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[wyldwurm]

Why would you even believe them when they don't have any knowledge of the custom script

Don't be so sure of yourself Skippy

 

[Lucille]

Sorry but you must have missed the Ballbids Live Arrival Guarantee clearly indicated in the Terms and Conditions. That guarantee has always been there.

Really?

 

[lonewolfrider]

And you can just continue to ignore my responses to you on this that I will re-quote below, showing that no, you are in fact WRONG. That is not the way it works and if you honestly believed it was then you would post actual, legitimate proof of that fact.

I am not a computer person at all. But are you telling me here in this public forum that you are a computer person and there is absolutely no possible way that I have viewed server records that show specific IP address pinging so quickly together and continuous that it is simply is not humanly possible and that those situations will not eat up the memory therefore the site will not freeze?

 

[Snake-Queen]

If there is a defect in the product received, or a live reptile is not as described, the winner must make such claim immediately and at the time of delivery. Supportive photographic, video, or any other supporting evidence that BallBids may request is required to be supplied to BallBids immediately.

Where in this statement does it say live arrival guaranty? There is nothing that states what will be done if the bp does not arrive alive.

 

[lonewolfrider]

Really?

I have no idea what that is. I do know that out of about 30 snakes shipped so far there has been no problems and I do know the Ballbids has a supplier agreement that covers that issue and a T&C that covers that issue as well as another policy that supersedes the breeder warranty if there were ever a problem. Just go read it. I don't think that a company could ever have a better guarantee than Ballbids. Sorry to necro your run here

 

[Rud3Bwoy]

Mark, I do not just claim to know what I'm talking about computer-wise online, it's what I do for a living and make a d@#$ good living doing it at that. And I am one of the ones that spoke up to state that the claims made by you, and your "programmer" are flat out lies.

Everyone has asked for proof that these timer "failures and glitches" are being caused directly by an attack on your website by these mysterious foes of yours and no one, at any point, has actually provided a shred of evidence showing this to be the case.

Do you know why that is Mark? Because it's not possible. Even if you were to go in and post all of the traffic and data logs from the exact time of the auction it would show absolutely no evidence of any sort of attack causing this issue. Again, why Mark? Because it's not possible.

So I will again state for the dozenth time, NO TYPE OF ATTACK ON YOUR SERVER OR WEBSITE WOULD CAUSE THE TIMER ISSUES YOU ARE CLAIMING!

Is that clear enough for you Mark? Now put up or shut up, and don't you dare just post a rebuttal with another link to the outside source that you created and keep citing as "proof" when it is nothing of the sort.

as she stated and being a pc tech my self if you was being attacked you could easily pull up a monitor showing your high traffic income which is causing these attacks at those times.

why not have the auctions on facebook?i am sure it's not that easy to attack there servers as you claim

 

[lonewolfrider]

Where in this statement does it say live arrival guaranty? There is nothing that states what will be done if the bp does not arrive alive.

Unlike you guys I have not time to sit around and dissect Ballbids policys or Fauna's for that matter.

 

[Fangthane]

I can easily look up names and try to correlate them to you too Im sure.

OK. Let's see it. Dig up someone from my location, with my username in their email address, that isn't actually me. I suppose that, since manufacturing "facts" is something you foolishly believe that you're good at, I should add the caveat that whatever you "find" has to be able to be verifiably dated before today. When you fail to find it, you'll have shown just how infinitesimally small the likelihood is that the "Marty" thing is coincidence.

 

[Lucille]

I have no idea what that is. I do know that out of about 30 snakes shipped so far there has been no problems and I do know the Ballbids has a supplier agreement that covers that issue and a T&C that covers that issue as well as another policy that supersedes the breeder warranty if there were ever a problem. Just go read it. I don't think that a company could ever have a better guarantee than Ballbids. Sorry to necro your run here

So you are saying Avi was lying? It's good to see you are being so honest about the mis-speakings of your own, great step up!!! Maybe that means you are ready to admit to and work on the many other deficiencies many have pointed out.

 

[aleria]

I am not a computer person at all. But are you telling me here in this public forum that you are a computer person and there is absolutely no possible way that I have viewed server records that show specific IP address pinging so quickly together and continuous that it is simply is not humanly possible and that those situations will not eat up the memory therefore the site will not freeze?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It would not result in what you are saying it is if it were an attack in the way you are describing. What it would do is take the whole site down and people would instead be receiving some sort of "page cannot be displayed" or "connection time out" type error instead. It would not just individually "freeze" one small part of the page/code(the timer), and leave the site still functioning well enough for plenty of people to witness this magical timer freeze that the site keeps experiencing on low bidded auctions.

