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Bad Guy BaseballBeardies AkA Mac Watkins

BaseballBeardies said:
Hey I am here. Please ask questions? Other people in my ads have been telling me to do something about this. I dont know what to do?
By no means was I trying to scam anyone. I was going to send the video to Diamond Den to see what they thought. I had no Idea any of this bad stuff was going on with her because it has never happened with me before. I would have had to sent the dragon back to Baltimore Beardies anyways if I was going to get the refund? Baltimore Beardies helped me out with her care. Currently the female has gained size and is about 8 1/2". I am feeding her around 12 crickets a day. 6 in the morning and 6 at night. Along with veggies. She has calcium put on everything now.
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Let me address these statements because its horse crap and offensive.

You received her 12/07

You posted a g.g. thread about me 10 days afterwards. So I am sure that those first 10 days. She was fine. Why else post a g.g. thread?:shrug01:

THIRTY-FIVE days later. ( I am pretty sure I have the second longest health guarantee for B. dragons.30 days. Not a pedistool just a soon to be made point) you contacted me with your first problem.Com'on 35 days from arrival! Stating that she must have had shipping trama because something is wrong with the way she is acting.:icon_bs:

You made three different suggestions emplying "what will I get if she is damaged". (hello mac, RED FLAG) That's a hell of a thing for you to say to me when you have a dragon that is in severe need of TLC. That YOU did not provided.

You were trying to trade her to three other breeders, when you though you had a trade. You told me you would keep her. Then when Corky backed out, You contacted me back wanting me to do something for you , again. YOU KNEW SHE WAS MESSED UP WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO TRADE HER. DONT DODGE THAT STATEMENT. DONT CHANGE IT AND DONT LIE ABOUT IT!!! We have dates on your e-mails.

I mean look at that video. either the dragon is under fed and so dehydrated that its staggering back and forth. OR you dropped her, now you want to pull a fast swap.

What would of happened if you did NOT try and trade a sick dragon to another breeder while trying to get something out of me?
I would of unhapply replaced that dragon with another female double het leather. OUTSIDE of my guarantee. Then not sell crap to you again. But since you were trying to be shady, I stuck to my guarantee. 30 days. An offered my assistance. An your lucky to get that! I do NOT like people like you Mac. Or the things people like you try to pull. An its a shame. This was and has not been my opinion of you. BUT it is NOW!

TOM
 
I offered the female to Mythical Dragonz, Diamond Den and Breeders circle. I honestly didn't know that she was messed up. I posted the good guy thread for you because I thought you would want it. Notice how I never said anything on how nice, and colorful the female is it was just a good transaction.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217050
Also Tom I told you that I knew I was late on telling you. I respect the fact that you stick to your 30 days. Thats why I asked what I was going to get, I thought you would take value off because I was late. Also I said that I was going to ask Diamond Den for there opinion before we actually traded. Thats when I came back to you. I made the video for that reason, not for you. Also I have to ask, how much do you pull your dragons from their cage and let them run around on the floor? How much do you look at them to check?

How is Kristi even in this that is for a completly different animal. Also how is Jonathan in it, I never even did anything on the lines of ripping him off?
 
<----Hands Mac a bigger shovel.

I bought a Red Female Hypo Trans Leather from him. I am yet another happy customer of him. He has really nice dragons and isnt one to jip you out of your money. He actually sells the real deal. I recommend him to anyone.
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Notice how I never said anything on how nice, and colorful the female is it was just a good transaction.
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Now you are implying that you are unhappy with the dragon? Answer me this, Mac: How can you be called BaseballBEARDIES and have been here for so long yet not know how to feed/care for a dragon?
 
I have been following this thread from day one... ive watched the video and one thing that stands out the most is the lack of care mac gives to his bearded dragon (a quited expensive dragon at that)... 12 crickets a day? c'mon thats it, that is nowhere near enough food for a growing dragon... if you dont know how to care for the dragon, then you shouldnt have them....and then you definitely dont try and trade a sick dragon (to 4 other breeders at that)...heck, id pay shipping to rescue that dragon....my .02.


craig morel
 
laterob said:
<----Hands Mac a bigger shovel.







Now you are implying that you are unhappy with the dragon? Answer me this, Mac: How can you be called BaseballBEARDIES and have been here for so long yet not know how to feed/care for a dragon?
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:yesnod: i was wondering the same thing.
 
