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Hey everyone at the BOI
I know this is a weird inquirey and im sure his animals and stuff are the best but i havent done any buisness with him
so i am going to make a inquiry
I just want to know how the animals u reseived from him were,whats his service like ect.
Thanks!! im sure ill get some good feedback. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
 
Recently I purchased a het sunglow from Bob. I was a little leary because he shipped it before it shed and had eaten, but he guaranteed that it would eat(and I knew Bobs guarantee was good as gold). Anyway, the boa shed about 2 days later and ate right away. It has since shown a fantastic feeding response and eats f/t with no problems. He is also a very nice looking hypo with great saddles and a long tail. I am very pleased! Casey
 
I bought two McLott's Pythons from Bob at a show in San Antonio. He was a pioneer in many of the morph species available today and I for one consider him superior in all areas to VPI which has the Herp Auction site. Check for a complete article on Bob in the June 2001 issue of Reptiles magazine, a Fancy Publication, entitled "The Man Behind the Morphs: Bob Clark Talks Pythons". I hope this will help you. J.R.
 
lol I dont mean to be rude but you must be new if you have to ask LOL, his stuff is top of the line, we have a columbian here form his line and she is by far one of the best I have ever seen, animals like his are what everyone strives for........
 
John,
  Besides having one of the best collections of Retics and Burms around his facility is immaculate ( which I have seen first hand ). Me and my partner have purchased several Albino Boas and Retics from Bob Clark and every one of them is flawless and doing great. Please feel free to call me personally with any other questions you may have 469-363-0635. I will not hesitate to any further business with Bob Clark.

Thanks,
Wyatt/Trager

D&B Reptiles
 
I wouldent call me "new" Ive been keeping snakes for 5 years,
Realy the meaning of this post is to see everyones experiences
with him here. I have heard only good about him
but nothing hurts,I just bought a Anerythistic boa
from someone at the reptile show and had it die on my
a week later
so i dont want this happenin again <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
Thanks for
everyones post's i am going to go ahead with my purchase <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
 
Hey John,
   I have done a lot of business with Bob Clark recently. He is top notch in every way. I saw his facility in person and he was happy to let me crawl around for a few days having fun and holding his snakes. He always goes the extra mile, is a great guy, and stands behind what he sells 100%. In April I purchased over 20 high dollar morphs and species. All are feeding exceptionally, are healthy and parasite-free. No complications whatsoever. I just put in another order for more stock and am expecting it tomorrow. I will buy from Bob for as long as he is in business. I would certainly recomend him to any herper who is serious about keeping only healthy reptiles. Even if they cost more,.. it's better to be trouble-free in my opinion. If any reader of this post has any questions, don't hessitate to contact me via email. I will glady answer any questions concerning Bob. [email protected]
                    Damon Andrews
 
Not only are his animals always healthy, they're some of the best looking stock you'll find.  Bob doesn't need money bad enough to sell a less than awesome animal.  He only works with the best stock.
 
Let me preface this reply by stating that this is not a flame, although it may appear that way.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I bought two McLott's Pythons from Bob at a show in San Antonio. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I believe you mean Macklot's python.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I for one consider him superior in all areas to VPI which has the Herp Auction site. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well, it appears then that you don't know that much about VPI. When it comes to pythons, Dave & Tracy's knowledge and quality are unsurpassed. Their extensive knowledge extends to both herpetoculture and academic herpetology.That is not to say that Bob's animals aren't high calibre as well or that he isn't extremely knowledgable. One thing that I can assure you of is that The Barkers are a bit more selective about their clientele. Retics & Nile crocs aren't sold to anyone with a fistful of dollars. Nor have they made a scene a the Arlington expo when informed that they could not sell Nile crocs (note- the Barkers do not sell Nile crocs. I am referring to the subject of the inquiry).

As for HerpAuction, the Barkers used to administrate the site. If you check the contact info for herpauction, you will note that it is being run from an address in Colombia, MO. The Barkers are in Boerne, TX. The demise of herpauction came well after the changing of the guard.

