Inquiry BallBids.com?

[AbsoluteApril]

I have no idea what that is.

it's from post #60 in this thread - a conversation user had with Arvi asking for clarification on the return policy.

Originally it was "Should BallBids.com not be able to deliver the item ordered, BallBids.com shall promptly notify the winner if it can deliver a comparable substitute product that has the same or better features. The winner shall then promptly notify BallBids.com if it wishes to receive this substitute or if it prefers to receive a refund of the final auction end price. " The above quote is from Item 8 on their site, regarding delivery. per posts 62 & 63 in this thread.

 

[AbsoluteApril]

oops Arvi = Avi

 

[RichsBallPythons]

According to Marty, (and directly quoted) "The server. The server is more than capable of handling the script processing. Its a linux CentOS 6 distribution. The machine has 2 Intel I7 processors with quad cores giving a total of 8 virtual processors with 16GB ram, 2 300TB hard drives, and a total of T1, direct to Internet connection. This is overkill where the site is concerned. The ONLY thing that would cause the site to freeze would be LACK of memory. The total memory load for any auction is around 1.5 to 4% of availiable memory, EVER."

Which leaves the second possibility...manually stopping the timer when the bids are not high enough

Well if that was his So called Server setup, then the server of that magnitude would NOT freeze. I run a similar setup but i7 980x 6x single CPU. I run gaming servers off it 2-3 at a time and the servers never ping over 100ms. When Running servers, you run into HEAT which slows down performance which is why my setup is Water Cooled.

I for one would love to see a picture of their actual setup.

 

[lonewolfrider]

it's from post #60 in this thread - a conversation user had with Arvi asking for clarification on the return policy.

Originally it was "Should BallBids.com not be able to deliver the item ordered, BallBids.com shall promptly notify the winner if it can deliver a comparable substitute product that has the same or better features. The winner shall then promptly notify BallBids.com if it wishes to receive this substitute or if it prefers to receive a refund of the final auction end price. " The above quote is from Item 8 on their site, regarding delivery. per posts 62 & 63 in this thread.

That was from along time ago and they were revising their Terms trying to get the right wording between dry goods and live animals. They actually came here to try to establish a rapport and get some advice but you can read that this thread was not only not receptive, the thread was quite nasty. Ballbids is a legal company and has always had the intentions of doing good quality business and helping breeders move some more snakes at the same time expanding the industry. That would be a good thing for everyone.
And to Lucille, I didn;t come here for that post you showed. I never saw it. I cam out because you started threatening to contact the DBPR relating to my Real Estate Brokers License. I gave you the direct links to their complaint department.

 

[wyldwurm]

Well if that was his So called Server setup, then the server of that magnitude would NOT freeze.

Exactly! Which means they stop it manually...

 

[Lucille]

everyone.
And to Lucille, I didn;t come here for that post you showed. I never saw it.

Did you see this one?

Mark does not appear as an owner on either Ballbids LLC. In fact, he isn't even listed as an owner at his own place of employment. Exactly what credentials does he have to come on here and pose as a Ballbids spokesperson?


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ann-Marie-and-Mark-Byers-InterAction-Realty/476134042415720



http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex...omp_name=INTERACTIONREALTY&names_filing_type=

 

[AbsoluteApril]

That was from along time ago and they were revising their Terms trying to get the right wording between dry goods and live animals..

Oh yes, I am well aware the terms were revised, I was posting that info because you asked where it came from. You had asked a question, I found you an answer with proof. See how that works

 

[lonewolfrider]

Rich, this is the answer to your question.

Ballbids extensive marketing reaches more external areas than ever has been done. Plus it reaches within the industry.
Only one person will win the auction but the advertisement and auction generates an extensive amount of interest.
The overflow of interest should in itself generate more movement and browsing and shopping and hopefully buying within the existing businesses that advertise.
The breeders sells their snake to Ballbids for a fair market value
The customers enjoy the competition in bidding
Any breeder that breeds quality can sell to ballbids on a rotating purchase basis
Hopefully, all of the expenses to run this type of operation will cover and show a profit
Now if a breeder does not want to sell to Ballbids he will still benefit by the increase of interest sparked or re sparked by the advertisements.
And just like Quibids, Sony or Panasonic is not hurt by the ridiculously low sale. In this case, the morph breeder is not hurt by any loss of value of their product at all. Unlike some of these other auctions that over a period of time, low sales will reduce the value. It has already been seen.
Ballbids is not a replacement for anything here. it is just another avenue that can help move some snakes and increase awareness of the industry. If the awareness is increased all other areas of the industry will increase. Private sales, dry goods and so on.
Personally, I think it is a great idea that will in the long run help out everyone that breeds and sells.

 

[Snake-Queen]

I could cut and past small parts of a document and leave a lot out too...please...

