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Beware of Jeane Best & Wendy Childs

Dennis,

Telling lies, making unfounded accusations against others, trying to belittle people, etc, etc, etc..... is the only way Jim knows how to live. He cant stand on his own merits as a person, so he has to resort to those kind of tactics to make himself feel good about himself and to try to make his points of view seem more worthy. Truly sad.

And yes there is an "ignore" feature on Fauna. Click on any persons profile and it is right there for all to utilize. Right under the trader rating and warning level.
 
Mike said"""" can't imagine anyone dwelling on this thread as much as you have.
Here's an idea - how about contributing something meaningful to the site for a change Jim! Most of us are getting very tired of your self-serving nonsense!""

And John """"Jim....no offense meant but I can't quite decide if it is time to up your medication or cut the dosage. You are starting to sort of...well...just ramble and drone on. Your past, rather articulate, posts are starting to take on the tone of a petulant kindergartener who thinks he is smarter than the rest of the class. My advice...give up the lost causes on this Board that seem to mean waaaaayyyyyyto much to you and take a MUCH needed sabbatical from posting. Most of us are starting to have trouble taking you seriously.

Take this from someone who, in the past, had a fair amount of respect for your voice on this forum. Take special note of the past tense (had)

Jim you have people here that in the past respected you and your views whom no longer have that respect or much of any at all for you now. You tied your horse to these two indefensible people, fine that's your choice to make. You claim to be impartial yet your words show otherwise. You throw blame all around at the BOI the Mob and anywhere else but where it belongs and that is with Wendy and Jeane and now you. Yes you! you seem to be working behind the scenes now to protect this pair. You claim you have support yet none seems to show its self here. You act as if everyone is out to get these women and by association yourself,.

Ever stop to think that if you'd keep your fingers from wandering all over your keyboard that there would be a lot less hostility here for these two women and yourself? that most of this would have likely died down by now? You are doing these two no favor. And Girls we know you read the thread you might want to consider the harm Jim's fingers have added to what you have done to yourselves and get a clue you keep adding to it with stupid stunts like this last one.. Hell after all this I would have just let the Gecko dieing go to avoid drawing any more attention to myself.

Jim you've done not one tiny bit of good in this thread. Look at it like this what good have you done for the reptile comunity in this thread? none you've hurt it. What good did you do Jeane and Wendy? none you added to the harm they did to them selves. Have you added anything positive to the BOI? Nope nothing just helped make this thread like so many others here and that is hard to read and get any useful info from. You've done alot on the BOI lately and what if any good was any of it?

Didn't call you today was busy and really don't see the use in it. If you have something to say then use your fingers and try to use them in a more positive manner than you have here lately. Randy
 
Wilomn said:
I don't know how he managed to totter up the hill, nor could I really decide which was the older, he or the dirt, dry as heart of a woman scorned; each step sending up a puff of fine dusty grit that got in between ones lips and gums and stuck, acting like glue when moisture from his eye came in contact with the grit of time itself, with a tenacity that would live beyond his span by many years.

He wheezed and panted, sounding like a pig that's met Malachai's Mallat but doesn't know it's dead yet. Everyday I expected to see him stop and sort of topple over backwards, like a great pine cut at its base making its one and only descent to the earth itself. I expected his falling to resound throughout the valley, to shake the windows and doors around us, solid though they were.

But he never did.

Clothes more like rags, worn so long that the original colours could be nothing but a guess, stained and torn and patched so often that I sometimes wondered if there was any original shirt left or if it was all patches held together by nothing but eachother.

His boots, brown like the dirt he trudged through, never had laces laced and sometimes had no toes, but he always had them on. Worn almost flat by time and tread, they made no sound at all as he trudged up the hill, day after day.

The bag on his back he used to carry his wares, his living, and his life. In there were the most amazing things. Wonders from far away, sometimes magic captured in coloured bottles and vials and sometimes dead animals with many legs and fierce biting jaws that no sane man would ever want to meet in real life. You never knew what he would pull out of that big brown bag, brown as the dirt on the road up which he trod in his brown boots day after day after day.

Some days he would pant and wheeze his way up through the town, crying his wares, or ware I should say because in spite of the fact that he had a seemingly bottomless bag of wonders, he only ever cried out for sale one thing per day.

