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Biodome/scorpian/leo/ plus extras

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I just finished my 90 gallon rivertank habitat "biodome" It houses my pet iguana, two firebelly newts, 3 leo geckos, two green anoles, 1 king scorpian, and my red tailed boa. Im growing plants from my garden and hope to put some exotic plants like venus fly traps in there soon. The right side contains a small homemade waterfall made of pvc pipes and it dumps into 6-7 inches waterhole which will house my future painted turtles. I at first didnt think that this would work but all the animals seem to be getting along just fine this week. My earth science teacher told me that it will earn me some extra credit.( boy did i need it) im trying to get my dad to let me borrow his digital so stay tuned for some pics coming soon.

P.S- Does anyone know of a good automatic watering system. im trying to make this thing a completely a self controlling and cleaning ecosystem...
thanks
 
Mike,
Is your earth science teacher a moron? You need to seperate those reptiles immediatly. No one in their right mind would give you extra credit for housing animals that should not be housed together. An iguana with Leos with a red tail and scropian?Did I read this all right? Where did you get the idea that this would be okay to do? Leo breeders argue among themselves that even housing African Fat Tail geckos with Leos is a bad thing....Unless this habitat somehow has each species seperated in its own habitat, I wouldnt advise posting pictures of it here. i don't think you'll get to many good jobs from this crew. If your Earth Science teacher wants to give you extra credit then create a habitat with species that CAN live together that have similar habitat needs such as different anoles or turtles....I give the animals in that habitat about two weeks before they start dying off due to the stress and introduction of possible foreign disease and parasites to one another.....You simply can't house different species of reptiles together no matter how big the habitat is unless they are compatible...these aren't a bunch of dogs that will all get along and play. You need to consider these animals welfare over your grade and tell you earth science teacher to get a clue...
 
It has to be a joke. I don't think anyone is idiotic enough to put all of these animals together. This is just getting out of hand.
 
he's a teacher. he obvisouly knows alot about science. all you guys are are people on forums. are any of you teachers. ? im not trying to be rude its just that i wasted alot of my allounce on these animals.
thanks
 
Mike, you shold have researched this first on your own. Please tell your teacher to come here and tell reputable, EXPERIENCED breeders why he thinks these species can be housed together.....
Just because he is an Earth Science teacher does not mean he knows the requirements of individual reptiles....I have a degree in Communications technology but that does not mean I can go work on a satelite...I doubt he ever had a specialized course in reptiles...everyone here has years of experience and alot of knowledge..these are the people to ask, not someone with a teaching degree. Like I said, please tell him about the flak you are, and will be getting for jeopardizing these creatures, and have him defend himself....we'll see just how "learned" of anEarth Science techer he is....
Please seperate those animals NOW before you lose them....
 
One other question, Mike it says you are 20? But you are talking about your teacher and getting an allowance(not a professor and paycheck)? How old are you really?
 
Being a teacher does not mean he knows ANYTHING about the care of the animals you claim you are keeping together. Yeah, we're people on forums...but many of us are college grads (or near grads) or have been keeping/breeding reptiles for years...some well over 10 years. These are people to be RESPECTED. The animals you are claiming to keep together WILL kill eachother! If not by direct attack or eating...from being introduced to foreign parasites/disease, or from stress being housed with foreign species, or from being in an improper environment (leopard geckos in a rivertank habitat???...). Did you take even 5 minutes to look up the care of ANY of these species?????
 
ive put my age that high so i would be taken serious unlike the other two forums that i get mocked on. i seriously want advice. please. i want this to work. it seems ok now. i dont understand why everyone thinks its not going to work. what is the difference in the acutaly world..
Also i come from an innercity school so maybe he doesnt have a great knowledge but i really want this to work . can someone please give me positive advice and stop telling me im an idiot.
 
It WON'T work...there is NOTHING you can do to make it work. These animals are from from different parts of the world...they would NEVER meet in the real world....if they did some of them would promptly eat eachother. I'm surprised the boa or the iggy haven't already eaten the leos... or the newts...which can have toxins that could kill the animal that ate them... This WON'T work...plain and simple.
 
you guys may be right but isnt that why animals are equiped with defence mechanisms such as the leos tail that falls off. the boa could take its tail but it will just grow another one. as for the other ones, wouldnt the toxins dissolve in the digestive juices..
 
One...no defense mechanism can protect an animal from diseases and parasites it's species has never seen before. Two...they shouldn't HAVE to use their defense mechanisms in captivity...that is cruelty. Three...sure, leos can drop their tails......but it won't help if they're bit on the head....and it won't help if they get a respiratory infection from too high a humidity level...and it won't help if they're stressed into starving themselves by being kept with potentially predatory species. Four......no, the toxins won't dissolve....that's why they're potentially deadly.
 