Mark, all that was left out ofmy previous quote was the crape about videoing the box opening & getting 10 free bids when the video is uploaded to ballbs' youtube page.

9. Product Defect and Live Reptiles:

If there is a defect in the product received, or a live reptile is not as described, the winner must make such claim immediately and at the time of delivery. Supportive photographic, video, or any other supporting evidence that BallBids may request is required to be supplied to BallBids immediately. BallBids offers its customers 10 free bids for every Live Delivery unpacking video taken at the time of first delivery and uploaded to our server, so it is highly recommended that in all cases, an unpacking video documenting the delivery, date, and time be recorded. A Live Reptile Delivery is of paramount importance that you obtain the animal at the time of first delivery for the safety of the reptile!

The bolded words are from my original quote, I have supplied the rest.

So I ask AGAIN where does it say LIVE ARRIVAL GUARANTEE?

You cannot show me where, because it doesn't say.

So yet again, I will state; if the customer has an issue they are SOL. One day this will bite y'all in the rear. Shipping problems can and do happen.

I have been very polite in asking where is your live arrival guarantee and you have been insulting towards me when I point out that there isn't one.

Live Arrival Guarantee:

We do offer a live arrival guarantee! We do offer a correct sex and health guarantee as well! We do require that the purchaser is available and does sign for their package. We cannot guarantee, if there are issues with the shipping carrier, or failure to sign for a package. In the event that we would need to replace an animal, we will either offer a similar replacement or credit toward another purchase. If there are any problems, we need to be notified immediately (Within 2 hours of signing for shipment). We do guarantee that the animal that we ship out is healthy and has been routinely feeding in our care, however due to the change of environment and routine change while not in our care, we cannot offer any extended health guarantee.

The above quote was taken from http://www.GHOSTMORPH.com/contact.html
do you see the difference?

 

[lonewolfrider]

Mark, all that was left out ofmy previous quote was the crape about videoing the box opening & getting 10 free bids when the video is uploaded to ballbs' youtube page.



The bolded words are from my original quote, I have supplied the rest.

So I ask AGAIN where does it say LIVE ARRIVAL GUARANTEE?

You cannot show me where, because it doesn't say.

So yet again, I will state; if the customer has an issue they are SOL. One day this will bite y'all in the rear. Shipping problems can and do happen.

I have been very polite in asking where is your live arrival guarantee and you have been insulting towards me when I point out that there isn't one.



The above quote was taken from http://www.GHOSTMORPH.com/contact.html
do you see the difference?

15) GUARANTEES:

THE PROVISIONS LISTED IN THIS SECTION, SECTION 15, SUPERCEDE ALL OTHER TERMS THAT WOULD NORMALLY CAUSE CONFLICT OR CONFUSION. WE GUARANTEE THAT ALL LIVE ANIMALS YOU RECEIVE WILL ARIVE ALIVE, HEALTHY, AND AS DESCRIBED. THIS INCLUDES THE GENETIC COMPOSITION THAT WAS ADVERTISED ON THE AUCTION LISTING.

You did not read all the terms and conditions, This is a cut and paste of number 15 on Ballbids.com T&C Page.

 

[leftycrane]

Mark mostly appears when Ballbids has had a negative issue where people will visit Fauna to see what's really up, and posts describing the issue are buried by him in several pages of arguing so people can't go directly to the discussion of the issue. I believe that this was the post that got him to visit with us this time.

Oops. My bad for bringing him brand his nasty lies back into this mess. Lol

 

[Snake-Queen]

15) GUARANTEES:

THE PROVISIONS LISTED IN THIS SECTION, SECTION 15, SUPERCEDE ALL OTHER TERMS THAT WOULD NORMALLY CAUSE CONFLICT OR CONFUSION. WE GUARANTEE THAT ALL LIVE ANIMALS YOU RECEIVE WILL ARIVE ALIVE, HEALTHY, AND AS DESCRIBED. THIS INCLUDES THE GENETIC COMPOSITION THAT WAS ADVERTISED ON THE AUCTION LISTING.

You did not read all the terms and conditions, This is a cut and paste of number 15 on Ballbids.com T&C Page.

Dint read as it appeared to be more crape in all capital letters. Too darn hard to read when something is written exclusively in capital letters. Also, that would have served better under section 9.

 

[Snake-Queen]

Also does not inform the reader what compensation is available if the item is not received in the manner described.

 

[leftycrane]

Oops. My bad for bringing him brand his nasty lies back into this mess. Lol

Brand should say and...stupid auto correct.

 

[WebSlave]

I have spoke to you before and you are one who hates Ballbids but I will try once again and give you the benefit of the doubt. It is apparent that your question goes directly to the money issue.

