andrew_snake_sale
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hi
* my first trade and first shipping experience*
ok this was the deal,.................
on wed nov. 20th he was going to send 5 ball pythons to me, they were scedualed to arrive on thu nov. 21 2013 at 10:30am. (he told me make sure someone is there to receive the snakes) because i would be in school my mom was going to accept package.
then that afternoon (thursday nov 21 2013)we were to ship out 2 ball pythons to him. which we did. following his instructions with his arrival time and packaging. we dropped off the package that evening to our local fed ex hub sent him the tracking #
DETAILS....
my mom was home to accept the package on wed. 1030am (her friend took a video of the package opening because this was really our first time) opening the box she 1st noticed the most valuable snake not in a bag (probably escaped the bag but the next thing she noticed was a rat bite on one of their necks/ heads, the snakes were a bit cold *mentioned in the video)
she imediately put the snakes in their quaranten bins i had set up the night befoer) to get heat on them..
*she then called him at about 11am, told him she received the package and asked him about the mark on the snakes neck/head. he said "i feed all my snakes live rats and sometimes a snake will get bit"" he said " it's really not a big deal." "when a snake gets bitten he takes a cotton swab with rubbing alcohol, and it disenfects it" "he will be fine"
as soon as i got home at 345, my mom explained how things went. i imediately inspected the snakes, i noticed the smallest BELs bottom jaw was swolen and it had what looked like 2 punture marks on his lower jaw.......
at 353pm i texted him pics of the snakes jaw and asked him to call me....
we then went to ship our 2 healthy snakes....
i spoke to him later that evening about the BEL he said it really wasnt a big deal, that it would heal but because he guarentees the health of his snakes, he said that if it would make me feel better i could ship the BEL back to him and he will send me out another one (because he had another one). i asked him if he would pay for the shipping back to him and he said thats pushing it.
i told him i had to talk to my mom and i would get back to him.
he would not pay for us to ship the bell back.
waiting for confirmation that he recieved my 2 healthy snakes that were to arrive to him by 1030am on friday nov. 22
at 11:36am he texted me and asked me what the tracking # was. i texted him the #. but i was concerned that it seamed as he had not received them when he was supposed to at 10;30am i imediately tracked the package and it said delivered at 9:57 am
i called him and he said he had realized that his sister had recieved the package on time and she had the box inside but he wasnt home..
i messaged him to let me know when he gets to the package and checks out my snakes. again at 2:18 pm i asked him if he had gotten home yet?
he responded he said "yes i have, they were cold but are now in the racks."
(i wanted to say well no s#@t they were kept in their shipping box in the house unopened from 10am till at least 2pm. uhhgg)
later that night he said all here and safe, beutiful animals
* some texting back and forth*
after talking to a ball python breeder i know about all of this, we took several more photos of both the male albino and the bells rat bites, the swelling and punture wounds and what a spot with what looked like the start of bruising on the top of their heads.
* at 10:41pm that night we sent him 9 very clear pix and expressed our concerns about the punture marks, swelling,and the posibility of infections from the rat bites and asked him how he thinks we should handle this?
**we didnt recieve a responce until 9:24pm the next night.
the responce he sent was "they are healthy animals, it will heal"
we were justifiably irratated and dissapointed with everything that has transpired with this whole trade.
at 10:41pm we sent him a message saying "they are punture wounds!! the white one has swelling under her jaw, and the albino has redness isnt that signs of infection. possibly needing vet care?" included 3 pictures also
now waiting..........
i know there are many breeders that feed f/t (which we do) and there are some that feed live. i know that when snakes eat live they can be bitten (this is why i feed f/t. but i wouldnt think its normal for breeders to send out snakes that had been recently bitten by rats.
please help me with this....
this was my first trade and i would like some opinions about the injuries and what we should do
thank you for reading this (i know it was long)
andrew
* my first trade and first shipping experience*
ok this was the deal,.................
on wed nov. 20th he was going to send 5 ball pythons to me, they were scedualed to arrive on thu nov. 21 2013 at 10:30am. (he told me make sure someone is there to receive the snakes) because i would be in school my mom was going to accept package.
then that afternoon (thursday nov 21 2013)we were to ship out 2 ball pythons to him. which we did. following his instructions with his arrival time and packaging. we dropped off the package that evening to our local fed ex hub sent him the tracking #
DETAILS....
my mom was home to accept the package on wed. 1030am (her friend took a video of the package opening because this was really our first time) opening the box she 1st noticed the most valuable snake not in a bag (probably escaped the bag but the next thing she noticed was a rat bite on one of their necks/ heads, the snakes were a bit cold *mentioned in the video)
she imediately put the snakes in their quaranten bins i had set up the night befoer) to get heat on them..
*she then called him at about 11am, told him she received the package and asked him about the mark on the snakes neck/head. he said "i feed all my snakes live rats and sometimes a snake will get bit"" he said " it's really not a big deal." "when a snake gets bitten he takes a cotton swab with rubbing alcohol, and it disenfects it" "he will be fine"
as soon as i got home at 345, my mom explained how things went. i imediately inspected the snakes, i noticed the smallest BELs bottom jaw was swolen and it had what looked like 2 punture marks on his lower jaw.......
at 353pm i texted him pics of the snakes jaw and asked him to call me....
we then went to ship our 2 healthy snakes....
i spoke to him later that evening about the BEL he said it really wasnt a big deal, that it would heal but because he guarentees the health of his snakes, he said that if it would make me feel better i could ship the BEL back to him and he will send me out another one (because he had another one). i asked him if he would pay for the shipping back to him and he said thats pushing it.
i told him i had to talk to my mom and i would get back to him.
he would not pay for us to ship the bell back.
waiting for confirmation that he recieved my 2 healthy snakes that were to arrive to him by 1030am on friday nov. 22
at 11:36am he texted me and asked me what the tracking # was. i texted him the #. but i was concerned that it seamed as he had not received them when he was supposed to at 10;30am i imediately tracked the package and it said delivered at 9:57 am
i called him and he said he had realized that his sister had recieved the package on time and she had the box inside but he wasnt home..
i messaged him to let me know when he gets to the package and checks out my snakes. again at 2:18 pm i asked him if he had gotten home yet?
he responded he said "yes i have, they were cold but are now in the racks."
(i wanted to say well no s#@t they were kept in their shipping box in the house unopened from 10am till at least 2pm. uhhgg)
later that night he said all here and safe, beutiful animals
* some texting back and forth*
after talking to a ball python breeder i know about all of this, we took several more photos of both the male albino and the bells rat bites, the swelling and punture wounds and what a spot with what looked like the start of bruising on the top of their heads.
* at 10:41pm that night we sent him 9 very clear pix and expressed our concerns about the punture marks, swelling,and the posibility of infections from the rat bites and asked him how he thinks we should handle this?
**we didnt recieve a responce until 9:24pm the next night.
the responce he sent was "they are healthy animals, it will heal"
we were justifiably irratated and dissapointed with everything that has transpired with this whole trade.
at 10:41pm we sent him a message saying "they are punture wounds!! the white one has swelling under her jaw, and the albino has redness isnt that signs of infection. possibly needing vet care?" included 3 pictures also
now waiting..........
i know there are many breeders that feed f/t (which we do) and there are some that feed live. i know that when snakes eat live they can be bitten (this is why i feed f/t. but i wouldnt think its normal for breeders to send out snakes that had been recently bitten by rats.
please help me with this....
this was my first trade and i would like some opinions about the injuries and what we should do
thank you for reading this (i know it was long)
andrew
we are not happy.... 
