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Bobby Pruett "Possible Law Suit"

Bobby Pruett

Linda:
Thanks for your helpful advise.When something like this happens you learn a lot! I will be very careful in the future and take all new snakes to the vet! I will never again make a deal this big without being able to see it first and get it in person.Thanks again Linda for your thoughts and comments.

Randy Bush
 
The way I see this, is that after reading ALL the posts and seeing what WAS said and what WASN'T said....
When Randy first got the snake in, he doesn't know that snake!.... Bobby, YOU knew that snake!.... You NEVER ONCE said anything when Randy said it was "star-gazing" and flopping his head around.... If it wasn't TRUE, you would have raised hell over that comment!.... which tells me that YOU KNEW THE SNAKE HAD BEEN DOING THIS IN THE PAST!.... That is DECEPTION, pure and simple!.... How is Randy supposed to "KNOW" the snake's habits after one or two days???.... It took him 11 days to figure out that there IS something wrong.... but, the FACT is, that Bobby, YOU KNEW IT ALL THE TIME, and you were probably very relieved when you were able to get that Snow off your hands.... thereby making it someone else's problem to deal with.... that's despicable!!.... YOU OWE HIM HIS MONEY OR ANIMALS BACK!.... If this were ME???.... on a 10K animal.... you could bet your bottom dollar that this would end up in court....
Your reputation, Bobby, is circling the bowl as we speak.... DO THE RIGHT THING and stop trying to play all of us for fools!.... We know EXACTLY what's up!.... Well, at least I DO!!

....Neil
 
Neil Gubitz said:
The way I see this, is that after reading ALL the posts and seeing what WAS said and what WASN'T said....
When Randy first got the snake in, he doesn't know that snake!.... Bobby, YOU knew that snake!.... You NEVER ONCE said anything when Randy said it was "star-gazing" and flopping his head around.... If it wasn't TRUE, you would have raised hell over that comment!.... which tells me that YOU KNEW THE SNAKE HAD BEEN DOING THIS IN THE PAST!.... That is DECEPTION, pure and simple!.... How is Randy supposed to "KNOW" the snake's habits after one or two days???.... It took him 11 days to figure out that there IS something wrong.... but, the FACT is, that Bobby, YOU KNEW IT ALL THE TIME, and you were probably very relieved when you were able to get that Snow off your hands.... thereby making it someone else's problem to deal with.... that's despicable!!.... YOU OWE HIM HIS MONEY OR ANIMALS BACK!.... If this were ME???.... on a 10K animal.... you could bet your bottom dollar that this would end up in court....
Your reputation, Bobby, is circling the bowl as we speak.... DO THE RIGHT THING and stop trying to play all of us for fools!.... We know EXACTLY what's up!.... Well, at least I DO!!

....Neil
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You need to learn to read Neil..Here it is again for you.
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Originally posted by randy6679
When I first got the snake he did cruise around the cage for about 24 hrs but his locomotion sucked he was running into the walls and appeared to be "stargazing"..I guess I was being optamistic and trying to give Bobby the benefit of the doubt.I did not want to immediately call someone that I thought was a reputable breeder and make alligations.I am at the fire station today for 24 hrs and I have been on the phone with my wife constantly.She is trying to get a vet to check him out today.My question to BOBBY PRUETT....If I get documented proof of genetic defects will you give my animals back? That's the bottom line.Thanks,,

Randy Bush
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On a 10k deal you have got to be crazy. Stargazing? First I heard that one. Running into walls? Another first. Im sorry but you cant expect me to believe this is the way the snow acted for those for the first days you got it and never bothered to tell me about it. Now that you've had the snake in your house for the last 16days you want a refund. After 16 days anything could have happened. I never even got a negative email from you till the 11th of Feb. Thats when I found out about you trading me snakes from Cagle and having snakes from Cagle in your collection. Thats when I told you no deal because of his past history right here on the BOI.


