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Inquiry Bpman850 Steven Miller *canceled payments for Bearded Dragon*

Really man your going that low. I doubt you care for anything but yourself.
And someone like you, how would they belive in god, When your scamming everyone. the only one you should pray for is the dragon. All you are and ever be is a scammer. My offer was a fair deal,since you kept calling me about how to care for him. I told you to get a book, but you probably didn't and thats the most important part of owning a dragon
 
You guys should knock off the personal attacks. It's not what the BOI is for. If the situation is resolved (i.e. money has been recieved and the dragon is doing fine), that should be the end of it.
 
I'm having trouble keeping up with this thread. You did sell the dragon correct? If so, why do you keep referring to it as "my dragon" in almost every post? Once you accepted money and shipped him, he is no longer your animal. That's why it's important to screen who you sell your animals too. I think Seller's Remorse is much worse than buyer's.

If he is returning it, why aren't you offering him a full refund instead of keeping half the money and the dragon? I can understand shipping costs if the dragon is healthy but to keep the part of the purchase price too? Maybe I completely misread or misunderstood the post...

That doesn't let the buyer off the hook for his conman PayPal practice. You still haven't received the promised money order correct? Why aren't you addressing this Steven Miller? You were silent about your outright theft but feel the need now to defend yourself about animal husbandry? Why don't you start at the top of the thread and explain the paypal chargeback and why you aren't an attempted thief and a scammer.
 
Jabberwocky Dragons said:
I'm having trouble keeping up with this thread. You did sell the dragon correct? If so, why do you keep referring to it as "my dragon" in almost every post? Once you accepted money and shipped him, he is no longer your animal. That's why it's important to screen who you sell your animals too. I think Seller's Remorse is much worse than buyer's.

If he is returning it, why aren't you offering him a full refund instead of keeping half the money and the dragon? I can understand shipping costs if the dragon is healthy but to keep the part of the purchase price too? Maybe I completely misread or misunderstood the post...

That doesn't let the buyer off the hook for his conman PayPal practice. You still haven't received the promised money order correct? Why aren't you addressing this Steven Miller? You were silent about your outright theft but
feel the need now to defend yourself about animal husbandry? Why don't you
start at the top of the thread and explain the paypal chargeback and why you
aren't an attempted thief and a scammer.
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He doe's have a point,....but he clains dragon is doing well.....Also dragon was paid for,
He was claiming the dragon wouldn't eat, and also gave him improper lighting for the size of the tank, The half of the payment was for giving a lot of my time explaining, and baby steping him through dragon care. But he has now claimed on keeping the dragon. So the dragon is full Stevens responsibility
 
ShadowAceD said:
You guys should knock off the personal attacks. It's not what the BOI is for. If the situation is resolved (i.e. money has been recieved and the dragon is doing fine), that should be the end of it.
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I agree. Steven, you should make efforts to clean up your business rep in the future, who would do business with you after reading the kind of stuff you have been accused of?


bpman850 said:
I really don't wanna send him back. I am just tried of you bltching on what I do wrong. I have done everything right. And you lied to me when i firsted called you I asked you if he eats crickets good and you said he loves his crickets. Then after i get the dragon And he does not eat. You tell me he only eats very lil crickets and he likes super worms. So case is not close. I Keep him.. If he dies I want my money back or other dragon. And you have ask me over and over to get him back either for free or full refund or half refund. If you want him back so bad send me 220 in a check or a money order or a cashiers check. So we both are coved
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I'm not sure what is going on here. If you really like the critter you can learn how to take care of a dragon, it is not rocket science. Take your critter to the vet if you have qualms about his health, then read a lot and provide him with a good home.

As far as the b****ing, whey are you listening? If the money situation is finally straightened out, the two of you do not have to communicate. There is tons of dragon info on the net plus advice from your vet.
 
