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Bill Leverton SCAMMER beware

Look at #285 and #286

If you did not mean it as such, it was taken that way by not only me. And I feel that you calling Wes a liar is more than a bad post but bad judgement on your part.

You are judging others based on the facts presented, thats what the BOI is for but YOU can get your point across much better and it be taken with much more value if you chose your wording differently.
 
Gecko_Den said:
Except you gave them to me first. if you want to retaliate for negative rep points, sack it up and spend the extra bucks to see who left them for you...

That's not your M.O. though is it? You prefer to go in running your mouth, making assumptions and shpouting you tired preaching long after anything you say has any relevance or worth. In your own way you are almost as pathetic as the scammers.
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I see a whole bunch of people running their mouths on this thread including you and your running it loudly at this point..
Who died and left you relevance and worth judge? I'm almost as pathetic as the scammers?.....man.....I wouldnt say that about you Sam....I couldn't stoop to that level. I don't even know you but keep typing, I want to know more.
 
Did I miss something?

It took me a while to wade through everything on this thread. I started reading last night , and had to hit the hay to prepare for a rough day at work. When I got home, I read through the rest.
I understand that some wanted to give Bill kudos after he "came clean" and all, but did the lies stop there? I KNOW I read somewhere that he needed the money because he was having problems because of a surgery he had or something...then I KNOW I read that it was because he was in over his head with a boa addiction. Which is it? Somewhere along the way , he lied after he came clean. Does that sound like someone that really wants to take a different path?
If it was the surgery that lead him to his problems, I feel for him.We have been there, and I have no insurance. My wife had surgery earlier in the year, and we now owe about 30k in bills for that. The only time I ever thought about trying to...for lack of a better phrase ..."Make some money on the side", was prior to the surgery. I didn't know how we were going to come up with the money to have it. We needed a down payment, and had no insurance.Well guess what. We made it through without stealing, and NOTHING is easier than paying off medical bills. We HAVE to pay $50 or so a month. We pay about 5 times that, but the minimum is $50.
If he already had the surgery, then the "dire straights" caused by it don't work for me. If he said he was doing it to come up wth money to pay for it, I could ALMOST see it, and even then it would be wrong, but I would better understand.
For the record, I sold 6 of my holdback boas at 1/4 of their value to make the downpayment, and even though that hurt, I wont be thinking about it every time I come to the BOI, or try to make a sale.
If it had nothing to do with a surgery, and merely an addiction to buying snakes...BURN baby BURN!
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
Look at #285 and #286

If you did not mean it as such, it was taken that way by not only me. And I feel that you calling Wes a liar is more than a bad post but bad judgement on your part.

You are judging others based on the facts presented, thats what the BOI is for but YOU can get your point across much better and it be taken with much more value if you chose your wording differently.
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I just choose my wording based on what I percieve to be the truth. I'm not going to color it for anyone. If you think I called Wes a liar, your wrong. I have been around here for a little while and seen Wes in action. The last thing I would call him is a liar.
 
Ophis said:
What comes around goes around.
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Joe, if you are directing that comment at me, feel free to hit my rep points any time you feel the need to. But remember your above statement when doing so.
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
Joe, if you are directing that comment at me, feel free to hit my rep points any time you feel the need to. But remember your above statement when doing so.
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I wasn't directing the comment at you. I was obviously directing it at Sam as it was in a quote response to him. If I think you deserve neg rep points believe me I will issue them to you. If you want to retaliate so be it.

I have to admit though that I took a shot at Sams Rep points based on the ASSumption that he hit mine. That was uncool......I'm sorry for that....
 
Gecko_Den said:
I would prefer to continue reading to see how much bigger an ass you can show yourself to be.......

Looks like I may have just bought my first warning point, and it was worth it......
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Mod I'll take that point....even if it puts me at my first suspension.

No offense Joe, theres no doubt Bill is the bad guy on this thread, but youre becoming the bigger scumbag.
 
critical bill said:
Mod I'll take that point....even if it puts me at my first suspension.

No offense Joe, theres no doubt Bill is the bad guy on this thread, but youre becoming the bigger scumbag.
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Yea?.......how so?
 
Ophis said:
I just choose my wording based on what I percieve to be the truth. I'm not going to color it for anyone. If you think I called Wes a liar, your wrong. I have been around here for a little while and seen Wes in action. The last thing I would call him is a liar.
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Like I said, choose it a little better and maybe just maybe you would earn some respect on this thread for your thoughts instead of negativity towards your post and the way they are preceived by the reader.

Ophis said:
Who died and left you relevance and worth judge?
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Joe, some people are wondering the same thing about you.....

Ophis said:
I wasn't directing the comment at you. I was obviously directing it at Sam as it was in a quote response to him. If I think you deserve neg rep points believe me I will issue them to you. If you want to retaliate so be it.