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The deal went south when Cagles name popped up. Do a simple search like I did and you will find those terms used in his thread. Thats the reason I am having the ones here tested and Im not taking the snow back. Try again Neil, your slippin. You seem to have a personal problem with me Neil by the way I read your post.
 
Bobby Pruett

Bobby:
The snake is going to the vet.Once again,if it is verified that the snow has a chronic disease or genetic defect will you give me my animals back? The bottom line is that the boa you traded me was mis-represented.You said"it is thin from breeding and that's it"....I was never told the snake had scale fungus,I was never told the snake had bad eyes,I was never told he has poor tongue flick,I was never told he has poor muscle tone,I was never told he had neurologic problems with his movements.Oh yeah,you told me over the phone the other day that "when you first got him you took him out of the bag and he flopped around like a fish"Bobby,admit it ,you told me this and you had him checked out at a vet and the vet told you it was an inherited genetic fault.I was told this by YOU in the same conversation as the one where you promised to send my animals back to me.It's a win win situation.Just give me my animals back and you get your snow back that you said you so badly wanted.Please respond appropiately to only what I have asked please.

Randy Bush
 
Bobby Pruett,
Your terms say, "All animals are guaranteed to arrive alive and outwardly healthy."

In the first email from Randy he states the animal is "pretty poor" then adds he has males that are also "slim". So to me that says, "the animal doesn't look too good, but he's giving you the benefit of the doubt."

The snake wasn't "outwardly healthy". Pretty cut and dry. You should try to work things out with Randy. Just keep an open mind and when the vet report comes back make a descision.

By the way am I the only one that thinks that in the pictures of the Snow Boa male the eyes look "funky?"
 
Linda Demadura said:
Bobby Pruett,
Your terms say, "All animals are guaranteed to arrive alive and outwardly healthy."

In the first email from Randy he states the animal is "pretty poor" then adds he has males that are also "slim". So to me that says, "the animal doesn't look too good, but he's giving you the benefit of the doubt."

The snake wasn't "outwardly healthy". Pretty cut and dry. You should try to work things out with Randy. Just keep an open mind and when the vet report comes back make a descision.

By the way am I the only one that thinks that in the pictures of the Snow Boa male the eyes look "funky?"
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Well, I guess if he would have put it back in the box and sent it back there wouldnt be a problem now would they? Nice way to pick apart that post.Why dont you post all of it? We are talking about a trade that happened on the 4th and today is the 18th.
 
Get real

I have posted his emails from the day he got the snow till 8 day later. I have some that were sent on the 17th saying how nice of a guy and he would recomend me to anyone and buy other snakes from me. Today I get this. The facts of this trade has been posted and I have backed up what I have said with his own emails.

Ive answered every question worth while.

I have stated why I will no longer deal with him.

Im right here and im not hiding or changing my story.

After 15 days of the snow being at his house Im done with the deal.
 
Mike I paid for shipping of a dead snake plus then paid 50 bucks in gas to get the replacement how do you see that as getting a free replacement ? if I got my 50 bucks back for gas then I would see it as a free replacement .

and if Bobby is showing you his terms pg. in his last few posts then I am sure he has just revised his terms pg. to fit his needs.

And if some of you are wondering why i am out to disclaim Bobby it is because not that he replaced my snake after me not being happy and with a cost for replacement , it is because he has turned every story around and has lied about every bit of our deal to make me look like the bad guy. I take things like that to the fullest.
 
Re: Bobby Pruett

randy6679 said:
Bobby:
The snake is going to the vet.Once again,if it is verified that the snow has a chronic disease or genetic defect will you give me my animals back? The bottom line is that the boa you traded me was mis-represented.You said"it is thin from breeding and that's it"....I was never told the snake had scale fungus,I was never told the snake had bad eyes,I was never told he has poor tongue flick,I was never told he has poor muscle tone,I was never told he had neurologic problems with his movements.Oh yeah,you told me over the phone the other day that "when you first got him you took him out of the bag and he flopped around like a fish"Bobby,admit it ,you told me this and you had him checked out at a vet and the vet told you it was an inherited genetic fault.I was told this by YOU in the same conversation as the one where you promised to send my animals back to me.It's a win win situation.Just give me my animals back and you get your snow back that you said you so badly wanted.Please respond appropiately to only what I have asked please.

