why is it, do you suppose, that folks feel they don't have to work? Who do they expect to pay the bills, feed them, etc?? I know it seems harsh, but I believe in the Asian culture about this: work and save or die. No social assistance at all.
 
welfare

Now I am prob. going to infuriate a few million people.
The GOVERNMENT did this, and it will take the "people" to fix it.
I am sure at some point the "welfare system" was a good thing. Even now I will agree it has a very small place.
I think had something been done when it was realized that it was becoming "generational". ( Some families have literally been living off the "State" for multiple generations) . When asked what they will be/do when they grow up the children of these families were reported to state "I will have babies and get a check"
The system should have been brought to a screeching halt.
Welfare was not set up to be a "life choice" but to be a "step up" to a better life.
It however has been allowed to be just that "A LIFE CHOICE"
I also see the "Disability Life Choice" alot here.
If some of the people I see with serious medical conditions can get up and work daily,
why can these folks that have minor back problems not work?
(minor back problems are nothing to sneeze at but I hope you get my general idea)
The "I am ill and cannot work" attitude is often times a load of crap. These same folks that are just too ill to "work" can be found at the Mall walking for hours shopping for "name brand" items. (You know the ones you & I cannot afford, after working 40 plus hours per week). They are seen out and about town having lunch and the "good" restaurants. They are driving new cars, and getting assistance to pay the price.
I will state I do not believe that ALL people that are "benefiting" from these "systems" are SCAMMING. The problem is THAT A HUGE AMOUNT OF THEM ARE.
The scammers keep the honest from getting the help truly needed. Those that are "working" the system cause "us" to view all that use the system in the same light.
There has been allowed so much dis-use, so much corruption, that this system should be STOPPED.
Yes we need something in place for those that are truly in need, but that something should be built from the ground up all over again.
Or better yet..................................................................................
If you see some one truly "in Need", HELP. If (yeah I know) If we all helped those we know, truly know, need it and show them how to help themselves, the system would be moot.
If a "jury" of our peers (randomly chosen) had to decide true "NEED" , how many would be living off the public teat?
Just my humble opinion,
 
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Excellent post and I am certain the only ones that got pissed about it are the ones suckling the teat.

Here is an update:

I spoke with family of the girl that died tonight. An aunt, two sisters and a brother.

They are under the impression the girl was, as I suspected, a "hostage" of his. He controled every move she made and she was never allowed to talk with anyone. He was this way with her last year at her mothers' house. The girl couldn't even go to the bathroom without him in there also. She was never left alone.

The guy also had a wife that died a few years back-- OD'd on herion. The police suspected him, but never had any soild proof. He never escaped the scrutiny of it.

In the last few days before all this came to light, the small neighborhood had noticed she did not leave their place, staying inside. He also did not permit anyone to to into their place, either. Rather, he would keep visitors at bay in the parking lot, talking out in the rain.

He did not have a drivers' license, so when he left, she drove him. But, in the last few days, the "friend" drove his truck with him in it. Or, a neighbor would drive at his request because the girl was "depressed" and did not want to leave the house.

Saturday, when I ID'd them, I noticed the place had a very strong smell of death. Rigor mortis was in the beginging stages of releasing his body, hers was already released and fluids oozing and she was much "poofier" than I felt she should have been.

After removing them, under where she was laying, the sheet was covered in fluids; his area was not.

The family thinks the girl had already OD'd days before and was dead by maybe 2 or 3 days before he died of OD. They also suspect that, this time, he may be charged with the deaths of the wife and the girl, so he OD'd to avoid prosecution.

Still waiting for the coroner's report. Due tommorrow, I believe.
 
That a such a sad thing for her family. No matter if she were a willing participant or a "hostage" the outcome will forever haunt these people.
I pray they will simply take away the good memories of her and leave the rest behind.
(Except a warning to the next generation)
 
Her family are actually very nice people. The sisters are every bit as beautiful as was the one, the brother has excellent manners and is very quiet. The aunt was kind and polite. All in all, a very impressive group of people.
It is a shame when something like this happens. So many thoughts come to mind: where did this girl go bad, and why? Was she like the rest of the family before all this?...etc

But, I also see it for what it is worth: no matter the means, be it suicide, OD, tainted drugs... the outcome was slated to occur. It becomes a mater of time. Seeing it this way, I am not the least bit affected. In talking with her family, though, you soon realize she was a human just the same.
 
messed up...

That is so sad. I have a few friends who have medical problems, i know a few bipolar people and people who have had depression so bad they couldn't get up to feed themselves sometimes. It is so messed up that assholes like that guy mess up the things like welfare that are supposed to help real people with real porblems, not self centered jerks who will take down everyone else with them when they go. I just hope she can be in a better place if she was indeed suffering under this guy's control... the thought of him living with her dead body is just repulsive also. :ack2:

All i can say is take good care of your kids and be a good parent so they have a better change of avoiding this kind of end. I know way too mnay friends who had ambitions and dreams who are now working full time at blockbuster because their parents never encouraged them to do anything, much less do what they wanted to.
I'm glad at least that the bad neighbors are gone and hope you don't have any problems like this in the future.
Seattle is really nice, i know many folks who live there, it is gorgeous.
 
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