Ballbids extensive marketing reaches more external areas than ever has been done. Plus it reaches within the industry.
Only one person will win the auction but the advertisement and auction generates an extensive amount of interest.
The overflow of interest should in itself generate more movement and browsing and shopping and hopefully buying within the existing businesses that advertise.
The breeders sells their snake to Ballbids for a fair market value
The customers enjoy the competition in bidding
Any breeder that breeds quality can sell to ballbids on a rotating purchase basis
Hopefully, all of the expenses to run this type of operation will cover and show a profit
Now if a breeder does not want to sell to Ballbids he will still benefit by the increase of interest sparked or re sparked by the advertisements.
And just like Quibids, Sony or Panasonic is not hurt by the ridiculously low sale. In this case, the morph breeder is not hurt by any loss of value of their product at all. Unlike some of these other auctions that over a period of time, low sales will reduce the value. It has already been seen.
Ballbids is not a replacement for anything here. it is just another avenue that can help move some snakes and increase awareness of the industry. If the awareness is increased all other areas of the industry will increase. Private sales, dry goods and so on.
Personally, I think it is a great idea that will in the long run help out everyone that breeds and sells.

So you are saying I hate BallBids? How did you come to that conclusion? I really don't at all, so I really don't know how you came to that conclusion. The only reason I am involved in this conversation at all is because I find statements that you make on my site to be of interest to me, and I would like clarification and elaboration concerning those statements, please.

For instance, the above comments in the quote from you above stating that BallBids will bring more people with attendant interest into this business catches my eye. That "Ballbids extensive marketing reaches more external areas than ever has been done." So tell me, what "external areas" are you referring to? Where is this "extensive marketing" taking place that will bring in people who would otherwise be clueless about doing a Google search for something like "ball pythons for sale" and display for them pages upon pages of places to find those animals being offered to them?

Is BallBids reaching outside of the internet for these new people? Is BallBids specifically targeting people who are unable to figure out how to do a keyword search in Google? What is this target audience, and how is BallBids reaching it in such a manner as you are claiming? Where is this target marketplace where people exist who might want a ball python real cheap, and yet do not have access to the internet to already locate them via the breeders themselves? I'm sorry, try as I might I just cannot figure that one out.

Otherwise, unless BallBids is advertising in areas that are completely foreign and unfathonable to me, and isolated from the same avenues most ball python breeders are currently utilizing, I am having trouble understanding how you can say that BallBids is targeting individuals who would not be likely already considering buying from breeders direct, and finding the super low prices on BallBids for the same items to be an enticement to NOT buy from the breeders in the hopes of winning those auctions and pay pennies on the dollar for such animals. So how exactly are you targeting a market that does not already have access to the internet to access those breeders direct, yet can use the internet in order to participate within BallBids?

See what I mean? I am confused. These questions aren't based on any hatred of BallBids at all. Quite the contrary, actually. I really don't care about the penny auction business model at all, much less BallBids specifically. It's the statements YOU are making that have caught my interest here in this discussion.

But, back to my opening paragraph here, if you feel you have some sort of PROOF that I hate BallBids, then by all means share this evidence with us all.

 

[ballpython584]

I have a few questions for Mark.

You say that BallBids buys the snake directly from the breeder. Does BallBids pay the breeder for said snake? If so when...before the auction or after?

 

[Shaun33]

I know I am late for this but it has been said over and over by Ballbids customer on BB fb page that the TIMER froze. Nobody can just mess with the timers but programmer from my understanding. Especially mere seconds from the auction ending which coincides with low bids. And as the owner of Say No, Will was never a supporter and his actions were dealt with by being banned. I don't condone illegal activities and it won't be accepted on Say No. So you can say he was a supporter all you want. It doesn't make it true.

Twisted? You have the evidence written on your forehead and you refuse to see because of your hatred. You don't want the facts because you don't want Ballbids doing business. You can not have a normal conversation without lying or misrepresenting and you say I skew the facts. You are a liar. You have the guy admitting to hacking the server right on your page. The freeze is the entire site not just the timer when that happens. And that is exactly what has been happening when the attacks have occurred. All customers use pay pal so you you know that information is always safe yet you AGAIN try to misrepresent negatively. Go get a life...I honestly feel sad for you and your few friends.

 

[Shaun33]

I wasn't corrected or busted on another forum. It was Marty saying it wasn't him, he called me a few names and that was it.

Are you really serious? That is what say no tried to do months ago and got busted in another forum. Then again they put it back out in this forum a short time ago. They know that is not him. That is two different people completely. I can easily look up names and try to correlate them to you too Im sure. I think we have seen an example of that recently specifically to your post. Is this the adult discussion I am here for or just more smoke and BS that means nothing

 

[Shaun33]

You know what I see from all this. They can't answer any questions truthfully and change the subject so they can claim they haven't lied. But that just me.

 

[Snake-Queen]

You know what I see from all this. They can't answer any questions truthfully and change the subject so they can claim they haven't lied. But that just me.

You aren't the only one that see this.