Randy Bush
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How many times are you going to change your story Randy? Now its flopping around like a fish and also has fungus growing on it??? Why dont you admit it? Post the emails and file your claim. I am ready to go to court with you over this and I for one will enjoy evey minute of it.
 
Bobby Pruett,
So does the mean you can't or won't keep an "open mind" about this transaction?
You know if I wanted to pick apart a post I could do a really good job of it.

For instance.
I asked, "Does the snake have a genetic defect of any kind or do you suspect him of have a genetic defect of any kind??".
I don't want to hear that it goes along with any morph. I'd like to know if there's a possibility that if the Snow Boa in question has a genetic defect of any kind?

Your reply was, "No this animal did not suffer from a defect. The eyes and lite came into it when randy said he shined a flashlite in its eyes and it reacted but the eyes didnt. I said to him albinos and snows are lite sensative. Why dont some of you ask Randy why hes not posting the emails on this? I posted the first one on the 4th and my final say on this deal on the 17th.

Now to "pick this post apart" I would reply,................
You say it did not "suffer" from a defect. Well, just because a snake has a defect doesn't mean it's "suffering". At which point I would ask again, "DID THIS SNAKE HAVE A DEFECT THAT YOU KNOW OF??"
You see what I'm talking about. Now you don't have to answer the question again I was just giving an example.

I'm just saying he gave you "the benefit of the doubt" when the snake arrived "in less than perfect condition", so why can you keep an open mind and give him "the benefit of the doubt" and wait until after he has a vet report. I realize you have your reasons for not wanting the snake back at this point, but if there's something wrong with a 10,000 snake and it's not Randy's fault he deserves to be treated fairly. Anyway try to keep an open mind.
 
Bobby
You go spend ten grand on a diamond ring , but lo and behold a year later you find out you got a cubic zirconia, betcha want your money back. And betcha try and get it.
Granted its over a week, but this was a high dollar deal
do the right thing .
The snake was not represented totally honestly
On another note Neil reads quite well and man can he spell
 
jim scharphorn said:
Mike I paid for shipping of a dead snake plus then paid 50 bucks in gas to get the replacement how do you see that as getting a free replacement ? if I got my 50 bucks back for gas then I would see it as a free replacement .

and if Bobby is showing you his terms pg. in his last few posts then I am sure he has just revised his terms pg. to fit his needs.

And if some of you are wondering why i am out to disclaim Bobby it is because not that he replaced my snake after me not being happy and with a cost for replacement , it is because he has turned every story around and has lied about every bit of our deal to make me look like the bad guy. I take things like that to the fullest.
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Jim

You posted your link. The only thing that is different here then on Corallus is I cant use all the bad words. You are a real peice of work. YOU wouldnt wait for me to meet with the other breeder and just had to drive down yourself and pick up the snake. Plain and simple. For what you did and how you did it you was the bad guy in that thread, face it. The truth still hurts huh Jim...
 
John Apple said:
Bobby
You go spend ten grand on a diamond ring , but lo and behold a year later you find out you got a cubic zirconia, betcha want your money back. And betcha try and get it.
Granted its over a week, but this was a high dollar deal
do the right thing .
The snake was not represented totally honestly
On another note Neil reads quite well and man can he spell
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The mighty Apple has spoken LOL. You have been a joke on the BOI since it started. I am doing the right thing. Thats why im here. on another note if Neil cant read what was posted just a couple post back and come out with his BS then yes he needs to learn to read. BTW a week is 7 days and he was happy on that day and the next :)
 
Bobby Pruett

Bobby and Everyone:

