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Bill Leverton SCAMMER beware

"What about a sanity check? That would eliminate Scolaro."

Yes, and after reading Bill's last few responses here, I think it would eliminate Bill as well...
 
Wow

I dont know how many weeks late and dollars short I am on this one, but haveing made it to all of page 5 before going to the last post function, I have a OPINION on this case.

Reputation one way or another I believe that snake is the same. I think if you twist the angles and direction of the photograph that distinctive mushroom looking saddle would match up perfect. FAR FAR FAR to many saddles match up on that animal for it to not be one in the same IMO.

I dont buy the whole in the box for one instance. I dont know if after page 5 the question of any sort of report with UPS was made or not, but I get the feeling one wasnt, again fishy. The offer of a refund at page 5 with only a couple of opinions in, also to me rings of guilt.

If any of this was cleared up further past page 5 (Im guessing doubtfull) feel free to email me links privately, and if Im wrong I will say so here, but I doubt it.

On a side note I have not dealt with either parties, and really have nothing to gain, this is just my OPINION.
 
Mickey_TLK said:
Wow

I dont know how many weeks late and dollars short I am on this one, but haveing made it to all of page 5 before going to the last post function, I have a OPINION on this case.

Reputation one way or another I believe that snake is the same. I think if you twist the angles and direction of the photograph that distinctive mushroom looking saddle would match up perfect. FAR FAR FAR to many saddles match up on that animal for it to not be one in the same IMO.

I dont buy the whole in the box for one instance. I dont know if after page 5 the question of any sort of report with UPS was made or not, but I get the feeling one wasnt, again fishy. The offer of a refund at page 5 with only a couple of opinions in, also to me rings of guilt.

If any of this was cleared up further past page 5 (Im guessing doubtfull) feel free to email me links privately, and if Im wrong I will say so here, but I doubt it.

On a side note I have not dealt with either parties, and really have nothing to gain, this is just my OPINION.
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Mickey, Here are a few pages you might like to go back and look through. On page 14, Snakehorse cropped the snake pictures, so you can see the comparisons. Page 20, Bill confesses. Page 145, Bill gets cought shill bidding. Page 147, Are screen shots of Bills alias bidding on his auctions. Page 170, Bill states that shill bidding is normal business practices. Ummm, I thick that was all the big things. If I left anything out, I am sure someone will post it here.
 
Lee Herps said:
Mickey, Here are a few pages you might like to go back and look through. On page 14, Snakehorse cropped the snake pictures, so you can see the comparisons. Page 20, Bill confesses. Page 145, Bill gets cought shill bidding. Page 147, Are screen shots of Bills alias bidding on his auctions. Page 170, Bill states that shill bidding is normal business practices. Ummm, I thick that was all the big things. If I left anything out, I am sure someone will post it here.
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Lee, FYI, posts per page are a user option so some of us have 40 posts per page and are on page 24. In the future you might want to refer to post numbers.
 
I know Mickey is on the 5 posts per page because of this statement "The offer of a refund at page 5 with only a couple of opinions in, also to me rings of guilt.". I used page numbers since Mickey was using them as reference. But, in the future I will use post numbers since it would be a better reference.
 
The point was that someone else coming to the thread may not be. It wasn't meant as a criticism, just a comment. :>poke2<:
 
Just when the thread can't get any worse...

We have a couple of posters who haven't read the thread jumping in with their opinions! Woo hoo! And they are both wrong, go figure.

At least Neil Gubitz saw the pics before jumping on the wrong horse.

I think I'll ask my dog what he thinks and post his thoughts in a bit...
 
Actually to clarify a few things here, I DID see the first pics used to start the thread, and have based my OPINION (right or wrong in your eyes) on thoose photographs.

Secondly I had actually gotten to about the 8th page (plenty in my mind to form an opinion) prior to posting (not the 5th as I had stated, I was just guessing).

Was I supposed to read 190 pages of bs to come to a OPINION?
 
"We have a couple of posters who haven't read the thread jumping in with their opinions! Woo hoo! And they are both wrong, go figure."

Actually, that is not true. Mickey_TLK was correct. They are the same snake, and that has been well established. Ya, micky is a little late, but he was correct. I will give him credit for that!
 
Mickey_TLK said:
Was I supposed to read 190 pages of bs to come to a OPINION?
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Aww come on Mickey, are really going to sit there and tell us you did not have 3 or 4 days to burn reading all the pages? I mean at least 150 of them probably had little to nothing to do with the topic at hand. hehe
 
Mickey_TLK said:
Was I supposed to read 190 pages of bs to come to a OPINION?
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Come on Mickey! Where's your sense of commitment? I never took you for a slacker! ;) :raspberry


(Truth be told, you would have to be an idiot to read this entire thread! 80-90% of it is nothing more than people goading Bill into making a complete fool out of himself...and it worked. ;))
 
No...Mickey WAS correct

That it was the same snake...he was incorrect in saying it wouldn't be proven/admitted (or something like that). He even said he would apologize if he was wrong about that. He was wrong about that.

No apology needed...I'm just clarifying my "critique". Peace!

By the way...Bill Leverton is a scamming discredit to the herpetocultural hobby.
 
Bah ... come on its not the same snake! Hell one of the sets of pictures is actually an eel! I would post more but I have to go finish cooking my crack.
 
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