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Inquiry boagirl from Napanoch NY

Selling a Boa! -> That was my wife! -> I'm 16 but I have a wife and live in NY bla bla -> Here is a video of my snakes! -> I have a permit, My mom (in NY?) is fedex certified! -> It isn't mine it is my Dads -> He's in Florida!

What in the heck. I am sorry but is that REALLY what just happened? I honestly hope you don't feel discouraged from the hobby and I am all for one willing to chalk this up to a rookie's mistake. Especially if you are 16 (as has been verified). I do think you need to educate yourself and be more transparent and honest in your dealings. I know you won't soon forget this little thread, but I hope you learn from it and not become disheartened. It is not easy being 16 and you still have so many years in which to learn and grow about the hobby and I hope you use this experience to better your future practices! :) I honestly do not think people would hold it against if you came back a few years from now (over 18 preferably, just for business transactions, it legally makes things easier, otherwise have your mother advertise so her name is on all the paperwork and it is legal!) and started getting into the hobby seriously and correctly. I wish you luck!
 
Excuse me? Yeah, please don't act like you know me. I am sick of you people using everything I do in my life against me. IM NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. Why is that so hard for you guys to believe?? The people on this site are ridiculous. Why can't you just leave me alone? I have done nothing but tell you people the truth. Why do you have to go and find everyway for it to be a lie? I can't stand it. It makes me extremely upset. Sorry people can't have ambitions. I seriously thought you people would be more accepting. All you've done is hurt my feelings and make me feel like crap about myself. I don't even want to be in this business anymore thanks to you people. I highly appreciate it. Just forget it. I have nothing more to prove to you. I have sent proof I am who I say I am, I have given you the names of all the people involved in what I was TRYING to do and you STILL don't believe me! Wow. I'm done. I was so excited to start this project. Thanks. Bye. I am done with this site and I won't be coming here again. Save myself the tears. Wow.
 
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That's how you act when somebody is being considerate towards you? Maybe you should get out of the hobby then, the reptile industry has a bad enough reputation without adding people like you to it. You'll grow up one day, maybe.
 
There's one thing to think about, people. She's what , 15? 16? Although there are plenty of teens who would not have dug a ginormous hole trying to cover themselves, there are plenty more who would and have done so, right here at Fauna. Like Sierra, they've all been exposed & chastised. Some learn, some don't.

We all pretty much know "Sienna" simply does not exist and Sierra did not ask "Sienna" to post the sale ads. We all know Sierra is not married. We all know the retic is most likely not dad's and the chance of dad and "Sienna" both having permits (or anyone in her family for that matter) is highly unlikely. Sierra did provide her ID and she did give the correct names of her parents. To our knowledge she did not scam anyone or rip anyone off.

She still has a chance to enjoy the hobby, LEARN and conduct business in a more mature, professional manner - it's her choice.

Continuing to pile it on is counter-productive, IMO.
 
LauraB said:
There's one thing to think about, people. She's what , 15? 16? Although there are plenty of teens who would not have dug a ginormous hole trying to cover themselves, there are plenty more who would and have done so, right here at Fauna. Like Sierra, they've all been exposed & chastised. Some learn, some don't.

We all pretty much know "Sienna" simply does not exist and Sierra did not ask "Sienna" to post the sale ads. We all know Sierra is not married. We all know the retic is most likely not dad's and the chance of dad and "Sienna" both having permits (or anyone in her family for that matter) is highly unlikely. Sierra did provide her ID and she did give the correct names of her parents. To our knowledge she did not scam anyone or rip anyone off.

She still has a chance to enjoy the hobby, LEARN and conduct business in a more mature, professional manner - it's her choice.

Continuing to pile it on is counter-productive, IMO.
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While I agree with much of that, her first step would need to be either proving the major points of contention, or to come clean and admit to being dishonest. I understand that the shattering of illusions can be a painful process, but it needs to be done before she can move forward. Some of us have tried to handle her with kid gloves, to explain to her exactly why credibility is so important in this venue, and generally try to coax her into being honest. She's chosen to fight that every step of the way. Until she chooses to discontinue with her apparent aversion to the truth, she's bringing all of this on herself.

But, as you've pointed out, as far as we know, there hasn't been any actual damage done. She still has a chance to at least try to salvage something from this. The ball's been in her court. The question is: How much effort is she willing to put into earning trust, after giving so many reasons to be distrusted?
 
One thing that strikes me as very strange is the ad for the retic for sale in FL, it says that he/she/whoever realizes they would prefer a Burmese Python, which from my understanding is still illegal to own in FL unless you already had one and were grandfathered in.
I'm not sure who the parents are, but it seems some people know, has anyone done any business with them? Just curious.
While I try to give people the benefit of the doubt in many situations, so much is not adding up here.