My wife just called me from the vet's office.It is in Vestavia Alabama and the doctors name is Dr.Kris Mahaffey. She did a complete eye exam on the snow boa and she states that the retina has adhered to the cornia.In other words she stated the snake is "blind".She stated he had a "severe" respiratory infection and that he is severely dehydrated.She states the most important thing right now is to hydrate the animal so that it can be tested further.She states this is one of the poorest looking snakes she has ever seen and she is a reptile vet.She recommends flagyl and fluids to rehydrate the animal right now.Once it is up to par they will do further testing.It cost me $102.81 for the vet visit.She told my wife that she will type up an official report tonight and put it in the mail tomorrow.Anyone that wants a copy please e-mail me your address and I will be glad to mail you a copy.As soon as I get the official report I will post it.And Bobby,don't worry,I will mail you the first copy.As you can see the snake was mis-represented and this is just the tip of the ice-burg with testing on this poor animal.Bobby,will you now return my animals to me? I promise you will get the first copy of the vet report.Thanks to everyone for your support.

Randy Bush
 
Here we go again!!!

the other guy said he didn't like Pruett but had never done business with him. It just sounded like one breeder trying to run another down.
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I am the 'other guy'. And I do not like Pruett. But get your facts straight, Mike. I am not a breeder.

Go back and re-read that thread on the other board VERY carefully. I was called everything but white by Pruett and his 'groupies'. They were so convinced that I was a liar. Pay close attention, where in that thread, the truth finally came out. Two people, among several that had contacted me, spoke up and verified my story. Also, pay close attention to how my family as well as myself were attacked by Pruett. Furthermore, pay close attention, how when my side was verified, Pruett and his 'groupies' had no ground to stand on. And all those who were quick to slam me, basically shut the he!! up. Even furthermore, pay attention to one of his last posts in that thread, where he stated that he started this fight with me. I have every post in that thread saved, and if it is deleted, I will post each and every one in their entirity.

I can go quite further on this one. But I will not. I have already went my rounds with Pruett. I don't feel the need to do it again in a public forum. He has stopped attacking me, I have stopped attacking him.

If Pruett or his 'groupies' want to attack me, I will respond in kind.

However, one thing about this thread has truly amazed me. Which is that Pruett has responded to Randy like he did to me.

Enough said for the time being.
 
snow boa

I think that people are overlooking some very key points here. Bobby was very willing to do the trade when Randy first brought the topic up, actually he was rather excited. The snow had been bred to two females while in Bobby's possesion. One a regular boa owned by him and the other a hypo owned by myself. Bobby made the decision to sell the snow since we had the hypo DH for snow babies on the way and these were the focus of the project we were working on. Unfortanetly, four days after he sold the snow the hypo died from my thermostat malfunctioning. So, Bobby wanted to make this deal as much as Randy did. However, it came to light that some of the amarili involved in the deal came from Bill Cagle. Knowing the past history that goes along with Bill's name Bobby stopped the deal. Randy was not completly honest about the origin of those animals and the truth did not come out until Bill backed out on a purchase from Bobby. Otherwise it probably would not have. Why should Bobby put his collection at risk anymore than it already is. I am familiar with the snow boa in question and never once saw anything resembling a fungal infection. The boa does seem to be light sensitive. Randy was told this. It also ate and was a very strong breeder. A far cry from the condition that Randy is describing. This tells me that Randy is either overly nervous and exagerating it's condition or the animal has gone way down hill since I last saw it. As stated by Tom Burns this is very common with albinism and is almost guaranteed in albino humans. If anybody thinks that they are going to create an animal such as a snow that is the product of two morphs and not get any other defects you are mistaken. Albinism or any other morph is a genetic defect in itself. There are other genes that are mutated as well and are passed along. Any "chronic genetic defect" that this animal has is not in this animal alone but most if not all of the original snow boas which this one is. The snow boa is not made up of a broad gene pool and can be easily traced back to a couple animals. Does this animal have a genetic defect? Yeah, that is what made it white.
 
Bobby see's things one way, his way or the highway

He claims it was my fault and I chose to drive to his house instead of meeting him and Noe. Well what diffrence did it make I still had to drive 4 to5 hours no matter witch way i went, the fact is that I had to do the drive not the other way around. flat out.
 
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