This really isn't a joke??
Doesn't this qualify as animal abuse??
I have been keeping reptiles for over 10 years now and I can't get past shaking my head and wondering at the sheer bull headedness of some of the new keepers out there that have been posting on this forum and a few others that I frequent
Their refusual to listen to and act on advice that is freely give to help THEM and THEIR animals is beyond my comprehension
Why on earth would someone even bother to come to a forum if they already know it all?
I just don't get it- I have asked questions on this and many forums and have had people take time out of their life to sit down and answer my questions and their answers have helped me immeasurably
I know that is frustrating as hell to me to take the time and write out an answer to a question only to have someone completely blow off the advice that I have offered and that I unfortunately have learned through making my own mistakes-after all-isn't what we are trying to do here to save someone else the heartbreak of making the same mistakes over and over again?
People that offer advice here or anywhere else are not doing it just to waste their time-they are trying to help out with problems drawing from their own experiences (I can't imagine the combined years just on this forum alone) and trying to help others make sure that the animals in question are kept in the best health possible
I guess that it just that time of year-right after Christmas-This seems to happen every year-unfortunately
:(
Sandy
 
Mercedez said:
I just finished my 90 gallon rivertank habitat "biodome" It houses my pet iguana, two firebelly newts, 3 leo geckos, two green anoles, 1 king scorpian, and my red tailed boa. Im growing plants from my garden and hope to put some exotic plants like venus fly traps in there soon. The right side contains a small homemade waterfall made of pvc pipes and it dumps into 6-7 inches waterhole which will house my future painted turtles. I at first didnt think that this would work but all the animals seem to be getting along just fine this week. My earth science teacher told me that it will earn me some extra credit.( boy did i need it) im trying to get my dad to let me borrow his digital so stay tuned for some pics coming soon.
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  • An adult iguana needs a much larger home than a 90 gallon aquarium.
  • An iguana needs a basking lamp which would over-heat / dry-out the newts.
  • Defense mechanisms weren't designed for co-habitants that an animal would normally encounter in the natural habitiat.
  • Green anoles can harbor parasites that could be transmitted to the leopard geckos.
  • Leopard geckos belong in a desert... not a river.
  • Painted turtles will bite/eat the newts eventually.
  • The red-tail boa may very well attempt to eat all of the lizards.
  • Garden plants, or any plants from outdoors could contain pesticides or herbicides toxic to any of the animals.
  • If they're not eating each other yet, it's probably because they're too stressed out to eat from being housed with the other species.
 
Mercedez said:
you guys may be right but isnt that why animals are equiped with defence mechanisms such as the leos tail that falls off. the boa could take its tail but it will just grow another one. as for the other ones, wouldnt the toxins dissolve in the digestive juices..
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Seriously Mike if you truely want help and not be treated like an idoit then think before posting.

1.) There is no reason to fake your age. We have members here that make it known they are young. There are three I can think of right off the top that are under 16. All are treated with respect by me and others here.
2.) When a leo loses its tail it is losing all the resources it has stored up. This is one the things that help it through hard times. It is VERY stressful to lose a tail. Which could lead to death.
3.) Leopard Geckos are an arid species the humdity level in that tank is enough to kill the gecko through bacteria infections. Which also will cause stress and possible death.
4.) I am not sure what the scropion species is you have but in the wild scropions are on the leo's diet.
5.) I don't think the toxins would be dissolved by the digestive juices before the toxins cause harm to the animals. Just think of it like this a small toad can kill a large dog at very least make it sick.
6.) WHY? You care for the animals you have spent your money on right? Then why risk them with careless practices.
 
These are not careless practices...these are HARMFUL practices... Careless practices could potentially cause harme.......these practices will inevitably cause harm. These animals simply can NOT all survive together. It is IMPOSSIBLE. And yes, I believe this would qualify as animal cruelty.
 
Mercedez said:
ive put my age that high so i would be taken serious unlike the other two forums that i get mocked on.
No one here is judged negatively because of their age. Your knowledge of the animals in your care and your willingness to listen to the advice you ask for is what we judge you on.

No one will want to help you if you refuse to listen to experienced owners and breeders


Mercedez said:
im not trying to be rude its just that i wasted alot of my allounce on these animals.
thanks
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If an animal is a waste of money to you, don't buy it. The fact that you said that and at the same time try to tell the posters here that they dont know as much about the animals they love and care for as some crappy earth science teacher disturbs me.
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