And these server records you are referring to as "proof" of there being an attack is exactly what everyone has been asking you to post, to prove that it is even happening in the manner and at the times that you are claiming.

Heck, the way an auction site works is for people to continually refresh/reconnect to the page to view the latest amount/time left and place their rapid-fire bids, even more so if they've got it set up with an auto-bid, meaning you should be seeing a lot of entries of the same ip addresses hitting repeatedly seconds apart. I have viewed this exact thing when viewing logs from the servers at my place of employment on servers that require a lot of refreshing for the latest data(which is what an auction site requires).

 

[lonewolfrider]

OK. Let's see it. Dig up someone from my location, with my username in their email address, that isn't actually me. I suppose that, since manufacturing "facts" is something you foolishly believe that you're good at, I should add the caveat that whatever you "find" has to be able to be verifiably dated before today. When you fail to find it, you'll have shown just how infinitesimally small the likelihood is that the "Marty" thing is coincidence.

You want to say and do what you want. You want to knowingly be a liar so be it. I tried to be nice and I tried to answer some questions but it is clear that nobody here really wants any truthful answers. You just want to continue this forum junkie stuff and make things up. If anyone were to read this it would be clear.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Unlike you guys I have not time to sit around and dissect Ballbids policys or Fauna's for that matter.

Common deflection when you don't have an answer. My quote was taken directly from ballbids.com.

If there is a defect in the product received, or a live reptile is not as described, the winner must make such claim immediately and at the time of delivery. Supportive photographic, video, or any other supporting evidence that BallBids may request is required to be supplied to BallBids immediately.

You stated earlier for us to read your terms and conditions, I did and found it lacking on what you implied was there. There is no guarantee. So if a winner had an issue with a bp they are SOL.

 

[lonewolfrider]

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It would not result in what you are saying it is if it were an attack in the way you are describing. What it would do is take the whole site down and people would instead be receiving some sort of "page cannot be displayed" or "connection time out" type error instead. It would not just individually "freeze" one small part of the page/code(the timer), and leave the site still functioning well enough for plenty of people to witness this magical timer freeze that the site keeps experiencing on low bidded auctions.

And these server records you are referring to as "proof" of there being an attack is exactly what everyone has been asking you to post, to prove that it is even happening in the manner and at the times that you are claiming.

Heck, the way an auction site works is for people to continually refresh/reconnect to the page to view the latest amount/time left and place their rapid-fire bids, even more so if they've got it set up with an auto-bid, meaning you should be seeing a lot of entries of the same ip addresses hitting repeatedly seconds apart. I have viewed this exact thing when viewing logs from the servers at my place of employment on servers that require a lot of refreshing for the latest data(which is what an auction site requires).

Please read what I said. It does not freeze a small part of the page, it freezes the entire page. And as dumb as I am about these things I know that the page does not have to be taken completely down with a error code displayed for that to happen. Im done talking with you. You are nowhere near as smart as you portray yourself. I am terrible at this stuff and I know at least that much. Mike Reed This is why I don't listen to all these experts on the internet. Best example ever right here

 

[lonewolfrider]

Common deflection when you don't have an answer. My quote was taken directly from ballbids.com.



You stated earlier for us to read your terms and conditions, I did and found it lacking on what you implied was there. There is no guarantee. So if a winner had an issue with a bp they are SOL.

I could cut and past small parts of a document and leave a lot out too...please...

 

[Fangthane]

You want to say and do what you want. You want to knowingly be a liar so be it. I tried to be nice and I tried to answer some questions but it is clear that nobody here really wants any truthful answers. You just want to continue this forum junkie stuff and make things up. If anyone were to read this it would be clear.

Aww. Is your poor, injured widdle pinky suddenly aching too much to surf the web? Don't make a bluff that you're not willing to back. Verbally pissing your pants has been one of your biggest "tells" so far. You and your associates really should work on that. One of serveral things that's abundantly clear, to all who read this thread is this:

<--- accurate depictions of your posts, and BallBS in general.

 

[aleria]

It's very obvious that reading comprehension is something severely lacking with everyone that has any hand in this "company"; along with tact, civility, and anger control.

Resorting to calling me an idiot because you can't comprehend what I explained is just sad. And it seems you are constantly telling everyone to "go back and read what I said" because you don't seem to think we understand you, when we do, perfectly. We just all have the same opinion that you are full of it.

 

[lonewolfrider]

I have spoke to you before and you are one who hates Ballbids but I will try once again and give you the benefit of the doubt. It is apparent that your question goes directly to the money issue.