The reptile community is great if have good ethics and a good attitude, but I feel this with most communities. I'm also active in the equine community and it's no different there. Giving up and turning yourself into the victim does not make you seem more creditable, in fact it does the opposite. Except you may have made some mistakes, even if you have lied it would be better to just regroup and come back with a better attitude and better business ethics. If you have lied, take it as a lesson learned, if not than simply except how things could have sounded and work harder next time to make things more clear. Also once you have the Fedex certification and PayPal in your name that will help a great deal.
 
This was entertaining...Enjoy being a teen. You're not ready for this section of adulthood. Also, understand the laws in NY especially when it comes to boids. Good luck young lady.
 
Tiki108 said:
One thing that strikes me as very strange is the ad for the retic for sale in FL, it says that he/she/whoever realizes they would prefer a Burmese Python, which from my understanding is still illegal to own in FL unless you already had one and were grandfathered in.
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It is still possible to get a permit for a burm in FL. The requirements are quite strict, and permits are not issued for people who just want them as pets, but it is not impossible. So no, they are not illegal. Just heavily regulated.
 
This was a reply to Autumn Carver.
I dont know how to show the ad she has up in response to this little girl.

Should we not be adults ourselves and ignore the little girl? Dont you remember when you were 16? We knew everything then too.
Just a thought after seeing this little girl? get beat up by full grown men and woman.
Sorry,i have real feelings and even though she dug a dee deep hole,we should not act like her.
 
allreptiles1966 said:
This was a reply to Autumn Carver.
I dont know how to show the ad she has up in response to this little girl.

Should we not be adults ourselves and ignore the little girl? Dont you remember when you were 16? We knew everything then too.
Just a thought after seeing this little girl? get beat up by full grown men and woman.
Sorry,i have real feelings and even though she dug a dee deep hole,we should not act like her.
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Really? really?

She was playing typical forum attention whore games.

Look at me! I'm 16, Married, Gay, Then this, then that, whoops I lied, then Waaaaah I'm gonna cry about it.

I know if I acted like her when I was 16 my parents would have come down on me like a hammer.

Internet freaking drama is all it is.
 
I agree Rich, but I also understand how upset any age person can get when it comes to losing hard earned money. I like the fact that in this forum, things need to be kept PG.
 
allreptiles1966 said:
This was a reply to Autumn Carver.
I dont know how to show the ad she has up in response to this little girl.

Should we not be adults ourselves and ignore the little girl? Dont you remember when you were 16? We knew everything then too.
Just a thought after seeing this little girl? get beat up by full grown men and woman.
Sorry,i have real feelings and even though she dug a dee deep hole,we should not act like her.
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Ignore someone who's very likely lying through her teeth about many things? Hardly a rational argument to make when this is a forum designed in part to expose poor business practices. You can call her "little girl" and play the sentimental card all you like, but it doesn't do anything to change the fact that it was her own decisions that brought her to this position. At 16 we may not have been as smart as we're ever going to be, but coddling her still serves no purpose. If by 16 years old you don't know the difference between simple right and wrong, that's definitely something that needs to be corrected.

Also, there's a world of difference between calling someone an "attention whore" and just a "whore".
 
Let me define something, I did not call her a "whore" but an "attention whore." Big freaking difference.

Attention Whore: Label given to any person who craves attention to such an extent that they will do anything to receive it. The type of attention (negative or positive) does not matter.
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If this was my child, she would not be allowed to play such games on the forums. There was deceit, lies, back peddling and deflection.

She needs to walk away, spend a little time growing up, and getting her stories straight, then come back and try the hobby again.
 
I have to agree to many of the points,but she has been ripped apart and if she didnt get it in the first 10 pages,she's not gonna.It was put to her several ways and both nice and not so nice.
It is her fault,but most of us are adults and should be directing her or just leaving her to herself.
I personally think you should not be on here as a 16 y/o. Just my opinion.If we deal with minors we end up getting the worst of anything since we are the adults.
As stated before,legally we are not gonna get our money or animals back when entering a contract with a minor.

You are also right about her being on here acting like that.As a parent of 3,i too would not allow my kid to behave like this,and we haven't.

I am not sticking up for her at all,just looking at this as if she were my kid being ripped apart by adults.She screwed up for sure,no doubt.

Autumn,i appoloigize,i re read that and you are totally right.I should not have opened my mouth and spoke.I'm sorry if you'll accept it.

But lets remember,she is a KID and we should direct her more then chew her apart for 15 pages.
 
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