BaseballBeardies said:
I offered the female to Mythical Dragonz, Diamond Den and Breeders circle. I honestly didn't know that she was messed up. I posted the good guy thread for you because I thought you would want it. Notice how I never said anything on how nice, and colorful the female is it was just a good transaction.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217050
Also Tom I told you that I knew I was late on telling you. I respect the fact that you stick to your 30 days. Thats why I asked what I was going to get, I thought you would take value off because I was late. Also I said that I was going to ask Diamond Den for there opinion before we actually traded. Thats when I came back to you. I made the video for that reason, not for you. Also I have to ask, how much do you pull your dragons from their cage and let them run around on the floor? How much do you look at them to check?

How is Kristi even in this that is for a completly different animal. Also how is Jonathan in it, I never even did anything on the lines of ripping him off?
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Let me see if you can read this Mac because I dont think your understanding.

YOU WERE TRYING TO TRADE THIS ANIMAL TO CORKY AT THE SAME TIME YOU WERE TELLING ME THERE WAS A PROBLEM !

And who knows the time and dates you were trying to trade with jonathan and nicole?

Go back and read this thread from the beginning. Im glad you were convinced by your peers to come here and answer for your problem. But dont state that your here and ready to answer questions. Why dont you go back and answer the orignal post. Then when you say " i didnt know and when i did i stopped trying to trade it". When you say that, me and corky will post e-mails with time and dates. Then you can answer that question with another lie. And so on and so on.....

The dragons are housed in 3 ft 3 1/2 ft and 4 ft long cages. by 2, 2 1/2 ft wide by 1, 1 1/2 ft high cages. I see them run, eat, drink, swim, bask, and go to the bathroom. ALL day EVERY day. I clean there cages EVERYDAY. They ALL get a bath every two weeks. They get water threw a spray bottle, and greens the rest of the time. (when needed) That's my job. To provide the best care for my animals while they are in my care. So dont question what I do and dont do! My husbandry skills are under control. You need to be answering questions, not asking. Answer the question about how bad she looks? She didnt look like that when I posted her for sale!

I stuck to my guarantee, because of your unethical tatics.

I seen you ask diamond den about her care, AFTER he didnt want to do a trade with you.
 
BaseballBeardies said:
I offered the female to Mythical Dragonz, Diamond Den and Breeders circle. I honestly didn't know that she was messed up. I posted the good guy thread for you because I thought you would want it. Notice how I never said anything on how nice, and colorful the female is it was just a good transaction.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217050
Also Tom I told you that I knew I was late on telling you. I respect the fact that you stick to your 30 days. Thats why I asked what I was going to get, I thought you would take value off because I was late. Also I said that I was going to ask Diamond Den for there opinion before we actually traded. Thats when I came back to you. I made the video for that reason, not for you. Also I have to ask, how much do you pull your dragons from their cage and let them run around on the floor? How much do you look at them to check?

How is Kristi even in this that is for a completly different animal. Also how is Jonathan in it, I never even did anything on the lines of ripping him off?
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I posted on here being glad that I didn't do the trade. That dragon wasn't cared for properly, so I don't know that my leopard gecko would have been either. I also don't know if you snake was properly cared for. You were trying to do quite a few trades at the same time. If you had one sick animal, then they might all be sick.
 
Yes Diamond Den I came on her and said I wasn't trying to trade you a messed up dragon. I was trying to trade what I thought was somewhat a normal dragon.
Honestly thumbs up to you Tom, thats not me. I am not going to spend all my time 24/7 with my dragons for everyday of the year.
Rob I joined her awhile ago, that doesn't mean I know everything about bearded dragons. Craig about 12 crickets is what Tom told me to give her, if I am not mistaken. I am trying to get rid of them. Screw it if you want her and pay shipping I will give her to you. Does not make a difference to me.
 
BaseballBeardies said:
Yes Diamond Den I came on her and said I wasn't trying to trade you a messed up dragon. I was trying to trade what I thought was somewhat a normal dragon.
Honestly thumbs up to you Tom, thats not me. I am not going to spend all my time 24/7 with my dragons for everyday of the year.
Rob I joined her awhile ago, that doesn't mean I know everything about bearded dragons. Craig about 12 crickets is what Tom told me to give her, if I am not mistaken. I am trying to get rid of them. Screw it if you want her and pay shipping I will give her to you. Does not make a difference to me.
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Lights are on 11 hrs a day. Other things still get done thoughout the day when the lights are on. Its called multi tasking. Kinda like trying to pawn off a sick dragon to four people. But if you have to stop walking when your chewing gum, maybe you shouldnt chew gum anymore?