"Carrots," pant pant wheeze he'd breathe as he climbed and called, "beauti-wheeze-ful carrots wheeze pant" and on he'd go, selling his carrots to those in need. And he seemed to have an uncanny knack at knowing what was needed by whom.

The marriage of Goody Smithswife first born daughter is one occasion where he knew. Never before had he carried black silk ribbon, no one had ever called for it, no one had ever worn it. But, unknown to all, except the old man, Goody Smithswife first born daughter had a dream. A small and harmless one, but a dream nonetheless. She dreamed of wearing her Grandmothers Cameo on a Black Silk Ribbon as she walked down the isle.

She had told no one of this small but important dream.

The old man knew.

He knew when to bring extra cloth for baby clothes not too many months later too.

And so it went, up he trudged, bringing what was needed to those who lacked.

Then one day he started calling out for salt. "Salt for sale, special salt for sale now, not for just anyone, only for one anyone, salt for sale," he went on up the hill and over and out of site for the night.

Next day the same thing.

And the day after.

And the day after that.

Then I began to wonder what was wrong. The old man, in all the years I had watched him hike up that dirty dusty road, had never cried the same thing two days in a row, much less 4.

So I stopped the old man, let him take a few minutes to stop his panting and wheezing and I said to him, "Old Man, why the salt for so long?"

"It's a special blend, made for only one person but he won't come claim it," the Old Man said. "I've been trying 4 days in a row and he won't admit he needs it or deserves it or however it works, I'm just the delivery boy," he muttered, beginning to chew his beard.

"You see," he began, spitting out his now wet and used paintbrush resembling beard, "some people are so masochistic, so very much narcissitic, so very much in need of having everything be about them no matter the pain or discomfort involved," at which point having said more words in a row than anyone had ever heard him utter, he wheezed and panted a bit before continuing, "some people," he began again, "are sooooooo hooked on pain and being seen as martyrs that I sometimes have special salt just for them."

He picked up his bag and slung it over his shoulder, the weight of it almost spinning his spindly old legs in a complete circle before he staggared upright, he asked, "you don't happen to know where that sharphorn guy is do you? This load of salt is for his wounds. Something about him wanting to be seen salting his own wounds in public or some such nonsense."

Wheeze pant trudge "salt, salt for your wounds......sharphorn, salt for your wounds......wheeze wheeze


Are you sure he was looking for sharphorn Wes? Could he have salt for two?
 
Wilomn said:
I don't know how he managed to totter up the hill, nor could I really decide which was the older, he or the dirt, dry as heart of a woman scorned; each step sending up a puff of fine dusty grit that got in between ones lips and gums and stuck, acting like glue when moisture from his eye came in contact with the grit of time itself, with a tenacity that would live beyond his span by many years.

He wheezed and panted, sounding like a pig that's met Malachai's Mallat but doesn't know it's dead yet. Everyday I expected to see him stop and sort of topple over backwards, like a great pine cut at its base making its one and only descent to the earth itself. I expected his falling to resound throughout the valley, to shake the windows and doors around us, solid though they were.

But he never did.

Clothes more like rags, worn so long that the original colours could be nothing but a guess, stained and torn and patched so often that I sometimes wondered if there was any original shirt left or if it was all patches held together by nothing but eachother.

His boots, brown like the dirt he trudged through, never had laces laced and sometimes had no toes, but he always had them on. Worn almost flat by time and tread, they made no sound at all as he trudged up the hill, day after day.

The bag on his back he used to carry his wares, his living, and his life. In there were the most amazing things. Wonders from far away, sometimes magic captured in coloured bottles and vials and sometimes dead animals with many legs and fierce biting jaws that no sane man would ever want to meet in real life. You never knew what he would pull out of that big brown bag, brown as the dirt on the road up which he trod in his brown boots day after day after day.

Some days he would pant and wheeze his way up through the town, crying his wares, or ware I should say because in spite of the fact that he had a seemingly bottomless bag of wonders, he only ever cried out for sale one thing per day.

"Carrots," pant pant wheeze he'd breathe as he climbed and called, "beauti-wheeze-ful carrots wheeze pant" and on he'd go, selling his carrots to those in need. And he seemed to have an uncanny knack at knowing what was needed by whom.