Back to the topic at hand... Boaguy, I'm sure that you won't be disappointed with either the quality of animals or the customer service that you receive from Bob. The only things that I can personally fault him for are the ethics of selling Nile crocs to anyone with $200 and the aforementioned outburst at the Arlington expo.  BTW, after five years, you're still "new"  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>. It's all relative though. <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
 
I do some of the same shows as Bob and it is a honor..He is the best..He does go the extra mile.. I have bought a male and a female ball python het for albino as babies last year and are truly satisfied..They eat, shed and s--t like clockwork..cn't wait to breed them <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>  I recomend buying all snakes from him.
 
I must agree with Ken Harbart regarding Bob Clark and his practice of selling Nile Crocs to anyone that has the $200 to pay for them. It is a foolish thing (IMO) to do and just goes to show that the almighty dollar has gotten a tight grip on him. I personally wouldn't buy anything he offers for sale because I don't agree with his "Anything to make a buck" attitude, my morals and ethics are quite different than his, and I am proud of that.

Kelli Hammack
 
I find it interesting that you can judge the morals and ethics of a person because they sell nile crocs.  Bob has the best reputation in the business.  He earned that reputation by selling quality animals and standing behind every animal sold.

I'm reading comments by people that are jealous of Bob. No more, no less.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I find it interesting that you can judge the morals and ethics of a person because they sell nile crocs. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Neither Kelli or myself are judging the morals and ethics of selling Nile crocs, per se. What we are criticizing is the ethics of selling of Nile crocs & retics to anyone off the street (including minors). What we are criticizing is the "making a quick buck" at the expense of an animal's welfare.

Answer a few questions for me Dale-
1) How many of those Nile crocs do you think actually survive more than a year, let alone to adulthood? Nile crocs don't last too long in an aquarium.
2)Where do you think the next introduced population pf Nile crocs will pop up? My bet is somewhere around the DFW metroplex.
3) When is it that a quick buck became more important than the animals themselves?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bob has the best reputation in the business.  He earned that reputation by selling quality animals and standing behind every animal sold.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No one's questioning the quality of Bob's animals or the satisfaction of his customers. What's being called into question is his unabashedly selling certain animals to people that are incapable of caring for them.

I'm curious Dale, does Bob's reputation also excuse his outburst at the Arlington expo?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm reading comments by people that are jealous of Bob. No more, no less.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's a pretty ignorant statement there Dale. Then again, I fully expected such pseudoreasoning to rear its head- rather than addressing the issue at hand, post an ad hominem attack. It's easier to falsely label someone as jealous than it is to admit that an "icon" has erred.

Neither the Hammacks nor myself have any reason to be jealous of Bob. On the contrary, I have the utmost respect for his accomplishments with python morphs. That respect however, is tempered by the ethics of pimping crocs & retics to those who are incapable of caring for them.

I make no apologies, Dale, for making the animals a higher priority than the almighty dollar.
 
Ken, I understand your position on the selling of nile crocs and retics, but I disagree with it.  Let me tell you why.

What's the difference between selling a nile croc and an american alligator?  Every point you made about nile crocs applies to alligators which are far more prevalent in the pet trade.  What's your position on alligators?

As far as retics go, what about burms, anacondas, rocks ?
All of these are large constrictors capable of killing.  
All of them can be as aggressive as retics.
What's your position on these other large constrictors?

What about NERD, Prehistoric Pets, etc,etc?  They sell retics ,and NERD also sells nile crocs. But you don't mention them. Why not?
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What we are criticizing is the "making a quick buck" at the expense of an animal's welfare.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Ken,

First off I would have to agree with you 100% on the crocs issue and animal welfare. But what do we leave then for the fate of hundreds of thousands of baby ball pythons and iguanas imported every year? Do they go to early retirement. Isn't the demand due to the fact that most of them die?

