Bad Guy Beware of Panther Company

[Chris Kennard]

No he didn't claim ownership but that's not why I posted that. Oh Lord u wasted my time for that?

See how easy? Thank you.

 

[choppers1]

God dam.....

 

[Chris Kennard]

wow josh an Vinnie get more pathetic each day.. digging his hole deeper and deeper with the lies and games late last night Josh P made a faked profile on facebook as a girl an joined chameleons gone wild as a girl named Kiera Sheppard asking what people thought of a called nosy faly we all said if she was goin to breed to pass on panther company but kiera "josh" kept going on an on about panther co so I figured it was some kind of game/scam an sure enough the pic I found came from some girl in New Zealand an her real name is liza , as soon as I called her "josh" on it being a scam josh deleted the whole thread then deleted the profile.. Vinny was their in cgw the whole time part of the game so he got his names banned from the group..hes the first one in a group that's doesn't ban people unless they outright harass people an what Josh did was harassing so both are banned.. I been trying to just let this trainwreck go as all the evidence speaks for itself on what this company an josh himself are about but just when you think he couldn't get any lamer Josh makes a faked profile of a girl ...

Can you please post your proof of these accusations?

 

[jishillencik]

Josh said:



I was just showing that wasn't the case. We issued a refund and weren't going to say anything about it (though I did ask Lam if the animal had had an appetite problem) -- but then James asked if we had pics or he was sold, I responded honestly, then Josh asked for pics.

Why was it so easy for you to reproduce these screenshots but none to show that you notified customers of your "mistakes" with labeling...I feel like Im beating a dead horse but come on man seriously??

 

[james200111]

Chris I believe the thing here is he sold that same chameleon as an cbb ambanja. Then after finding out the dams lineage didn't match up he had it returned. Then a month later it miraculously turned into a f1 faly after being ambanja. Now all of a sudden he is asking opinions of people to see what local they think it is because he more than likely has no idea as he stated in screen shot wc female used s of he doesn't know if in fact it is faly or ambanja/faly or what local besides part faly because he used wc faly sire. That's all that was stated was that so hard to see Chris?

 

[jishillencik]

Wow! That's terrible. How dare he!

Seeing as he produced the animal, sold it as an ambanja, then again as f1 faly, I would hope he would have figured it out by now and not needed to ask others opinions on the locale of the animal that originated at his facility (opinion). It is also my opinion if he had any doubts he should have asked others more experienced in the first place before selling him twice.

 

[jishillencik]

I simply asked you a question in post #261. You can't answer it. And YOU are missing the point. You don't even know what my opinion is. And there is no argument going on here. I posted questions. You guys avoided them. By all means, quote where I argued over things that you posted evidence of. Stop doing the melodramatic dance and answer the question.

This whole BOI Panther Company fails to address my questions whatsoever in post #56 as well throughout this whole thread...I dont see you trolling on anything he has contributed here.

 

[Panther Company]

I was polling for opinions on locale because I was pretty sure they'd be overwhelmingly "Nosy Faly", and I was actually going to post screenshots of that here.

I tried to be vague by just saying "locale?", partly not to bias the responses, but also partly because it's an international group with a lot of European members, so I generally keep commentary minimal.

The idea that it proves something malicious or that I was caught red handed in posting that is confusing.

 

[Panther Company]

Josh -- if you look at the screenshot Lam posted, I very clearly said in the comments (after several guesses, most of which were Nosy Faly) -- I said he was from a WC sire and dam

 

[Chris Kennard]

Chris I believe the thing here is he sold that same chameleon as an cbb ambanja. Then after finding out the dams lineage didn't match up he had it returned. Then a month later it miraculously turned into a f1 faly after being ambanja. Now all of a sudden he is asking opinions of people to see what local they think it is because he more than likely has no idea as he stated in screen shot wc female used s of he doesn't know if in fact it is faly or ambanja/faly or what local besides part faly because he used wc faly sire. That's all that was stated was that so hard to see Chris?

Was post #255 so hard for you to see, or answer. My questions have absolutely nothing to do with anything you posted.

 

[jishillencik]

Josh -- if you look at the screenshot Lam posted, I very clearly said in the comments (after several guesses, most of which were Nosy Faly) -- I said he was from a WC sire and dam

Answer my questions in post #56 and provide evidence for your claims. As well as address the FACT that you labeled females as Ambanja when you openly stated that they came from a sire you thought to be a Nosy Be cross (shown in posts #177-198). As Mr. kennard so bluntly puts it "Put up or shut up". Stop wasting everyone's time.