Ballbids extensive marketing reaches more external areas than ever has been done. Plus it reaches within the industry.
Only one person will win the auction but the advertisement and auction generates an extensive amount of interest.
The overflow of interest should in itself generate more movement and browsing and shopping and hopefully buying within the existing businesses that advertise.
The breeders sells their snake to Ballbids for a fair market value
The customers enjoy the competition in bidding
Any breeder that breeds quality can sell to ballbids on a rotating purchase basis
Hopefully, all of the expenses to run this type of operation will cover and show a profit
Now if a breeder does not want to sell to Ballbids he will still benefit by the increase of interest sparked or re sparked by the advertisements.
And just like Quibids, Sony or Panasonic is not hurt by the ridiculously low sale. In this case, the morph breeder is not hurt by any loss of value of their product at all. Unlike some of these other auctions that over a period of time, low sales will reduce the value. It has already been seen.
Ballbids is not a replacement for anything here. it is just another avenue that can help move some snakes and increase awareness of the industry. If the awareness is increased all other areas of the industry will increase. Private sales, dry goods and so on.
Personally, I think it is a great idea that will in the long run help out everyone that breeds and sells.

Rich I have answered you questions here.

 

[Lucille]

Wow. Anyone watch the female bumble bee auction that just ended tonight? There was a good bidding war for the last few minutes (you know...when it keeps refreshing to 15 seconds every time someone bids) and then...what do you know...it freezes AGAIN and no one else can bid. So the person who has the auto bid thing setup ends up winning. Such crap. This is the most bogus criminal system I have ever seen.

Mark mostly appears when Ballbids has had a negative issue where people will visit Fauna to see what's really up, and posts describing the issue are buried by him in several pages of arguing so people can't go directly to the discussion of the issue. I believe that this was the post that got him to visit with us this time.

 

[aleria]

Originally Posted by leftycrane
Wow. Anyone watch the female bumble bee auction that just ended tonight? There was a good bidding war for the last few minutes (you know...when it keeps refreshing to 15 seconds every time someone bids) and then...what do you know...it freezes AGAIN and no one else can bid. So the person who has the auto bid thing setup ends up winning. Such crap. This is the most bogus criminal system I have ever seen.

Mark mostly appears when Ballbids has had a negative issue where people will visit Fauna to see what's really up, and posts describing the issue are buried by him in several pages of arguing so people can't go directly to the discussion of the issue. I believe that this was the post that got him to visit with us this time.Mark mostly appears when Ballbids has had a negative issue where people will visit Fauna to see what's really up, and posts describing the issue are buried by him in several pages of arguing so people can't go directly to the discussion of the issue. I believe that this was the post that got him to visit with us this time.

And it's that description of how the site acted, and how things went down, that should be enough to show anyone that it was not the result of an attack on their website. A few people have also already stated that this exact same thing happened and was likely caused by either 1. Their servers/code/entire site being so terrible that it couldn't handle the influx of traffic for the auction. or 2. That it was purposely pulled so they could re-list and hopefully get a better price than what it was going to go for.

According to them, many other auctions have gone through just fine. So why would it only be a certain few(mainly high dollar snakes going for not nearly the profit margin they had pulled on other auctions) that this happened to?

Their explanation, and lack of willingness to provide proof of anything they claim to anyone, including their actual customers that have put money toward their site, should be more than enough to sway anyone from participating in the funding of a business that doesn't seem to want any sort of transparency.

And yes, actual customers have asked questions, and the second they did they were called liars and/or haters and banned.

 

[wyldwurm]

And it's that description of how the site acted, and how things went down, that should be enough to show anyone that it was not the result of an attack on their website. A few people have also already stated that this exact same thing happened and was likely caused by either 1. Their servers/code/entire site being so terrible that it couldn't handle the influx of traffic for the auction. or 2. That it was purposely pulled so they could re-list and hopefully get a better price than what it was going to go for.

According to them, many other auctions have gone through just fine. So why would it only be a certain few(mainly high dollar snakes going for not nearly the profit margin they had pulled on other auctions) that this happened to?

Their explanation, and lack of willingness to provide proof of anything they claim to anyone, including their actual customers that have put money toward their site, should be more than enough to sway anyone from participating in the funding of a business that doesn't seem to want any sort of transparency.

And yes, actual customers have asked questions, and the second they did they were called liars and/or haters and banned.

According to Marty, (and directly quoted) "The server. The server is more than capable of handling the script processing. Its a linux CentOS 6 distribution. The machine has 2 Intel I7 processors with quad cores giving a total of 8 virtual processors with 16GB ram, 2 300TB hard drives, and a total of T1, direct to Internet connection. This is overkill where the site is concerned. The ONLY thing that would cause the site to freeze would be LACK of memory. The total memory load for any auction is around 1.5 to 4% of availiable memory, EVER."

Which leaves the second possibility...manually stopping the timer when the bids are not high enough