Regards,  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
 
Ken normally I agree with however this time I have to dissagree. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What we are criticizing is the ethics of selling of Nile crocs & retics </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>she said nothing of retics, your the only one who has said anything about them


as far as him selling nile crocs, he has just as much right to do it as you have to seel your animals and I have to sell mine</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That respect however, is tempered by the ethics of pimping crocs & retics to those who are incapable of caring for them.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> so you assume anyone who buys one cannot take care of it? I know of alot of people who have them and love those animals and do everything for them, I dont have any niles simply because of the size but I have caimans and I think they are the coolest thing under the sun, breeding caimans is my next breeding project, do I like the idea of niles being on the market NO but do I agree with banning them NO, we all knonw what happens once one gets banned, the gov feels like they got their foot in the door now they want all the way in,

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nile crocs & retics to anyone off the street (including minors)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> well I have to dissagree with ya there to because at the chicago show last oct I seen him refusing to sell to minors, I didnt set that show up, we were there both days and both days spent hours walking the show talking to everyone and seeing all the things I normally miss because I set them up, he refused selling a retic to one minor and talked a couple people out of the niles that he didnt feel right about, we probally spent 2 hrs or so at his table talking to him and his staff and checking out his animals

your a military guy I would think you would have a better apreciation for your rights in this country, owning a nile is one of them, if you dont agree with owning one thats fine but dont ? peoples ethics because they do, do I think they should be alowed in the pet trade No, do I think people should be able to ride their harleys without a helmet, no I think their idiots that have a death wish, do I think my neighbors should be allowed to own their dog NO!!!!!!!!!
but those are all rights given to us as americans, my whole point is this it doesnt make us wrong or mean we dont have ethics for taking advantage of them, only differant
 
Ken,
When you use a phrase like ..."That respect however, is tempered by the ethics of pimping crocs & retics to those who are incapable of caring for them. "

How is that not an attack on Bob?  Pimping?  You say I made an ignorant attack.  Does your attack on Bob qualify as ignorant?

I'm not attacking you here Ken, just asking if you apply the same standards to your own statements.
 
Im Just a little Curious Here... What makes you think you have the right to Judge Bob Clark or the people he sells Niles or Retics to?  Who are you to say that the people whom he sells to are not expirenced enough to own them? Did you interview each person whom purchased either a Nile or a Retic from Bob? If so then I would say that if the conclusion you have come to is from the facts, and not just your opinions then so be it. The truth here is that you are passing judgement on Bob Clark with out really knowing the facts of each individual case in question.
   I personally am a huge Fan, and a distant friend of Bobss and am kinda wonderring what makes you come to this conclusion of a man whom has not only proven himself over the years as a top notch breeder, but as one hell of a man as well?
  I personally wouldnt purchase reptiles from anyone BUT Bob Clark. His stock is world Known, his ethics are very practicle, and he personally is one hell of a nice guy. You get your animals when he says you will, they arrive alive, and they are the best damn looking animals I have seen to date.
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's the difference between selling a nile croc and an american alligator? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
None whatsoever, as far as the ehtics of it are concerned. Neither is particularly well-suited for the pet trade. Not many people have the means to care for subadult and adult crocodilians.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As far as retics go, what about burms, anacondas, rocks ?
All of these are large constrictors capable of killing.  
All of them can be as aggressive as retics.
What's your position on these other large constrictors?
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They are some of the more common "throw-away" pet snakes. Like crocodilians, they are often purchased by those who haven't the means to care for an adult.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What about NERD, Prehistoric Pets, etc,etc?  They sell retics ,and NERD also sells nile crocs. But you don't mention them. Why not?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Simply because they were not the topic at hand. I'm equally critical of Kevin for selling Niles. Prehistoric Pets..well, they're a whole other can of worms, judging from a few other threads on this site  <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> .
 
I do not think that any one or two people should be able to dictate what they feel is appropriate with regards to keeping tropical animals. I am certainly not saying that anyone here is trying to dictate, only that everyone is entitled to enjoy this hobby to what ever extent they want. Some voiced opinions can serve as fuel to excite people to the point where they try to ban private ownership of some types of herps, even if they themselves enjoy this hobby. I have seen things happen to sportsman, where one group thinks that a certain firearm should be banned or legalized and it just divides the people that should stay united.
 
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