Thumbs up to me? For what? Taking care of my animals like every other decent person in the reptile community? If you dont have time for your animals maybe you should spend more time in a new hobby. You keep this crap up I asure you, you will need to find a new hobby.

I know proper amount of time and care for your animals is "not you". I can tell by watching the video that you took of that dragon. Thats pretty damn sad that little dragon staggers back and forth like that. Also how bad it has gotten in such a short time.

WOW kid i told you twelve crickets??? You didnt read one :censored: word did you!?!? below is a copy and paste of what i sent you. Whats your problem mac you want to kill this dragon?

If to much is eaten it will have seizures and than be paralyzed for a short period of time. Sometimes this causes death.) about a hlaf of dozen or a few more than that should be good. Than a few hrs before the lights go out, give him/her another round. Remember make sure the dragon has plenty of light time left to make sure the recently eat bugs gets digested.

*BUT you have a dragon that doesnt want to eat. you have to build its appetite back up. So dont offer her food for awhile maybe even a whole day just put fresh greens in her tank. then the following day throw ONE cricket in there. see if she chases it down. If she does only give her one or two more. The last thing you want to do is feed her till she is full. Keep her hungry. If you keep her hungry she will keep a appetite and then hopefully it will be a good start to a recovery. PLEASE read that calcium thread. I know she is lacking calcium. BIG TIME. so tend to it. you can give calcium in smaller doses three times a day for the next few days then once a day for the next solid month. I know this will help but I dont know about a full recovery. Like i said I never dealt with this before.




So much for trying to help. chewing gum and reading now Mac?:shrug01:
 
freebyrd said:
i will pay shipping, i live in lafayette, la....70506...give me a quote... thanks..
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If this is what happens, do you know how to care for her?

I can assist in any other questions or offer suggestions. If you need them. I cannot bring another animal in that has been house with another animal without a proper quarantine area. An right now I dont have it. I can not risk my whole collection.
 
im not sure if it will happen, but yes sir i can handle it, i have had dragons for 3yrs total....right now i have 5 dragons and all are very healthy and in their own setups...no multidragon enclosures here... ive been doing a lot of thinking and im not sure if i want to take it in, i am thinking shipping this animal might cause even more harm than good...so im not totally sure about it....it might be safer for him to keep the dragon and get it healthy...
 
Tom isn't a half a dozen 6? You told me to feed her half a dozen twice a day. No, I am not trying to kill her. I mixed it up and realized that it was for seizures (now). I used to feed her a little more than twelve though, I dont count exactly. Tom I am just saying I don't spend all my time on dragons. This doesn't mean I dont spend any time on them. In case you haven't noticed I am trying to get out of the so called "Hobby".
 
BaseballBeardies said:
Tom isn't a half a dozen 6? You told me to feed her half a dozen twice a day. No, I am not trying to kill her. I mixed it up and realized that it was for seizures (now). I used to feed her a little more than twelve though, I dont count exactly. Tom I am just saying I don't spend all my time on dragons. This doesn't mean I dont spend any time on them. In case you haven't noticed I am trying to get out of the so called "Hobby".
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If your trying to get out of the hobby why are you trying to trade for more dragons? Why are you also asking others to hold stuff for you?

Doesnt really matter. Just care for your animals and put a rush on your plans. I am glad to hear she is growing, and that you are going.
 
hi all, mac agreed to ship her to me...he said the dragon has put on a little weight...i paid him last night for shipping ($40) and i also agreed to send him some feeders (dubia) as a "trade"... let's hope this works out... ill keep yall updated....

thanks..

craig morel
 
freebyrd said:
hi all, mac agreed to ship her to me...he said the dragon has put on a little weight...i paid him last night for shipping ($40) and i also agreed to send him some feeders (dubia) as a "trade"... let's hope this works out... ill keep yall updated....

thanks..

craig morel
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I dont understand why you have to send dubia's for a trade?!?!?

Mac should be sending this animal to you WITH items to care for it. Not you sending him roaches for a "trade"

Thats horse :censored:

Mac, you still trying to sucker people out of there well cared for stuff to care for your animal that you did NOT care for. Guess you found one to prey on. Good job:rolleyes:
 
hey tom no need to go assuming... you know what they say when you assume..., it was my idea to send the roaches because i know he did pay money for the dragon...so i offered to send him some roaches (which i breed myself) so it is really not costing me anything, per se.... but he also hasnt sent me his address to ship them to....i did send him the money via paypal for the dragon, but got no response today to say that he was shipping... so we will see how this turns out...
 
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