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donot use black knight spray........on or with the reptiles in the cage, tank, housing etc, it will kill your mites along with your reptiles, it also kills the ozone layer and i am sure we are all aware of that so please use wisely

i have edited this post the original was not intended to be a direct attack on Blackknight, i just wanted to put out the word on the risk of death if not used correctly


Thanks Tim
 
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We've used it for years and we have never had an animal die as a result of using Black Knight. Also, the Fort Worth Zoo has used it for many years with no adverse effects. Have you had animals die from it?
 
I had a rough green snake go into convulsions and die when I used it. Sprayed the enclosure and it killed my snake within 15 minutes. I now use Pro-Vent a Mite for any new arrivals.
 
I've used it for about a year now with no adverse affects. I do admit from time to time I think that it may be dangerous. I may start using Provent-A-Mite. I was just given a few bottles of Reptile Relief at the FIRE show. I know a few people who have had nothing but good things to say about it.
 
A *VERY* light spraying of black knight does the job, it would seem to me that those who had animals die from it used *WAY* too much!
 
Scott- I think so also. It only takes a couple of short "puff puffs" to do the job. Also, it is possible that some animals are more sensitive to the chemicals than others. I have always heard that rainbow boas are pretty sensitive and you have to be very careful when using products such as Black Knight or others on them and use them very sparingly.
 
"it also kills the ozone layer illegal and deadly for reptiles"

I guess I'm too tired this afternoon, but I have no earthly idea what that means. What evidence is there that the ozone layer is modified in any way by Black Knight? In what way is it illegal? Does the illegality refer to the supposed depletion of ozone, or to the supposed killing of reptiles?

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In what way is it illegal? Does the illegality refer to the supposed depletion of ozone, or to the supposed killing of reptiles?
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Darin,
I have not had enough coffee to really answer this, so bear with me as I will probably get it wrong!

I think the person making this claim might be saying that there are certain chemicals in the spray that contribute to the ozone's weakening or something like that....

I don't re-call anyone being prosecuted and or sent to Jail or fined for using Black Knight illegally, but... oh heck, I give up!

I don't know, sorry Darin. I should appologize for trying to answer this........... now to make a pot of coffee!
 
Well, here is a link for a site created by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln where Black Knight is listed as one of the recommended aerosols for roach control. If it were a product that contained anything illegal, I highly doubt a state-sponsored university would be advocating its use.

Also, there appears to be very little actual evidence (lots of supposition and lectern thumping, but no evidence) that humanity is doing ANYTHING AT ALL to cause detecable depletion of the ozone layer. For this individual to suggest that it is being damaged by people spraying their tanks with Black Knight borders on the absolute ludicrous!

A little bit of punctuation would have helped in my comprehension of what he was trying to say . . .but just barely. Oh, well!
 
it also kills the ozone layer illegal and deadly for reptiles.......
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Kills the ozone?

I didn't know it as alive!

Drown your reptiles in it and *YES* it would be deadly to your reptiles by overuse. Light *VERY* light application is all that is needed.

It seems this person killed their own reptiles from what I can read of the original wishy washy post!
 
I don't know about the effect that Black Knight has on the ozone, but I have used it before on pythons and have never had a problem. I used it very sparingly, and in a well ventilated area. I also did not directly cover the animal, but rather lightly misted their enclosures, let it air out, and then placed the just-soaked (in water!) animals into them. I left the windows open the rest of the day just in case and kept an eye on my charges, just in case. Worked like a charm.

Regards,

Lauren Rost
 
I used BK exactly how Pro Exotics explained it should be used. I took everything out of the enclosure but the snake and sprayed enough BK to "fog" the enclosure. Didn't directly spray the RGS but I sprayed enough to make it foggy in the enclosure. My RGS died right afterwards.
This is where Pro Exotics says to use the "fogging method".
http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ_answers_get_rid_of_mites.html
 
Then why the does Pro Exotics tell you to do that!!!!!!
They have BS info on their FAQ's pages!
 
Actually...

They don't.

They tell you to fog the enclosure with the animal removed...

The part where they detail spraying the animal, if you choose to, is lower down and is surrounded by warnings about how careful you need to be not to overdo it.
 
They tell you to fog the enclosure with the animal removed...
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Why anyone would leave the animal in is beyond me!

The part where they detail spraying the animal, if you choose to, is lower down and is surrounded by warnings about how careful you need to be not to overdo it.
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And unfortunately, over did it is what SPJ did. As well as leaving the animal in the enclosure is like putting it in a gas chamber.... end result, DEATH!
 
I think Steve made a completely innocent mistake, it's not as if he would do it deliberately and he certainly knows what he's doing with the animals...

It just stands as an excellent warning about being cautious whenever using any chemical substance anywhere near our animals, Steve is far from a new guy to the hobby and if he can slip and use a bit too much, anybody can.

I also agree with Kelli (I think it was Kelli) when she stated that certain species are far more sensitive than others, anything that tends to drink off it's own coils or from the sides of the tank (BRB, GTP, ATB, ETB, Candoia, etc), I would seek a different method of correcting the problem.
 
I think Steve made a completely innocent mistake, it's not as if he would do it deliberately and he certainly knows what he's doing with the animals...
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I'm not for one moment saying he did it on purpose, just stating it would be like a gas chamber effect on the animal to be locked in an enclosure with a fog of black knight in with it.

It's what you call unfortunate!
 
Hasn't anyone here used Nix to kill mites? We had a case of snake mites on our blue tongued skink and two treatments cleared it right up with no adverse effects to the animal.

I don't have a link handy, but go to TARAS (The Alberta Reptile and Amphib Society) website and find it under care sheets. It was written by Nathan Curtis, a man with extensive experience in large pythons and boas.

I found the treatment to be far safer and more effective than any commercial mite prep. We didn't even have to worry about other inverts in the same room.

Rash
 
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