 

[shaunaroxanne]

I was polling for opinions on locale because I was pretty sure they'd be overwhelmingly "Nosy Faly", and I was actually going to post screenshots of that here.

I tried to be vague by just saying "locale?", partly not to bias the responses, but also partly because it's an international group with a lot of European members, so I generally keep commentary minimal.

The idea that it proves something malicious or that I was caught red handed in posting that is confusing.

Josh, I believe the issue is that you seemed to be sure that the chameleon was ambabja when you sold him to me, but then you said that he was a faly that got into the wrong bin, and that you were sure he was a faly when you sold him to Lam. However; now you are asking others what locale he appears to be, which gives the impression that you are still uncertain as to his locale. I am not trying to beat a dead horse here, please understand that, I am just confused myself now, as well. Are you still unsure of his locale?

 

[james200111]

Was post #255 so hard for you to see, or answer. My questions have absolutely nothing to do with anything you posted.

No but your ignorance of the boi is compelling as if you haven't read it in its entirety. Obviously I answered your questions stating yo why the screen shots were posted. Please read whole boi before making remarks with no barring at all to any of this thanks again

 

[Chris Kennard]

This whole BOI Panther Company fails to address my questions whatsoever in post #56 as well throughout this whole thread...I dont see you trolling on anything he has contributed here.

Trolling, lol. So asking people to be held accountable for their accusations is trolling?

 

[Panther Company]

We're certain which pairing produced him. He is the oldest male, that will/won't prove out his wild caught dam. I believed/believe he looks Faly -- particularly like some of the European ones featured in the group that Lam got the screenshot from. Does that make more sense?

 

[jishillencik]

We're certain which pairing produced him. He is the oldest male, that will/won't prove out his wild caught dam. I believed/believe he looks Faly -- particularly like some of the European ones featured in the group that Lam got the screenshot from. Does that make more sense?

Answer my questions in post #56, provide evidence, and address the fact you were caught advertising animals as pure you thought to be a cross in posts #177-198. Im copying and pasting this to every post until you "post up or shut up".

 

[jishillencik]

Trolling, lol. So asking people to be held accountable for their accusations is trolling?

Id say 90% of the accusations that have been made here have been met with sufficient evidence. It seems useless to squabble over the very few opinions on this thread that have not been met with evidence. But of course, this is also my opinion.

 

[shaunaroxanne]

We're certain which pairing produced him. He is the oldest male, that will/won't prove out his wild caught dam. I believed/believe he looks Faly -- particularly like some of the European ones featured in the group that Lam got the screenshot from. Does that make more sense?

No, it doesn't make sense to me, but I have no experience with WCs, or what is typically involved with proving them out, so perhaps my misunderstanding is partially due to my inexperience with them.

There has been so much controversy surrounding this guy, I'm sure you had to expect some questions would be raised when you posted him today asking opinions on his locale?

 

[Panther Company]

Josh your questions in #56 have either been thoroughly answered already or were scare crow arguments masquerading as questions. every time i've post a screenshot it's just been doubted and used to keep this thread going longer.

I do full acknowledge that we had females from Iwo, who is siblings to your dam's sire, and I believe their line looks quite a bit more like Nosy Be than Ambanja. If you share the same concern for maintaining the looks of specific locales, I would advise you and others to avoid them in your Ambanja breeding programs.

 

[jishillencik]

Josh your questions in #56 have either been thoroughly answered already or were scare crow arguments masquerading as questions. every time i've post a screenshot it's just been doubted and used to keep this thread going longer.

I do full acknowledge that we had females from Iwo, who is siblings to your dam's sire, and I believe their line looks quite a bit more like Nosy Be than Ambanja. If you share the same concern for maintaining the looks of specific locales, I would advise you and others to avoid them in your Ambanja breeding programs.

So your lack of evidence is because we, your accusers, doubt them?? Surely you care what the readers think. Provide evidence that you notified customers of your "mistakes" . The point of posts 177-198 is not to show Chucks lines to be crosses or my opinion on the matter (i think he's pure), but you THINKING AND OPENLY STATING THEM AS CROSSES THEN LABELING THE FEMALES AS PURE. You were caught wholesaling the males and misrepresented the females for something other that what yo h CLAIMED them to be here on this BOI.