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Jim O said:
Easy enough to get a quick read on this by looking at the IP's of the posts. Any mod want to help us?
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Their IP's are dynamic but they are both using DirecWay Satelite as their ISP. But, if you look at their IPs.....

Bill - 66.82.9.xx

Matt - 66.82.9.xx

The only difference is the last octat. This is not conclusive so form your own opinions.
 
Casey Hulse said:
to make sure that we are not getting "played"
So Bill sr. went from making custom furniture to selling boas just like that? He must have seen great opportunity buying/stealing then reselling them.
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Let me say that I know I said my last post was it.But now this is getting down right stupid.You cant go after me so lets start questionings about my boy.Because he has the same name Geeeezz you people are out there.are you going to track down anymore of my family that have accounts here ?? Casey if you need to know it from Sr thats me,The reason wasn't only the snakes I decided that I would partner with someone in a pet store venture and other then me saying that I stole the snake,It was said to shut the chest thumping wanna be alpha males up.you people can believe what you will and at this point I really don't care. This thread was never about the true or lies,It was more about seeing your words up on the screen and the trashing you could throw my way. and I will save the Mods the trouble it will show that my son and I live in the same town.. 4 houses apart...Via Satellite hook up I know its going to be lets just keep stomping so if that is what your lives are all about then its your life not mine.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Let me say that I know I said my last post was it.But now this is getting down right stupid.You cant go after me so lets start questionings about my boy.Because he has the same name Geeeezz you people are out there.are you going to track down anymore of my family that have accounts here ?? Casey if you need to know it from Sr thats me,The reason wasn't only the snakes I decided that I would partner with someone in a pet store venture and other then me saying that I stole the snake,It was said to shut the chest thumping wanna be alpha males up.you people can believe what you will and at this point I really don't care. This thread was never about the true or lies,It was more about seeing your words up on the screen and the trashing you could throw my way. and I will save the Mods the trouble it will show that my son and I live in the same town.. 4 houses apart...Via Satellite hook up I know its going to be lets just keep stomping so if that is what your lives are all about then its your life not mine.
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oooops type to slow
 
This thread was never about the true or lies,It was more about seeing your words up on the screen and the trashing you could throw my way
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So do you think this thread would have made if you hadn't stolen the snake, and lied? Do you think if it wasn't proven that you are scum, and you hadn't finally admitted to it that you would still be getting trashed? The trash talk is a direct effect of you being a thief. Had you not been such a dissapointment, this thread wouldn't have ever come up.
How does that feel to have your son change his name here so that he is no way associated with, or confused with you?
Were all of those posts made by Kodiak Wood in the past made by Matt, or Bill? If they were made by Bill, why say that Kodiak Wood was his son's user name, and all he changed was the signature?
 
DAND said:
Are you implying that you didn't take the snake from Lee, that you just said you did to stop the inquiry?
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Would it of really mattered what I said ? I was convicted in the eyes of 95 % of the people here so why continue with the truth. I started out saying I would send his money then that wasn't good enough. Someone said I was just trying to buy way out...No answer would of been the right one so why try ??
 
Bill,

The IP addresses are similar and that is convenient. And we should believe you why? You are an admitted LIAR and THIEF. Found God? I think those are two of the "Big Ten", aren't they?

Now...let me tell you a bit about responsibility. This is a story told to me a while back by someone who had the same name as his father. Dad turned out to be a deadbeat on a bunch of loans and a slow payer on his credit accounts. Guess what. The son, with the same first and last names living in the same zip code worked in a bank. Yes, he was a banker. And he had trouble getting a mortgage because his father's crap always showed up when a credit report was generated. It didn't matter that they had different dates of birth and social security numbers. It looked like they *might* be the same person and that was all that it took to put this person's credit in limbo, if not in hell. Imagine also having to explain that when applying for jobs in financial services, as you can be quite certain a full credit report is generated before a job offer is tendered.

This person's analysis is that when one gives one's son one's own name it is the father and not the son who incurs an obligation to live up to the name, because the sins of the fathers are often visited upon said sons, rightly or wrongly.

Think about it Bill.
 
KodiakWood said:
I am here to set the record straight,Yes it true that Kodiakwood stopped posting in June of last year @that time it was my dad that was doing business with those people.
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You people need to improve your reading skills.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Would it of really mattered what I said ? I was convicted in the eyes of 95 % of the people here so why continue with the truth. I started out saying I would send his money then that wasn't good enough. Someone said I was just trying to buy way out...No answer would of been the right one so why try ??
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Bill, that was the same snake. Now you are backtracking and saying "why continue with the truth". You are so twisted you don't know a lie from the truth.
 
Jim O said:
Bill,

The IP addresses are similar and that is convenient. And we should believe you why? You are an admitted LIAR and THIEF. Found God? I think those are two of the "Big Ten", aren't they?

Now...let me tell you a bit about responsibility. This is a story told to me a while back by someone who had the same name as his father. Dad turned out to be a deadbeat on a bunch of loans and a slow payer on his credit accounts. Guess what. The son, with the same first and last names living in the same zip code worked in a bank. Yes, he was a banker. And he had trouble getting a mortgage because his father's crap always showed up when a credit report was generated. It didn't matter that they had different dates of birth and social security numbers. It looked like they *might* be the same person and that was all that it took to put this person's credit in limbo, if not in hell. Imagine also having to explain that when applying for jobs in financial services, as you can be quite certain a full credit report is generated before a job offer is tendered.