I have to admit though that I took a shot at Sams Rep points based on the ASSumption that he hit mine. That was uncool......I'm sorry for that....
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I know you said that to Sam but it was a generalized statement of 'what comes around goes around'

Retaliation is not my thing Joe, but there are alot more post of yours lately that I do not agree with in the least bit and chose to ignore them, the thing with Wes was one I could not ignore.

As my signature says, Im not looking DOWN on you, just trying to help you up. Take it as you will!
 
I don't even know why I posted, or why anyone does. I am not expecting responses to my post, but it took like 4 minutes to get 2 pages of hair pulling , sissy slapping to make my post dissapear.
 
dragonflyreptiles said:
Like I said, choose it a little better and maybe just maybe you would earn some respect on this thread for your thoughts instead of negativity towards your post and the way they are preceived by the reader.



Joe, some people are wondering the same thing about you.....



I know you said that to Sam but it was a generalized statement of 'what comes around goes around'

Retaliation is not my thing Joe, but there are alot more post of yours lately that I do not agree with in the least bit and chose to ignore them, the thing with Wes was one I could not ignore.

As my signature says, Im not looking DOWN on you, just trying to help you up. Take it as you will!
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I will chose my words as I see fit. I called Bill Leverton (by his own admission and hard evidence a scammer) I voiced my opinion and defended as much to those who attacked me. I lump Bills actions in with all of the other scammers in the industry with one caviot. He is WORSE because of who he pretended to be. For those who have a problem with that or think I am repeating myself thats tough. I will respond as I see fit to my detractors.
 
DaveyFig said:
I don't even know why I posted, or why anyone does. I am not expecting responses to my post, but it took like 4 minutes to get 2 pages of hair pulling , sissy slapping to make my post dissapear.
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You have been right on the mark Davey. Some people just don't want to hear the truth.
 
Post count thus far in this thread:
Ophis 49
Clearwater_Reptiles 39
pch101 39
Jim O 18
dragonflyreptiles 17
critical bill 16
wilomn 16
The BoidSmith 15
Rebel Dragons 11
ben siegel 9
Lee Herps 7
DThomas 6
DAND 6
ReptileZone1 5
Greg Riso 5
Ghi Reptiles 4
Gecko_Den 4
KelliH 4
Neil Gubitz 4
shrap 4
Sasheena 4
ravensgait 4
devenomized 4
The Constrictor Zone 3
snakehorse 3
dutchoven 3
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM 3
daniel1983 3
romad119 2
DaveyFig 2
Cat_72 2
Dennis Hultman 2
justcage 2
PaulSage 2
mmeade 2
Casey Hulse 1
A_Kendergirl 1
lucille 1
Laura Cox 1
gregh 1
Hurley 1
Melle 1
Golden Gate Geckos 1
kmurphy 1
gila7150 1
Suncoast Herpetological 1
hhmoore 1
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Nuff said.
 
Ophis said:
I see a whole bunch of people running their mouths on this thread including you and your running it loudly at this point..
Who died and left you relevance and worth judge? I'm almost as pathetic as the scammers?.....man.....I wouldnt say that about you Sam....I couldn't stoop to that level. I don't even know you but keep typing, I want to know more.
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You're right, that was uncalled for. I apologize for saying you were as pathetic as the scammers.
 
Jim O said:
Post count thus far in this thread:Nuff said.
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Not really Jim. When someone posts the way you just did I will respond in kind therefore of course my post count will be higher.
 
Thanks Joe, that kind of served two purposes. You acknowledged that what I said was post-worthy, and by simply saying I was on the mark, I bet some will go back and read it now, just to see what you are agreeing with, lol
 
Ophis said:
Not really Jim. When someone posts the way you just did I will respond in kind therefore of course my post count will be higher.
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The way I just did? Splain me Lucy.
 
DaveyFig said:
Thanks Joe, that kind of served two purposes. You acknowledged that what I said was post-worthy, and by simply saying I was on the mark, I bet some will go back and read it now, just to see what you are agreeing with, lol
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Hell yes it was post worthy.....your unfortunatly playing second fiddle to gang up on Ophis day......hope this don't piss Jim off seeing as its going to raise my post count and all.
 
Ophis said:
Yea?.......how so?
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Oh Joe.....

You have been posting like a psychotic nutcase over and over again about Bill... and how much it bothers you that a few heavy hitters didn't show up to tear him apart.....how we all gave him a pass and went soft on him.

The moment Bill admitted he scammed Lee it was over for him. It was as if he threw himself and his his entire business in front of a speeding truck. It was over before we all knew it. He is finished in this business no matter how many will forgive him and call him friend again...maybe eventually someday. Now all I want to know through some civil questioning is why he did it. I don't care if Bills reason means nothing to you. I don't even care about you. If the day comes that you make it here under similar circumstances it will be about you.

So please allow me to find out. It appears Bill is waiting for the smoke to settle and with you grinding stones its not happening.
 
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