The marriage of Goody Smithswife first born daughter is one occasion where he knew. Never before had he carried black silk ribbon, no one had ever called for it, no one had ever worn it. But, unknown to all, except the old man, Goody Smithswife first born daughter had a dream. A small and harmless one, but a dream nonetheless. She dreamed of wearing her Grandmothers Cameo on a Black Silk Ribbon as she walked down the isle.

She had told no one of this small but important dream.

The old man knew.

He knew when to bring extra cloth for baby clothes not too many months later too.

And so it went, up he trudged, bringing what was needed to those who lacked.

Then one day he started calling out for salt. "Salt for sale, special salt for sale now, not for just anyone, only for one anyone, salt for sale," he went on up the hill and over and out of site for the night.

Next day the same thing.

And the day after.

And the day after that.

Then I began to wonder what was wrong. The old man, in all the years I had watched him hike up that dirty dusty road, had never cried the same thing two days in a row, much less 4.

So I stopped the old man, let him take a few minutes to stop his panting and wheezing and I said to him, "Old Man, why the salt for so long?"

"It's a special blend, made for only one person but he won't come claim it," the Old Man said. "I've been trying 4 days in a row and he won't admit he needs it or deserves it or however it works, I'm just the delivery boy," he muttered, beginning to chew his beard.

"You see," he began, spitting out his now wet and used paintbrush resembling beard, "some people are so masochistic, so very much narcissitic, so very much in need of having everything be about them no matter the pain or discomfort involved," at which point having said more words in a row than anyone had ever heard him utter, he wheezed and panted a bit before continuing, "some people," he began again, "are sooooooo hooked on pain and being seen as martyrs that I sometimes have special salt just for them."

He picked up his bag and slung it over his shoulder, the weight of it almost spinning his spindly old legs in a complete circle before he staggared upright, he asked, "you don't happen to know where that sharphorn guy is do you? This load of salt is for his wounds. Something about him wanting to be seen salting his own wounds in public or some such nonsense."

Wheeze pant trudge "salt, salt for your wounds......sharphorn, salt for your wounds......wheeze wheeze
DOH!!! Ruined my own joke. I am SOOO bad with names.

It should have said FLAHERTY, not sharphorn.

damn damn damn
 
ravensgait said:
Didn't call you today was busy and really don't see the use in it. If you have something to say then use your fingers and try to use them in a more positive manner than you have here lately. Randy

Yeah what is it with Jim's obsession with having people call him? And then for him to act offended when his request is denied? No only offended but acts flat out accusatory like the person is trying to hide something because they dont want to talk to him. Has it never entered his head that people dont want to talk to him simply because they dont like him and have heard enough of his BS already to last a life time?
 
Dennis Hultman said:
A gift, to all here.
Afterwards, this
Originally Posted by Chameleon Company
When you put me on Fauna "ignore", which doesn't exist BTW, do you just get a big blank when I post ?
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Dennis Thank You I'm New to alot of this,But i can't stand to see him ,do this to him self any more..To bring harm to the things you love the most"Reptiles and Others who share this pasion with You" what a gift indeed.Long Live Herpaculture and People that truly love theses Great Animals :)

Greg VanZweden

http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/
Forever Trust in What We Are and Nothing Else Matters
 
Dennis Hultman said:
I don’t have to state it but I will. Most know Mike Greathouse doesn’t usually get involved in these threads. He has always remained professional and nobody could say with a straight face that he is part of any “mob mentality” or ‘lacked class”, as someone suggested.

To even suggest that Mike "lacked class" shows the character of Jim and his underlying motives. Jim, you and I have exchanged PM's a time or two. I HAD respect for you at one point in time. I, just like numerous other individuals on this board, see you for exactly what you are. You are the very thing you claim others to be.

I would rather be in the Wes Fan Club then the Wendy Fan Club like you are so vehemently involved in. You are who you associate with and Jim, you are of the same ilk.

Griz
 
Wow.....to choose to stand up for someone like Wendy, who has proven time and time again what kind of scum she is, and then insult someone like Mike Greathouse, who has proven himself time and time again to be a completely upstanding and outstanding member of the reptile community?

The only answer I can come up with here is that Jim F. is not thinking with the correct head, beacuse anyone using the smallest amount of gray matter here would know better.