This person's analysis is that when one gives one's son one's own name it is the father and not the son who incurs an obligation to live up to the name, because the sins of the fathers are often visited upon said sons, rightly or wrongly.

Think about it Bill.
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Jim I do understand what you are saying . But I cant turn back time and change this crap you can live in the past if you want to but I wont.I did it and will move on thats all anyone can do.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Would it of really mattered what I said?
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Said, probably not, but a picture is worth a thousand words.

Clearwater_Reptiles said:
I was convicted in the eyes of 95 % of the people here so why continue with the truth. I started out saying I would send his money then that wasn't good enough. Someone said I was just trying to buy way out...No answer would of been the right one so why try ??
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I don't know which move would more stupid; actually scamming someone or admitting to scamming someone just to stop the inquiry.
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Would it of really mattered what I said ? I was convicted in the eyes of 95 % of the people here so why continue with the truth. I started out saying I would send his money then that wasn't good enough. Someone said I was just trying to buy way out...No answer would of been the right one so why try ??
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Bill, you were convicted because you did it. Even you admitted that you stole the snake! It's obvious that you were trying to buy your way out once people began agreeing that it was the same snake. I find it odd that you made a big show of having your Good Guy Certification taken away, yet looking at the poll...you still have yourself as a good guy. If you really felt that way, and if you were truly remorseful, you would have deleted your vote and slunk off into the hole from whence you came.
 
Look Lee got paid, I really don't know what more you want.Pictures aren't going to happen the snakes are gone,People not buying from me well in the real world we know that isn't going to happen, People not selling to me because of this thread well I guess it will be a cash and care deal. Life goes on and you or me cant stop it now can we ?
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Look Lee got paid, I really don't know what more you want.Pictures aren't going to happen the snakes are gone,People not buying from me well in the real world we know that isn't going to happen, People not selling to me because of this thread well I guess it will be a cash and care deal. Life goes on and you or me cant stop it now can we ?
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Look Lee got paid, I really don't know what more you want.Pictures aren't going to happen the snakes are gone,People not buying from me well in the real world we know that isn't going to happen, People not selling to me because of this thread well I guess it will be a cash and carry deal. Life goes on and you or me cant stop it now can we ?
 
Clearwater_Reptiles said:
Let me say that I know I said my last post was it.But now this is getting down right stupid.You cant go after me so lets start questionings about my boy.Because he has the same name Geeeezz you people are out there.are you going to track down anymore of my family that have accounts here ?? Casey if you need to know it from Sr thats me,The reason wasn't only the snakes I decided that I would partner with someone in a pet store venture and other then me saying that I stole the snake,It was said to shut the chest thumping wanna be alpha males up.you people can believe what you will and at this point I really don't care. This thread was never about the true or lies,It was more about seeing your words up on the screen and the trashing you could throw my way. and I will save the Mods the trouble it will show that my son and I live in the same town.. 4 houses apart...Via Satellite hook up I know its going to be lets just keep stomping so if that is what your lives are all about then its your life not mine.
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Bill, I think the questions raised are fair. That is why I asked you yesterday if it was your account. You said no. So it was quite confusing to say the least. My questions had nothing to do with your family and nobody was going after your son. I was not being nasty, I think they are valid questions that are on topic about you.
 
Who bought it, Bill? Maybe they could take some pics for us and clear your name. Then all we would have is you lieing to make everyone happy, since you couldn't disprove anything. All you said was what people wanted to hear. You didn't steal that snake did you? See if you can get the buyer to snap some pics for us.
Just out of curiosity, how much did you sell it for?
 
I'll see what I can do, seeing as I dont get peoples life stories before I do business people come and go through my house and I didnt sell it I traded for another snake
 
Golly gee guys! your all ganging up on ole Bill a little bit harshly here, dont' you think? I mean I'm sure there is an underlying reason that may explain (but not excuse) his behavior as of late. After all.....he didn't strike me as such a bad guy
before he made this "mistake"....you all aught to tone down the vitral a little bit. I mean some of you are starting to sound like a broken record. :bleep:
 
Wow, small world. Last I read it was for sale on reptibid. I wasn't aware that you could bid trades on there. What do you do, just bid the total trade value of the animals you have, and you are binded to the trade with the high bidder, no matter what they have? Must be nice to have a winning bidder close enough to pick the snakes up too.
 
Wow this thread is out of hand. I must say, the fact that he "admitted it", does not change the fact that this has been a kangaroo court from damn near the get-go. I sat down and read most of it, skipped a bunch of pages out of the middle as there was a series of beligerant posts that were growing quite tiresome. I do not quite understand what has yet to be resolved, the defendent was forced to prove his innocense (really fits with our legal system) and susequently under pressure "admitted it". I do not like snakes and would never have any reason to buy/sell from him. But something about how this whole "trial" was conducted I found unsettleing.
 
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