Draco11 said:
The half of the payment was for giving a lot of my time explaining, and baby steping him through dragon care.
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I suspect that many of us have spent more time explaining and baby stepping people that don't even bother to make a purchase...and you think it entitles you to keep 50% of the original price when you're the one stomping your feet about getting the thing back?
YCMTSU :shrug01:
 
Steven why did you try to stop the Paypal payment and how about that money order?

Sonia I wish that we would get paid for all the time we spend helping our customers with there Dragon Care and setups we would make more helping then selling. Unfortunately there will always be that nightmare customer to deal with. Good Luck
 
I agree with what Brian has stated and ....

Draco11 said:
The half of the payment was for giving a lot of my time explaining, and baby steping him through dragon care.
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I do not understand this at all.
I am always available to help out any of my customers (with info, advice, etc.) and would never dream of charging them for my time.

Regardless, you cannot charge him, for your time helping him, as you did not have a prior agreement/contract (be it written or verbal) for this (you would lose if this were in a court case).

Of course, like Brian, am not overlooking the initial reason for this thread.
To attempt to retrieve money paid, for an item received in good condition, is inexcusable (something a scam artist would attempt).
 
Ya no one has the right to recieve money back for explaining dragon care! We have all done it, and i am sure in the begining you had questions too. You should be thankfull he is asking questions, that means he is trying and is learning. No one will excuse Stevens past behavior. But if i wher you i would let it go because you are going to far and making yourself look like the bad guy now!! Payment was recieved this dragon is no longer yours. Like was said screen the people you sell your animals to, its a little late for sellers remorse!!
 
Ok, I may have overstepd my bounds. I'm still new at this and got a little over reacted when he was :censored:. As i Said before, I have gotten payment from PP. So the responsibility of the dragon is his. I helped Him with, Husbandry only, for Steven to say that his Vet said I'm doing it wrong. I have a vet here that takes care of my Bearded's she know's my lighting is all in order. but beside the fact, the half payment was also for the cancelation and the lying of any MO sent if PP didn't go through.I am new to this, So have to learn as I go. Steven says he's keeping the dragon so, it's his. Also as said before I got paid. And no other money will be exchanged.
The conversation on husbandry was what he called me on the phone for. And I gave him all the information I could, even referenced some books. I tried to do what I could to make the buyer happy. And will probably write out care sheets to be put with the beardies in the future.
 
Also gave him the links to where to buy proper lighting equipment; In the heat of the moment I complained b/c of the hours of how to care for the dragon. I had no problem when I was explaining it to him, for the sake of the dragon.

Don't try to turn this against me, I was already punished by the board for improper language. Which was deserved given, what was said. And if you still think bad of me then thats how you feel. I was just trying to make well for the dragon.
 
Anyone thats interested, I'm sending 200 overnight to Steven so He can send the dragon back to me. My main concern is for the dragon, and his wellbeing.
 
Draco11 said:
Anyone thats interested, I'm sending 200 overnight to Steven so He can send the dragon back to me. My main concern is for the dragon, and his wellbeing.
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Is this what he wants? He may (and does) have his failings, but he can learn how to take care of this dragon.
 
Draco11 said:
Anyone thats interested, I'm sending 200 overnight to Steven so He can send the dragon back to me. My main concern is for the dragon, and his wellbeing.
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With all due respect, it isn't your dragon anymore....you can't insist that he send it back. Sending him money was probably not the brightest move, especially given the reason this thread started - hopefully you won't regret that decision.
 
It was decided on him and a friend of his (bearded dragon breeder) is going to make sure he's going to be definately sent out. I went on his website and he is legite
 
Also I called the bearded dragon breeder who is going to supply him the shipping supplies and he definately says he will be sent out, I didn't say my dragon I said the dragon, not claiming he's mine yet
 
Draco11 said:
It was decided on him and a friend of his (bearded dragon breeder) is going to make sure he's going to be definately sent out. I went on his website and he is legite
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Can you say that again in more understandable terms? Did he tell you that is what he is going to do?
If what he wants is to keep the critter, then he should do so. It is his.
 
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