As Griz stated, I really used to respect you, Jim....even when our opinions differed. But now, well......I am just disgusted.
 
Griz, Cathy, etc.
900+ posts. And of late, we have "Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny", and somebody else who I do not recall, from Mike "of class". All due respect to Mike, my comment was that those who chose not to make multiple posts here, as they deemed it was a folly, may have made that choice because they had more class than Mike. It was not directed towards Santa though, whom I respect. His post did lack class, IMMHO :)

Cat. You are welcome to opinions that the multiple posters here, and the level of insults, represent a cross section of society, or maybe just the reptile community. Again trying not to laugh, but the overwhelming bulk of this thread is a farce, and it is not representative of any cross-section. I feel confident that everyone with more than 10 posts in this thread has disgusted somebody, and many with less than 10. I think you realize that my opinions are not formulated with regard to whether the "cross section" here agrees with me. And I have to live with those that I have disgusted. Lets not forgot that in the round of the last 200 posts or so, between all the "liar, whore, thief, scammer ....." labels that had to be said again, the "seller" admitted that she owed the "buyer" compensation, and then paid it. Others agreed. So "disgust" away Cat.

Bob. I made my points to you in PM. As I said earlier, I need not insult you or others when we disagree, I only need disagree. And then its off to the races, although you aren't as quick to nonsense as the likes of others here. Here, in the BOI, the rhetoric of insults will always quickly follow from the same handful. And thus the vast stupidity that is the bulk of this thread. Is there not a better example than Sammy?
 
For my part, I wouldn't buy from Wendy or Jeane if they were the only ones that sold what I wanted. Fortunately there are plenty of options for those that want their type of geckos. These two come with too much baggage and about 80% of it is deserved, in my opinion.
Like Bill Leverton said in an earlier post. There no one's opinion is likely to be changed from here on, regardless of what is produced. It is hard for me to believe that anyone, even their supporter, wouldn't have some trepidation in dealing with them. But to each his own. I hope it works out if he does.
 
Kevin,
Marvelously well stated opinion, and we have many areas of agreement. The specifics will just have to remain a mystery. To post disagreement without insult ... a lost art of late ..... but very refreshing !
 
Chameleon Company said:
Here, in the BOI, the rhetoric of insults will always quickly follow from the same handful. And thus the vast stupidity that is the bulk of this thread. Is there not a better example than Sammy?

Pot, kettle, black. Being quite the hypocrite there aint you Jim? For everything you state about others you are guilty of yourself. Just because you state your words a little more eloquently than most, does not make their meaning any different. I can put perfume on a pile of dog crap, but it is still just a pile of dog crap.

You are the only person on this or any other board who has treated me in such a manner as to get this kind of reaction from me, Jim. Maybe if you try treating others with respect yourself, try not to belittle them or insult their intelligence.... we would be on a very different level with one another. What is happening between you and many people on this board is of your own making. The day you actually show some respect for others and their opinions will be the day you get the same in return.
 
shrap said:
Pot, kettle, black. Being quite the hypocrite there aint you Jim? For everything you state about others you are guilty of yourself. Just because you state your words a little more eloquently than most, does not make their meaning any different. I can put perfume on a pile of dog crap, but it is still just a pile of dog crap.

You are the only person on this or any other board who has treated me in such a manner as to get this kind of reaction from me, Jim. Maybe if you try treating others with respect yourself, try not to belittle them or insult their intelligence.... we would be on a very different level with one another. What is happening between you and many people on this board is of your own making. The day you actually show some respect for others and their opinions will be the day you get the same in return.

short and sweet... agreed....
 
I have to reply at the risk of being attacked, I just can't help myself. I was nearly ripped off by these two a few months ago over their so-called colored rankins until several people contacted me, not just one or two but several, stating that these were not full blooded rankins but a hybrid. In order to get color in rankins, they must be breed into vitticeps and then back out again. I did get my two rankins but not from these women. Now my question is, with all the evidence posted here against these two, why in the world would anyone continually defend them? No, evidence to the contrary, just one insult after another. Jim you stated something about people insulting each other then you turned right around in the same breathe and insulted Sammy. Defend them if you want, it doesn't change the fact they they have ripped off too many people just to line their pocketbooks. I have to ask, what are you getting out of all this?
 
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